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  1. Mooncatt's Avatar
    This whole "none of the above" idea is starting to sound better and better. Looked into Johnson some more, and I can't support his views on immigration. I feel that would hurt the country in a big way.
    07-25-2016 03:02 PM
  2. Scott7217's Avatar
    Now the test will come...can she make herself relatable to all those types of people she showed in her video?
    Well, the results are in. Hillary Clinton simply could not inspire enough people to go out and vote for her. Donald Trump will be the next president of the United States.

    What did Clinton do wrong? What did Trump do right? What are your thoughts on a Trump presidency?
    11-09-2016 06:12 PM
  3. Mooncatt's Avatar
    I voted none of the above and just going along for the ride. Yes, I did vote (so don't confuse it with apathy), but I had some big issues with all the candidates and voted a write in for "none of the above." I'm done voting for someone just to keep someone else out of office.

    What I found most interesting during this is how a vote for Gary Johnson counted 3 times.

    I'd you're a Clinton supporter, it counted for Trump.

    If you're a Trump supporter, it counted for Clinton.

    If you were a Johnson supporter, it counted for Johnson.

    Also I think it was pretty intriguing that Clinton didn't give a concession speech last night.
    11-09-2016 06:19 PM
  4. Scott7217's Avatar
    Also I think it was pretty intriguing that Clinton didn't give a concession speech last night.
    I heard Clinton was inconsolable once it was clear what the election results would be. She was the clear favorite, and all the polls said that she would win. The loss must have been devastating.

    On top of that, Congress is now under Republican control. It's only a matter of time before they also put conservative judges on the Supreme Court. Could Republicans roll back everything that was done during the Obama administration? We'll find out soon enough.
    11-10-2016 03:10 PM
  5. tadpoles's Avatar
    Well, the results are in. Hillary Clinton simply could not inspire enough people to go out and vote for her. Donald Trump will be the next president of the United States.

    What did Clinton do wrong? What did Trump do right? What are your thoughts on a Trump presidency?
    Cautiously horrified.
    11-10-2016 04:24 PM
  6. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    I heard Clinton was inconsolable once it was clear what the election results would be. She was the clear favorite, and all the polls said that she would win. The loss must have been devastating.

    On top of that, Congress is now under Republican control. It's only a matter of time before they also put conservative judges on the Supreme Court. Could Republicans roll back everything that was done during the Obama administration? We'll find out soon enough.
    Hopefully the stuff bad for the American people will be rolled back....the American people need to come together and realize the enemies are the other countries that don't like us being the #1 greatest nation on earth.
    11-10-2016 04:43 PM
  7. Mooncatt's Avatar
    I heard Clinton was inconsolable once it was clear what the election results would be. She was the clear favorite, and all the polls said that she would win. The loss must have been devastating.
    Clear favorite? I don't think I'd go that far. The popular vote numbers I just looked up only had her up by 336k votes out of a combined 120M between her and Trump, and only a 1% difference. In relative terms, that's kind of a close call.

    And poll numbers can't always be trusted. I was actually called to participate in an election poll last month. The way they asked the questions, I couldn't answer with my honest opinion for many of them. A popular example of this is the polls that only allowed you to pick either Clinton or Trump, not a third party candidate/write-in or simply abstaining. So I just gave my answers knowing the real value of them would be lost to the pollster's narrow interpretation as the polling dictated.

    If she was that inconsolable, then that's probably a good indicator of her ruling as president.
    11-10-2016 06:32 PM
  8. NoYankees44's Avatar
    Hillary lost because she alienated a large portion of the democratic base during the primaries and she was generally unlike able to everyone else. Many that did vote for her simply did to vote against Trump.

    Not that it was that very different for Trump, but he had a strong silent movement in the middle class that was able to edge it out for him.

    I am still in shock he got the nomination in the first place, and even more surprised he won. I am very concerned going forward, but the more that I read about his campaign and general actions, the more I see that he is very intelligent underneath his moronic face he puts on. Whether or not he will use that intelligence to actually make some good changes is yet to be seen.

    The only actual good news from this election is that Hillary will not be getting Supreme Court nominations...
    11-13-2016 02:20 PM
  9. MikeyBugs95's Avatar
    About Trump's intelligence... I do like the SNL cold open from the 17th portraying Trump as just a pawn on a bigger game between Putin and some other entity. In a way it does seem to be a bit logical. All things aside, Putin is an incredibly smart and conniving person. He has bigger plans that simply putting Trump in power because Putin has a vendetta against Clinton and Trump just likes him. He has bigger plans and I doubt even Trump knows what he's planning.

