- Have you heard of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
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It's basically a religion that believes a supernatural creator that looks like a bunch of spaghetti and meatballs created the world. Pastafarians (the people who believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster) believe their doctrine should be given equal discussion time in classrooms, along with evolution and intelligent design/creationism.
I think most people believe the Flying Spaghetti Monster is a parody that is trying to make a philosophical point about what can and cannot be taught in class. Some people think it's offensive, while other people think it's clever. Honestly, I didn't know this was a thing. What's your take on the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Have the Pastafarians made a good point? What makes a religion a legitimate one?12-26-2013 09:56 PMLike 0 -
- To each their own.
Now to expand on what should be taught in the class room, I say creationism, intelligent design, etc. should be left out of public schools. Not only can it be considered putting religion in the class room, but the public schools should keep to sound scientific principles on the subject of how the planet and life was formed. Any other forms based on religion should be kept to their teachings in religious based private schools in my opinion.msndrstood likes this.12-27-2013 10:58 AMLike 1 - I remember a little neighborhood kid getting very traumatized by an evolution class. He was very young at the time, maybe 6 or 7. Their teacher had told them they'd evolve to no longer having toes and he couldn't grasp the future enough to know it would not happen in his lifetime.
Somehow I think God would have been less scary.
Sent from my LG870 via Tapatalk 212-27-2013 11:31 AMLike 0 - Would you be opposed to having intelligent design taught as part of a social studies class? I could see the issue of discussing it in a science class, but it might fit better in a class that deals with cultural studies, the humanities, or history.12-30-2013 06:03 PMLike 0
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What's really silly, is that nearly half of American's think that Evolution, Intelligent Design and Creationism are three different things that should all be given equal time to each other. That makes the curriculum 67% creationism and 33% factual. I could see having a class ABOUT the debate, possibly in high school or a college setting, but actually having the debate is just stupid.
My knowledge of physics gives me no authority whatsoever to walk into a church and try to teach a congregation about John the Baptist and their knowledge of theology has no authority to walk into a classroom and try to spin mythology or pseudoscience as "a competing theory". There is no theory of intelligent design, there is a wish and maybe a hypothesis.
Also, I don't think anyone actually believes in the flying spaghetti monster. They're trolling, but they have a fairly valid point.msndrstood and SactoKingsFan like this.12-30-2013 06:18 PMLike 2 - Considering how much you'd have to include to make sure all religions were included, I think it would be easier to just keep them out (as originally intended back when the Flying Spaghetti Monster parted the red sea of Ragu
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I sometimes wonder why there's such a fuss over evolution. If you look at some of the "super bugs" that are proving immune to some of our strongest medicines, that's pretty much the evolutionary process. A bug develops an immunity to something that's trying to kill it, doesn't seem that offensive to me.
There's a comedian that has a good take on it. His skit involves asking someone that believes in Creationism to explain fossils. The response from the person is that God is testing his faith. At which point he acts out God going around planting fossils around as if it's a practical joker laying a piece of fake dog doo so that it's easily found.12-30-2013 08:35 PMLike 0 - I think that only FACTS should be taught in school up through twelfth grade.
I also feel that only FACTS should be on the NEWS.
I'm also very tired. Just worked nineteen damn hours.
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This post may have been posted with numerous beers having been consumed.12-30-2013 09:17 PMLike 0 - For a long time, I'd only ever heard the term "intelligent design" but didn't have a real understanding of what was actually meant by that.
I thought it meant that there appears to be an engineering intelligence in things like physics and structure and genetics and chemical reactions and gravity, etc., etc. That kind of concept I would have no problem going along with, because I really don't hold with "everything we see came about by random fortunate happenstance" but what is actually taught is not something I hold with, so yes, I would prefer it not to be taught.
However, what I also feel is required is something else that's lacking in today's teaching, and that is analysis, analytical thinking, and logical reasoning. We just "drill and kill" in the K-8 system, and especially these days do little more than "teach to the test" and so the sheer volume of things which people DO NOT KNOW, and methodologies of thinking which people clearly DO NOT POSSESS is frightening (to me, at least).
