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  1. pappy53's Avatar
    How people spend their money is their business. Most people have really turned against them so if they go out of business because of this all the better. Good article here.
    Most people have turned against them? Now, that's a stretch, lol.
    07-05-2013 09:08 PM
  2. AngelArs's Avatar
    the political decisions made by companies should have repercussions to people of conscience when they're voting with their dollars for how companies should behave, etc.
    And like wise shouldn't they be rewarded for doing good? I'm pretty sure Ford's had a few CEO changes since WWII. I'm guessing around 11 of them. LOL...
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    07-05-2013 09:08 PM
  3. GadgetGator's Avatar
    And boycotts on either side are ridiculous. The only thing that I think should be boycotted is Obummer. Maybe he would go away if boycotted.
    So you think I should keep blissfully spending money at a restaurant knowing that the dollars I spend there are going to be used against me later on? Now why would I do that?
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    07-05-2013 09:09 PM
  4. AngelArs's Avatar
    Most people have turned against them? Now, that's a stretch
    07-05-2013 09:10 PM
  5. Aquila's Avatar
    And like wise shouldn't they be rewarded for doing good? I'm pretty sure Ford's had a few CEO changes since WWII. I'm guessing around 11 of them. LOL...
    Sure, but other companies have had an opportunity to build brand loyalty in the interim as well. The whole equation is dynamic, and digging out of a hole and building trust are hard. If while boycotting Chic-Fil-A you realize you really love Karl's Deli, even if Chic-Fil-A turns around, would you immediately quit Karl's? Stopping bad behavior isn't enough to get me to leave my new squeeze
    07-05-2013 09:13 PM
  6. pappy53's Avatar
    That article is a year old. Change your wording from "most" to "some", and you will be correct.
    07-05-2013 09:17 PM
  7. Aquila's Avatar
    How people spend their money is their business. Most people have really turned against them so if they go out of business because of this all the better. Good article here.
    Love that first comment: "the moral of this story, if you wanna preach to people, open a church, if you wanna sell people chicken, don't preach to them."
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    07-05-2013 09:19 PM
  8. Jennifer Stough's Avatar
    I think if anyone should boycott any store it should be abercrombie who stated that the reason why they didn't carry over size 11 is because their target market is the "cool kids." But of course, thats only my opinion.

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    07-05-2013 09:40 PM
  9. pappy53's Avatar
    I think if anyone should boycott any store it should be abercrombie who stated that the reason why they didn't carry over size 11 is because their target market is the "cool kids." But of course, thats only my opinion.

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    +1
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    07-05-2013 09:44 PM
  10. badbrad17's Avatar
    Don't even get me started on the Salvation Army. They have been very selective whom they help and definitely have had some anti-gay issues
    They're allowed to be selective. Lots of charities are selective. They do not omit people for being gay. Sheesh. What a load of rubbish. The Salvation Army has dedicated itself to helping people and we should be thankful for what they do. There are many charities that just help black people and many other exclusive groups. This is fine. Should I run around calling the United Negro College fund bigots for not supporting white people? You have a double standard.

    I'm glad you love your niece, but to say something was missing in their relationship because God maybe wasn't in it, is just offensive.
    So now it's offensive to believe that God helps marriage? Is it offensive to get married in a church too? Man you have a double standard. I've been married for 26 years and can tell you that God has certainly helped my marriage. I am entitled to my opinion about my family. Their marriage lasted 6 months. I think something was missing. God was certainly part of it.

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    07-05-2013 10:15 PM
  11. Aquila's Avatar
    So now it's offensive to believe that God helps marriage?
    Not at all offensive as long as we all realize someone else could reach a different conclusion. Depending on who you're saying it to, it could be wildly helpful information, or useless or hurtful. You know your niece way better than we do
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    07-05-2013 10:18 PM
  12. Jerry Hildenbrand's Avatar
    They're allowed to be selective. Lots of charities are selective. They do not omit people for being gay. Sheesh. What a load of rubbish.
    Not for lack of trying. Salvation Army, Bush work to OK hiring bias on gays - Chicago Tribune

    But, the views of their leadership may not reflect the views of the good-hearted (and I believe most of them are) people who donate and participate in their fund-raising.
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    07-05-2013 10:33 PM
  13. JHBThree's Avatar
    And that man has every right to express his beliefs, but yet he gets boycotted and persecuted for it. Maybe anti-gays should boycott Target, J.C.Penny, etc.
    Uh. They HAVE boycotted target and JC penny. The general public at large didn't care, spbthey stopped.

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    07-05-2013 11:11 PM
  14. Aquila's Avatar


    Fitting, this ended up on Facebook, posted by God, no less.
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    07-05-2013 11:41 PM
  15. JHBThree's Avatar
    https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...02155770_n.jpg

    Fitting, this ended up on Facebook, posted by God, no less.
    Haha. I love that guy. He posts the best stuff.
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    07-06-2013 12:37 AM
  16. Aquila's Avatar
    Haha. I love that guy. He posts the best stuff.
    He once told me that they "rock S3's" in heaven. I had asked about the Android versus iOS war.
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    07-06-2013 12:45 AM
  17. AngelArs's Avatar
    Their marriage lasted 6 months.
    Lots of straight marriages last less than that.

    In Denmark the divorce rate of gay marriage is around 14%. In the UK it's less than 1%. As of 2011 in the U.S the divorce rate for gay marriage is around HALF that of straight couples.

