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  1. SteveISU's Avatar
    No negotiations on budget, just raise the debt ceiling with zero negotiations. So let me get this straight, the democrats just want to keep spending money, borrowing money, and printing money with zero restraint? We take in $2.5 trillion and spend almost $4 trillion, and that is sustainable? We add a $2.5 trillion dollar entitlement when the other two we have are going bankrupt and we can't talk about spending? If this is what you keep voting for then I have no pity for your kids or grand kids because mom and dad were idiots. The sad part is all these idiots every do is push it off another 6 weeks to 3 months and then rinse and repeat the same fight over and over gain. Term limits!
    10-03-2013 09:55 AM
  2. jdbii's Avatar
    Any history, political, civics junkies out there know whether or not shutting down the government or not funding legislation is a new kind of precedent exercised by Congress that has never happened before? I know it happened for 17 days in 1995 (just heard that on the radio) but I can't remember what that was about. Is this time any different? Is this basically the second time in US history that the government has been shut down? I'm wondering if we are seeing a new kind of power being exercised by Congress that we've never seen before, or only once before in 1995. The system of "checks and balances" works pretty good so far as I'm concerned, but are we seeing the birth of a new "check" within the system of "checks and balances" for the first time? (Or second if 1995 was the first).
    10-03-2013 10:04 AM
  3. msndrstood's Avatar
    Let me put this very simply.

    CONGRESS passes the budget. This is money already spent. Everyone acts like this President spent 17 trillion dollars on his own! The Iraq war was 1 trillion, the bank bail out under BUSH was nearly1 trillion. Unfunded Medicare Drug benefit $29 billion per year since inception.

    There is a lot more to economics than talking points.

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    10-03-2013 10:06 AM
  4. dakeb's Avatar
    Microsoft USA shut down unexpectedly due to errors. Press 1 to restart USA with safe drivers and without add-in firearms.nra If you recently installed antivirus software Obamacare.exe this may clash with funding.gov. Uninstall Obamacare.exe and funding.gov should operate normally.
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    10-03-2013 10:20 AM
  5. SteveISU's Avatar
    Let me put this very simply.

    CONGRESS passes the budget. This is money already spent. Everyone acts like this President spent 17 trillion dollars on his own! The Iraq war was 1 trillion, the bank bail out under BUSH was nearly1 trillion. Unfunded Medicare Drug benefit $29 billion per year since inception.

    There is a lot more to economics than talking points.

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    FYI...the banks had to pay that money back, and they have, even Obama has acknowledge this. OMG we didn't hand anything out for free, imagine the concept?????
    10-03-2013 10:23 AM
  6. jdbii's Avatar
    Let me put this very simply.

    CONGRESS passes the budget. This is money already spent. Everyone acts like this President spent 17 trillion dollars on his own! The Iraq war was 1 trillion, the bank bail out under BUSH was nearly1 trillion. Unfunded Medicare Drug benefit $29 billion per year since inception.

    There is a lot more to economics than talking points.

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    Is what is happening right now Congress not passing a budget or Congress not funding an already passed budget?
    10-03-2013 10:40 AM
  7. palandri's Avatar
    FYI...the banks had to pay that money back, and they have, even Obama has acknowledge this. OMG we didn't hand anything out for free, imagine the concept?????
    I don't know a lot about the pay back, nor do I want to go read about it, but I remember reading there were still a few hundred banks that were having trouble making payments and a few banks paid back the loan with SBA money they got from the government, or something like that.
    10-03-2013 10:48 AM
  8. SteveISU's Avatar
    I don't know a lot about the pay back, nor do I want to go read about it, but I remember reading there were still a few hundred banks that were having trouble making payments and a few banks paid back the loan with SBA money they got from the government, or something like that.

    Some banks did have trouble paying them back. Fact is the government made more money then they loaned out. It's paid back.
    10-03-2013 12:08 PM
  9. pappy53's Avatar
    We the people voted and re-elected the President. He ran on the ACA and won twice. The Republicans need to get over it and move on. 8.3 million people signed onto the healthcare.gov site on Day 1. That should tell you the need is out there.

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    10-03-2013 11:02 PM
  10. pappy53's Avatar
    We the people voted and re-elected the President. He ran on the ACA and won twice. The Republicans need to get over it and move on. 8.3 million people signed onto the healthcare.gov site on Day 1. That should tell you the need is out there.

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    Actually was verified at 2.8 million, not 8 million.
    10-03-2013 11:04 PM
  11. msndrstood's Avatar
    Actually was verified at 2.8 million, not 8 million.
    Then we're reading different stats. New York had 30 million hits on their website so far this week. Either way, the need is out there.

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    10-04-2013 06:37 AM
  12. llamabreath's Avatar
    Then we're reading different stats. New York had 30 million hits on their website so far this week. Either way, the need is out there.

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    I don't think anybody's disputing the "need".