You folks care about Intelligent Design being taught? Well, why not care about the people featured in Jay Leno's "Jaywalking" segments instead? That points to a problem that is magnitudes of order worse, and which indirectly allows for something like Intelligent Design in the first place. Also, given the decline in numbers of religious people in this country, the whole "Intelligent Design" thing is probably going to become irrelevant anyhow, since more and more people will not be of religious faith in the first place.12-30-2013 10:03 PMLike 0 - In the simplest terms, Pastafarianism is a
satiricalreal religion founded with the purpose of offering perspective on religious discrimination and on the overall obliquity of religion. Unlike many religions, Pastafarians are completely tolerant of others' religions (except when they're not). I am a practicing Pastafarian (when I feel like it).
Below is a video of a group of Pastafarians petitioning County Commissioners for a nativity display last year. They were ultimately shot down because, of course, their religion was determined to be less valid than Christianity and Judaism.
What many don't know is the Flying Spaghetti Monster can be a vengeful god as much as a loving one, so I pray these commissioners don't suffer her wrath for their blatant display of discrimination. R'amen.12-31-2013 09:30 AMLike 0 -
- However, what I also feel is required is something else that's lacking in today's teaching, and that is analysis, analytical thinking, and logical reasoning. We just "drill and kill" in the K-8 system, and especially these days do little more than "teach to the test" and so the sheer volume of things which people DO NOT KNOW, and methodologies of thinking which people clearly DO NOT POSSESS is frightening (to me, at least).12-31-2013 01:42 PMLike 0
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- People already pray to statues; what's the difference?
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Nobody really knows, but legend has it that it is an offshoot of it.
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This post may have been posted with numerous beers having been consumed.01-01-2014 06:50 PMLike 0 - Scientific principles are far from sound. Believing that absolutely everything came from absolutely nothing without any intelligence to make it happen requires far more blind faith than I am able to muster. Think about that, everything you see around you, all of the amazing inventions and all of the amazing things in nature somehow began from absolutely nothing. Do you seriously believe that??
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk01-03-2014 08:22 AMLike 0 - Zero multiplied by zero always equals zero. Zero x zero a million times still equals zero. To believe that all came from zero seems nonsensical. Even if you believe in the BBT and evolution surely you can see that it couldn't have been random and couldn't originate from nothingness.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk01-03-2014 08:29 AMLike 0 - Scientific principles are far from sound. Believing that absolutely everything came from absolutely nothing without any intelligence to make it happen requires far more blind faith than I am able to muster. Think about that, everything you see around you, all of the amazing inventions and all of the amazing things in nature somehow began from absolutely nothing. Do you seriously believe that??
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The proper retort to a response such as yours would be simply "I don't know and neither do you!"
Saying an intelligence made it all only begs further questions... Where did this intelligence come from? Where did that which created the intelligence's intelligence come from etc.
And besides, everyone already knows the answer is 42.
Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk01-03-2014 08:44 AMLike 0 - It's not necessarily true that everyone who doesn't believe in a diety also believes everything came from nothing.
The proper retort to a response such as yours would be simply "I don't know and neither do you!"
Saying an intelligence made it all only begs further questions... Where did this intelligence come from? Where did that which created the intelligence's intelligence come from etc.
And besides, everyone already knows the answer is 42.
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Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk01-03-2014 08:46 AMLike 0 - It's not necessarily true that everyone who doesn't believe in a diety also believes everything came from nothing.
The proper retort to a response such as yours would be simply "I don't know and neither do you!"
Saying an intelligence made it all only begs further questions... Where did this intelligence come from? Where did that which created the intelligence's intelligence come from etc.
And besides, everyone already knows the answer is 42.
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I think signatures are stupid.01-03-2014 09:02 AMLike 0 - Scientific principles are far from sound. Believing that absolutely everything came from absolutely nothing without any intelligence to make it happen requires far more blind faith than I am able to muster. Think about that, everything you see around you, all of the amazing inventions and all of the amazing things in nature somehow began from absolutely nothing. Do you seriously believe that??
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Granted, religion can help people in other ways, such as how to treat each other and love life. It's just when it comes to stuff like how life as we know it exists, that should be left to science in public schools.01-03-2014 09:56 AMLike 0
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