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  1. Timelessblur's Avatar
    Christie knew the emails were coming out, he found out his staff lied to him less than 24hrs. Listen, I'll give the benefit of the doubt for now to a guy who took center stage, made a very apologetic statement, then took a drilling from the press for 2 HOURS, answering every question they asked. Obama hasn't answered 2 hours worth of questions for the numerous scandals surrounding him combined as Christie spent on a few lane closures. And to answer your question about seriousness. No, I don't think a traffic jam is as serious as putting guns in the hands of drug cartels and having them used to kill our border agents or fracturing our relationships with foreign heads of state who are our allies because we're bugging their cell phones.
    If you really think he was blindsided by this and "just found out about it" then you really are way to trusting.

    Their is way to much pointing to him covering this up. You do not have 2 friends resign and be investigated more than once and just now finding out about this.

    This have every sign of being a true cover up and people need to fry and rot in jail.
    01-10-2014 11:45 AM
  2. GadgetGator's Avatar
    Christie knew the emails were coming out, he found out his staff lied to him less than 24hrs. Listen, I'll give the benefit of the doubt for now to a guy who took center stage, made a very apologetic statement, then took a drilling from the press for 2 HOURS, answering every question they asked. Obama hasn't answered 2 hours worth of questions for the numerous scandals surrounding him combined as Christie spent on a few lane closures. And to answer your question about seriousness. No, I don't think a traffic jam is as serious as putting guns in the hands of drug cartels and having them used to kill our border agents or fracturing our relationships with foreign heads of state who are our allies because we're bugging their cell phones.
    Don't get too impressed with the long press conference. That's a well known strategy designed to wear out reporters and get them on your side. It was even in an episode of The West Wing.

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    01-10-2014 12:19 PM
  3. llamabreath's Avatar
    Don't get too impressed with the long press conference. That's a well known strategy designed to wear out reporters and get them on your side. It was even in an episode of The West Wing.

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    So the short press conferences filled with denial and ignorance that we've been seeing more and more of lately are better?




    I think signatures are stupid.
    01-10-2014 04:08 PM
  4. GadgetGator's Avatar
    So the short press conferences filled with denial and ignorance that we've been seeing more and more of lately are better?
    Why do you jump to extremes? Is that the only options you think are available..one extreme or the other? The point was to point out what this actually was and that it wasn't an act of benevolence on the part of Christie the way some would paint it as.
    01-10-2014 09:10 PM
  5. llamabreath's Avatar
    Why do you jump to extremes? Is that the only options you think are available..one extreme or the other? The point was to point out what this actually was and that it wasn't an act of benevolence on the part of Christie the way some would paint it as.
    I jump to reality; never extremes.



    I think signatures are stupid.
    01-11-2014 04:17 AM
  6. msndrstood's Avatar
    He's toast.

    With butter and Jam.

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    01-11-2014 09:26 AM
  7. anon8126715's Avatar
    He shouldn't have mentioned anything about his "workout". I think that didn't help his credibility much, even if he was working out.
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    01-11-2014 02:25 PM
  8. GadgetGator's Avatar
    I jump to reality; never extremes.
    That is just not true. Ironically, the press conference you are defending WAS filled with denial and ignorance as to what was going on in his office. Really no different from anything Obama has done lately. And while in both cases I agree that they can't know what everyone is up to, they can make better hiring and promotion decisions than what we have seen from both men. I still question why so many people are involved in Christie's case. It points to a culture problem when people are doing things right in your own office. The boss sets the tone.
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    01-11-2014 02:53 PM
  9. llamabreath's Avatar
    That is just not true. Ironically, the press conference you are defending WAS filled with denial and ignorance....
    Where have I ever defended anything ANY politician (read: liar, jackhole, corrupt, liar, egomaniac, liar, liar) has done? They ALL suck.

    They're almost as bad as the people that wear iPhones on their belt.



    I think signatures are stupid.
    01-11-2014 03:05 PM
  10. anon(6142785)'s Avatar
    Being a liar is a prerequisite to being a politician. Doesn't matter if you are a Dumbocrat or a Repugnican

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    01-11-2014 05:05 PM
  11. msndrstood's Avatar
    Being a liar is a prerequisite to being a politician. Doesn't matter if you are a Dumbocrat or a Repugnican

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    And it only took 6 pages. :rolleyes:

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    01-11-2014 05:09 PM
  12. anon8126715's Avatar
    Being a liar is a prerequisite to being a politician. Doesn't matter if you are a Dumbocrat or a Repugnican

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    This pretty much sums it up, and it's why you see candidates make promises to gain votes that they don't intend on making good on. They do however make good on their promises to their campaign contributors when they can.