    Do tell me again what your point was...
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    07-06-2013 01:12 AM
  18. JHBThree's Avatar
    They're allowed to be selective. Lots of charities are selective. They do not omit people for being gay. Sheesh. What a load of rubbish. The Salvation Army has dedicated itself to helping people and we should be thankful for what they do. There are many charities that just help black people and many other exclusive groups. This is fine. Should I run around calling the United Negro College fund bigots for not supporting white people? You have a double standard.

    So now it's offensive to believe that God helps marriage? Is it offensive to get married in a church too? Man you have a double standard. I've been married for 26 years and can tell you that God has certainly helped my marriage. I am entitled to my opinion about my family. Their marriage lasted 6 months. I think something was missing. God was certainly part of it.

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    Maybe the something they were missing was the type of love that is necessary for a marriage. Couples, gay or straight, can make a mistake and make that commitment before they're ready.

    Also, what gadget was saying is that he found it offensive that you believed that god not being in that marriage was the cause of its failure. The logical conclusion of that statement is that no gay marriage could succeed because there wasn't god in them.

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    07-06-2013 01:43 AM
  19. GadgetGator's Avatar
    They're allowed to be selective. Lots of charities are selective. They do not omit people for being gay. Sheesh. What a load of rubbish. The Salvation Army has dedicated itself to helping people and we should be thankful for what they do. There are many charities that just help black people and many other exclusive groups. This is fine. Should I run around calling the United Negro College fund bigots for not supporting white people? You have a double standard.
    Talk about rubbish! Sure is a whole lot of assumption you're doing there. You don't even know me. You have absolutely no idea what I think about any other charity since I haven't discussed any. So why do you assume? And talk about a double standard, first you say that the Salvation Army doesn't discriminate, then you go on to make excuses and justification for discrimination by saying other groups do it too. Great reason. I will continue to call Salvation Army out on it's BS. And it's great that they do some good stuff, but so do a lot of other organizations only without all the BS. Or dragging religion into it. They just help people.

    So now it's offensive to believe that God helps marriage? Is it offensive to get married in a church too? Man you have a double standard. I've been married for 26 years and can tell you that God has certainly helped my marriage. I am entitled to my opinion about my family. Their marriage lasted 6 months. I think something was missing. God was certainly part of it.

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    Who said anything about getting married in a church? It's offensive to think religion was this missing component in someone else's relationship. Basically you are implying that they got divorced because they weren't religious enough. And implying that couples need religion and your interpretation of God in order to be successful. That's your opinion, but it does not make it a fact. There's plenty of couples that do just fine without religion dragged into it. And where is my double standard here? You like to throw around that term a lot it would seem, but you don't know what you are talking about.
    07-06-2013 01:58 AM
  20. Live2ride883's Avatar
    I've pretty much stayed away from commenting on this thread after their first couple of pages, however I would like to ask a question of the supporters of gay marriage, and the fall of prop 8.

    How are you going to react when men or women want to take more than one spouse? There are other scenario's that I find just as disgusting that could possibly come out from this as well.....

    Another thing, I certainly don't understand is how anyone can state that who they love is beyond their control....

    I choose to love, honor and respect my wife everyday. We in general can also choose to stop loving our significant others after we or they have had an affair, or dishonored our relationship (violated the vows of marriage) in one way or another.
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    07-06-2013 03:58 AM
  21. Aquila's Avatar
    So I would argue that very few people show conscious control over their own actions, let alone the emotions that rule them.

    Transmitted through spacetime.
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    07-06-2013 04:07 AM
  22. msndrstood's Avatar
    https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...02155770_n.jpg

    Fitting, this ended up on Facebook, posted by God, no less.
    Lol, love him! I repost a lot of his stuff on FB. I thought about reposting it here but you beat me to it!!!

    Sent via Note II
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    07-06-2013 08:53 AM
  23. badbrad17's Avatar
    Not for lack of trying. Salvation Army, Bush work to OK hiring bias on gays - Chicago Tribune

    But, the views of their leadership may not reflect the views of the good-hearted (and I believe most of them are) people who donate and participate in their fund-raising.
    This is a touchy subject. Especially for an organization that is deeply rooted in Christian belief. They want people who work for them to share in the same moral beliefs that they founded their organization on. This is more than just views on sexual preferences. To say that they should hire people that don't share in this same view could undermine the goals and purpose of the entire organization. I'm not even sure where I land on this topic as it is a tough one, but I do know that I have never met a person who is gay that believes in the Bible. There are lots of people who claim to, but I've never met one in person or online. For many this is a conflicted situation which makes it very difficult to just be neutral. It's like hiring someone to work in your church that doesn't believe in the philosophy of that church. Their impact would be counter productive in the goals of the organization.

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    07-06-2013 09:51 AM
  24. badbrad17's Avatar
    Not at all offensive as long as we all realize someone else could reach a different conclusion. Depending on who you're saying it to, it could be wildly helpful information, or useless or hurtful. You know your niece way better than we do
    Anything the Bible says about marriage is helpful. They are entitled to have their opinion and not agree, but to say that it is offensive doesn't make any sense.

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    07-06-2013 09:57 AM
  25. badbrad17's Avatar
    Lots of straight marriages last less than that.

    In Denmark the divorce rate of gay marriage is around 14%. In the UK it's less than 1%. As of 2011 in the U.S the divorce rate for gay marriage is around HALF that of straight couples.

    Do tell me again what your point was...
    My point is that these straight couples also need God in their marriage. Do the survey on Christian marriage and you will see a much higher success rate. Not that there isn't divorce too, but having strong committed goals based on Biblical teaching helps lots of people to overcome the trials of life and difficulties in marriage.

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    07-06-2013 10:01 AM
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