    On the domestic side of things, I am a bit appalled and still more so shocked that Trump won. While I had a feeling that if he won, he would break all his promises, I'm still very weary of him. He has 6 opinions on every issue and every one of them can be his true opinion. I am deeply concerned about the apparent and very real conflicts of interest that have now been brought to the fore. He needs to cut his ties with his business and put it in a true blind trust. The conflicts have also been shown through the many meetings with foreign diplomats and domestic business leaders that his children have sat in on. The children that he wants to run his business in his absence. The children that he also wants to have as advisors to his administration.

    Either way, I digress. We'll just have to sit back and watch and hope that the world doesn't burn around us.
    12-19-2016 12:33 AM
  10. Solitary Wolf's Avatar
    the world hasn't burned down yet, good on Trump so far. He's delivered some things so far which I like. Otherwise, it's a bit disappointing seeing him back down, but reality had to kick in sooner or later.
    06-04-2017 08:12 PM
  11. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    We're all still here so things must be OK.
    07-05-2017 05:03 PM
  12. Sparkxster's Avatar
    True but since he's been in office what notable things has he done? I can't think of a single thing.
    02-17-2018 04:25 AM
  13. Mooncatt's Avatar
    True but since he's been in office what notable things has he done? I can't think of a single thing.
    To give credit where it's due, the recent tax change (though not the plan I'd want to see) has been helpful in bringing money back to the U.S. and a lot of workers have benefited from it.

    Another is he made a change that now allows associations to have access to the same group health insurance plans as employers. If your work doesn't offer it or you simply don't like the plan, this gives you another way to shop for competitive plans. Last I heard, this one is still going through the regulatory process, so it'll still take a little time to go into full effect.

    There may be more, but I don't follow him that closely.
    02-17-2018 10:36 AM
  14. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    True but since he's been in office what notable things has he done? I can't think of a single thing.
    Trump is getting Congress to move forward and do things. Partisan ideology has become so focused that people of both parties accepted Congress not doing their jobs.

    It won't happen overnight, but forcing Congressional members to compromise is significant because it hasn't been done for the last 10-12 years. Trump makes both parties upset and that means compromises and progress is being made.
    02-17-2018 08:36 PM
  15. Mooncatt's Avatar
    Trump is getting Congress to move forward and do things. Partisan ideology has become so focused that people of both parties accepted Congress not doing their jobs.

    It won't happen overnight, but forcing Congressional members to compromise is significant because it hasn't been done for the last 10-12 years. Trump makes both parties upset and that means compromises and progress is being made.
    Unfortunately, often times compromise in Congress is:

    One party saying they want to cut off your arm.
    One party saying they'll let you keep your arm.
    Then they both decide to split the difference and just cut it off at the wrist.

    I'll leave it to you to decide which party is which, but most political compromises are still a bad deal in my opinion. It may not be as bad as it could've been, but that doesn't make it a good outcome.
    02-17-2018 09:17 PM
  16. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Unfortunately, often times compromise in Congress is:

    One party saying they want to cut off your arm.
    One party saying they'll let you keep your arm.
    Then they both decide to split the difference and just cut it off at the wrist.

    I'll leave it to you to decide which party is which, but most political compromises are still a bad deal in my opinion. It may not be as bad as it could've been, but that doesn't make it a good outcome.
    When is there ever a good outcome? People’s expectations are to have what they want and no compromises. The general population needs to acknowledge that compromise is necessary and there is no free lunch.
    03-14-2018 12:03 PM
  17. Mooncatt's Avatar
    When is there ever a good outcome? People’s expectations are to have what they want and no compromises. The general population needs to acknowledge that compromise is necessary and there is no free lunch.
    Right now, I would just settle for honest debate and what's best overall. For example, I'm for eliminating the income tax and passing the Fair Tax. One of its defining points is the elimination of the corporate income tax.

    Democrats hate it because they still firmly believe the myth that corporations pay taxes (they don't, and can only collect it from individuals to then pay their bill with) and want to see them pay more. Republicans are still in bed with crony capitalism and want to keep that power to play favorites with the income tax.

    That's just one of many examples about just one issue in government. Both sides hate it, and they use misinformation, if not flat out lies, to try defending their point. And the rest of us keep suffering the income tax as a result. If they would at least have an honest discussion about it, then maybe there could be a chance at compromise... Assuming they can be trusted enough to honor their sides of the deal in the first place.
    03-14-2018 06:48 PM
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