1. modifier's Avatar
    Doug, please elaborate. Is it because they can force you to open your phone if they know it's by facial recognition, but you can 'forget' a PIN number?
    The short answer is that the 5th Amendment protects you from self-incrimination, allowing you to withhold PIN or password info. Physical features are not consider intellectual property and aren't secured by your cognizant and conscious willpower. Instead, they can be used against you even if unwilling or unconscious.

    This is why most corporate security policies don't allow lock features that can be used outside of conscious will. That pretty much limits locking to PIN, password or (in certain cases) complex and irregular pattern matching like BlackBerry Picture Password. Swipe, fingerprint, iris and facial recognition are all off the list.
    09-18-2017 03:56 PM
  2. 103Softail's Avatar
    I don't believe Apple do things better. It's all a matter of preference. They do things to make money. Now that they added wireless charging, you can bet they will come out with a proprietary version. It's that greed I do not like about this company.
    Er sorry....but Samsung has overtaken apple in the profit stakes. And what, if you or I sell an old phone or a car, we're not going to hold out for as much as we can get??? Enjoy capitalism
    09-18-2017 04:28 PM
  3. chanchan05's Avatar
    Er sorry....but Samsung has overtaken apple in the profit stakes. And what, if you or I sell an old phone or a car, we're not going to hold out for as much as we can get??? Enjoy capitalism
    Samsung overtook Apple by selling to the lower ends of the market. Not exactly due to flagships.
    09-18-2017 05:52 PM
  4. onestepcloser's Avatar
    I really can't understand why everyone is so obsessed with apples new phone...
    09-19-2017 06:11 AM
  5. Ten Four's Avatar
    I really can't understand why everyone is so obsessed with apples new phone..
    ^^This^^ It replaces religion for a lot of people. I have a feeling nobody has ever thought on their deathbed, "I wish I had that new iPhone." Purchase a phone that helps you do what you want to in life, iPhone or otherwise, and view it as a tool to achieve your goals. Don't worship the device.
    09-19-2017 05:31 PM
  6. callihan_44's Avatar
    I downloaded the new os to my iphone and it's meh....that was one thing I wanted to experience before thinking about buying an expensive phone...if the camera blows everything else away maybe...
    09-20-2017 07:01 PM
  7. phelme's Avatar
    hmm, DXOMark is extremely happy with the iPhone 8 Plus' camera:

    https://www.dxomark.com/apple-iphone...a-ever-tested/
    Today 03:04 PM
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