    What's in dispute is the way it's being addressed.
    10-04-2013 07:00 AM
  13. NoYankees44's Avatar
    If it were not for the fact that it ultimately costs Me(the tax payer) money for shutdown, restart, ect, I would absolutely not care at all.

    One interesting thing to come out of this is the poll that said the majority of Americans think the Republicans are acting like "Spoiled Children". I could see an argument for them acting like children, but "Spoiled"? They have not gotten a single thing they have wanted in 5 years. I dont see that could be interpreted as spoiled. The 0 compromise dems on the other hand...

    The ACA getting defunded would be the only good thing to come out of this at this point. And i see the Republicans caving long before that happens. Its going to be really interesting to see how the dems and the media blame all the terrible points of this law on the Republicans and some how make it their fault when everyone realizes what is actually in the bill. It could never ever be the fault of the only party that voted for it.
    10-04-2013 08:27 AM
  14. JW4VZW's Avatar
    Any Obama supporters care to explain why there's more security at the 24hr, open-air WWII Memorial today (to keep out those ever so dangerous wheelchair-bound veterans) than there was at Benghazi on 9/11?

    Yeah, that is depressing really.
    10-04-2013 10:12 AM
  15. JW4VZW's Avatar
    That's a two-way street.
    Why is it okay to talk smack about the Republican Party, but it is not allowed to do the same against the Democarats and obama?
    10-04-2013 10:16 AM
  16. llamabreath's Avatar
    Yeah, that is depressing really.
    It costs more to keep it closed, than it did to keep it open.

    10-04-2013 10:19 AM
  17. pappy53's Avatar
    Its going to be really interesting to see how the dems and the media blame all the terrible points of this law on the Republicans and some how make it their fault when everyone realizes what is actually in the bill.
    Pelosi said that the only way to see what was in the bill was to pass it, and for the American people to sign up for it. The Dem party is such a socialistic joke.
    10-04-2013 10:33 AM
  18. JW4VZW's Avatar
    It costs more to keep it closed, than it did to keep it open.

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    Isn't that a joke! I can't believe that they attempted to close down Mount Vernon, which is privately owned. Also, I hope that the government employees who are currently not working do not receive pay for the period that they are out of work.
    10-04-2013 11:10 AM
  19. JW4VZW's Avatar
    Pelosi said that the only way to see what was in the bill was to pass it, and for the American people to sign up for it. The Dem party is such a socialistic joke.
    Somehow I am sure that the Republicans will get blamed for that too. How can you pass a bill without knowing everything that is in it? I did not sign for my car that I purchased, nor my apartment lease, until I read everything.
    10-04-2013 11:12 AM
  20. Scott7217's Avatar
    Also, I hope that the government employees who are currently not working do not receive pay for the period that they are out of work.
    I propose we take money away from the senators and representatives and use that money to pay the government employees. I bet you Congress will come to a quick consensus if you hit them in the wallet.

    I don't think we should penalize government employees who didn't do anything that would have lead to the shut down. I don't see how park rangers or cancer scientists, for example, are responsible for this mess.
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    10-04-2013 02:40 PM
  21. Fairclough's Avatar
    I propose we take money away from the senators and representatives and use that money to pay the government employees. I bet you Congress will come to a quick consensus if you hit them in the wallet.

    I don't think we should penalize government employees who didn't do anything that would have lead to the shut down. I don't see how park rangers or cancer scientists, for example, are responsible for this mess.
    Might not work, I understand your politions are from well off backgrounds.. similar to our clive Palmar (earns 100k a year from parliament, estimates say spent about 100 million on his campaign from his own pocket). Most ours luckly are all former economics and lawyers who are self made / still rely on their income with the exception of Clive and Kevin Rudd.

    Not going to lie, internationally this looks like a joke.
    10-05-2013 06:34 AM
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    10-05-2013 10:02 AM
  23. NoYankees44's Avatar
    I would actually completely see his point if it were not for the fact that the ACA was 100% partisan and that all the polls taken when the act was passed indicated that the majority of Americans did not want it.

    I'm to the point now that I don't care if it passes completely. Let the ppl see how much it is going to destroy the system. Maybe then we can actually completely get rid of it and start over.
    10-05-2013 12:11 PM
  24. JW4VZW's Avatar
    I propose we take money away from the senators and representatives and use that money to pay the government employees. I bet you Congress will come to a quick consensus if you hit them in the wallet.

    I don't think we should penalize government employees who didn't do anything that would have lead to the shut down. I don't see how park rangers or cancer scientists, for example, are responsible for this mess.
    I see your point, but I do not think that people should be getting paid if they are not going to work.
    10-05-2013 02:16 PM
  25. Fairclough's Avatar
    Taking money away from gov employees would make families like yours struggle with their mortgage is that really fair?

    - Android Central App. Remember courage is contagious.
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    10-05-2013 05:20 PM
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