    And this is why we need to find a way to take money out of D.C. Of course, none of us will probably see this in our lifetime because those with money understand that adding money to the equation will limit who can and who can't run. It automatically weeds out candidates that would do the most good for the most people. Big business: "What, you say you want to make gas, medicine, and food more affordable to the working class? Well, I'll just donate a large portion of money to your rival who isn't as ambitious about cutting into my profits".
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    01-11-2014 05:14 PM
  13. llamabreath's Avatar
    And it only took 6 pages. :rolleyes:

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    Four, from where I'm standing.




    I think signatures are stupid.
    01-11-2014 06:36 PM
  14. GadgetGator's Avatar
    This pretty much sums it up, and it's why you see candidates make promises to gain votes that they don't intend on making good on. They do however make good on their promises to their campaign contributors when they can.

    And this is why we need to find a way to take money out of D.C. Of course, none of us will probably see this in our lifetime because those with money understand that adding money to the equation will limit who can and who can't run. It automatically weeds out candidates that would do the most good for the most people. Big business: "What, you say you want to make gas, medicine, and food more affordable to the working class? Well, I'll just donate a large portion of money to your rival who isn't as ambitious about cutting into my profits".
    Except it is not a DC issue. As this incident shows corruption happens on the state level. If you want to take it even further, look to Bell Gardens, CA where you can see it on a city level even.

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    01-11-2014 06:40 PM
  15. msndrstood's Avatar
    Four, from where I'm standing.




    I think signatures are stupid.
    We should place bets next time, it could be fun.

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    01-11-2014 06:40 PM
  16. llamabreath's Avatar
    We should place bets next time, it could be fun.

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    :thumbup:




    I think signatures are stupid.

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    01-11-2014 06:52 PM
  17. anon8126715's Avatar
    Except it is not a DC issue. As this incident shows corruption happens on the state level. If you want to take it even further, look to Bell Gardens, CA where you can see it on a city level even.

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    It's a bigger issue in D.C. than it is at other levels. We need change from the top. What irritates me most is how politicians leave Washington and start working for the lobbyists. The sad part is the conflict of interest that's obvious isn't put in check. Why politicians are allowed to make money off of the lobbyists that already have a lot of influence over our political system is beyond me.
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    01-11-2014 07:45 PM
  18. SteveISU's Avatar
    If what Christie is accused of knowing took place in Chicago, no one would bat an eye. We take crooked politics to a level beyond what the rest of the nation could even comprehend. Convicted felon's get elected here.
    01-14-2014 10:29 AM
  19. anon(6142785)'s Avatar
    Chicago's got nothing on Texas where they invented political corruption and elevated it to an art form.

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    01-14-2014 01:54 PM
  20. jdbii's Avatar
    I jump to reality; never extremes.
    We've probably already seen this, but I couldn't resist.
    Attached Thumbnails Chris Christie - a bridge to nowhere?-llama_91938310_203905c.jpg  
    01-14-2014 02:04 PM
  21. msndrstood's Avatar
    Power corrupts, period. It happens in every group no matter how big or how small. I've seen it happen in small non profit groups, I've seen it in biker 'heritage' groups, local government, local school board, neighborhood groups, everywhere. Human nature, I suppose. Doesn't make it right, just makes it common.

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    01-14-2014 02:05 PM
  22. llamabreath's Avatar
    We've probably already seen this, but I couldn't resist.
    Yep, but thanks.




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    01-14-2014 03:29 PM
  23. Aquila's Avatar
    Power corrupts, period. It happens in every group no matter how big or how small. I've seen it happen in small non profit groups, I've seen it in biker 'heritage' groups, local government, local school board, neighborhood groups, everywhere. Human nature, I suppose. Doesn't make it right, just makes it common.

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    You've just made a very good argument for a government that is manned by 99.99% robots and 1 DLotS.
    01-14-2014 05:09 PM
  24. msndrstood's Avatar
    You've just made a very good argument for a government that is manned by 99.99% robots and 1 DLotS.
    Ah, but then they turn into Skynet. And we know how that goes. Even robots have the God complex.

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    01-14-2014 05:15 PM
  25. Aquila's Avatar
    Ah, but then they turn into Skynet. And we know how that goes. Even robots have the God complex.

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    That's why they're ruled by the DLotS, to keep them in check Checks and balances are the key to any successful government.
    01-14-2014 05:17 PM
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