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  1. anon8126715's Avatar
    This is why Oprah Winfrey makes a point that school in the United States is free of charge, unlike in South Africa. It's not beyond the means of Americans.

    Education is the key to success. It's something Oprah Winfrey knows from her own experience.
    You'd have the right wing squawking "SOCIALISM!!" faster than a freshly educated mind can spell GOP.
    05-13-2015 06:35 PM
  2. Scott7217's Avatar
    You'd have the right wing squawking "SOCIALISM!!" faster than a freshly educated mind can spell GOP.
    Then it makes even more sense for Oprah Winfrey to open her leadership academy as a private school.

    Once inner-city children in America show the same desire for learning like South African children do, Oprah might open an academy here. Until then, she'll probably focus her efforts in South Africa.
    05-14-2015 05:28 PM
  3. anon8126715's Avatar
    Then it makes even more sense for Oprah Winfrey to open her leadership academy as a private school.

    Once inner-city children in America show the same desire for learning like South African children do, Oprah might open an academy here. Until then, she'll probably focus her efforts in South Africa.
    The only problem is that those South African kids will most likely face the same racism that other people experience.
    05-14-2015 06:35 PM
  4. Scott7217's Avatar
    The only problem is that those South African kids will most likely face the same racism that other people experience.
    It wouldn't surprise me if Oprah Winfrey factored racism issues into her decision to open a school in South Africa.

    Honestly, I wouldn't mind if she opened two schools, one in South Africa and one in the United States. Would the South African children's desire for learning put them ahead of their American counterparts? It would be interesting to compare the results.
    05-16-2015 01:58 AM
  5. anon8126715's Avatar
    It wouldn't surprise me if Oprah Winfrey factored racism issues into her decision to open a school in South Africa.

    Honestly, I wouldn't mind if she opened two schools, one in South Africa and one in the United States. Would the South African children's desire for learning put them ahead of their American counterparts? It would be interesting to compare the results.
    That experiment is run daily. You have a student athlete that plays out in the middle of nowhere and does well vs one that plays in some inner-city or some sprawling metropolitan area, the kid that lives out in the sticks might perform better because they don't have all the distractions of a big city. I think maybe Oprah went to South Africa because if she tried to open her own secluded school-driven community in the U.S., some people would think she was segregating.
    05-16-2015 01:28 PM
  6. JnEricsonx's Avatar
    Oh I laughed my *** OFF at that clip. Wow, there is NO WAY that can be mis-interpreted.
    05-16-2015 02:26 PM
  7. Scott7217's Avatar
    I think maybe Oprah went to South Africa because if she tried to open her own secluded school-driven community in the U.S., some people would think she was segregating.
    Why would Oprah Winfrey resort to segregation, especially in an educational setting? What benefit would that serve?
    05-18-2015 01:37 AM
  8. Scott7217's Avatar
    My point was about views of black America from an African perspective. Though he does touch on education.
    Pius Adesanmi mentioned the difficulties of communicating using his Nigerian English with African-Americans talking in Ebonics. It seems that proper language skills are vital if people want to be successful in life.
    05-18-2015 02:39 AM
  9. A895's Avatar
    Why would Oprah Winfrey resort to segregation, especially in an educational setting? What benefit would that serve?
    Urban schools are segregated anyways. Black people tend to be in the crap schools in the city. She wouldn't be doing anything that hasn't been done already. And even more, why is it so bad she would focus on black students more?

    Posted via Razr M on the Android Central App
    05-18-2015 06:18 AM
  10. A895's Avatar
    Pius Adesanmi mentioned the difficulties of communicating using his Nigerian English with African-Americans talking in Ebonics. It seems that proper language skills are vital if people want to be successful in life.
    Not really. I can name several millionaires now who can't go a sentence without some slang terms. Or even Floyd Mayweather who can't even read well yet us worth $100s of millions of dollars.

    Posted via Razr M on the Android Central App
    05-18-2015 06:20 AM
  11. anon8126715's Avatar
    Why would Oprah Winfrey resort to segregation, especially in an educational setting? What benefit would that serve?
    Mostly what A895 said below. If Oprah decided to create a city where she could give people of color a better way of life and education, that wouldn't sit well with a lot of people that buy her products and services.


    Urban schools are segregated anyways. Black people tend to be in the crap schools in the city. She wouldn't be doing anything that hasn't been done already. And even more, why is it so bad she would focus on black students more?

    Posted via Razr M on the Android Central App
    That experiment has been around for a long time. Generally, people on the right tend to think that black and hispanic children don't have a capacity to learn and shouldn't get resources that other children get. They don't realize that a child that's brought up in an impoverished neighborhood doesn't have the luxury of food, shelter, and safety being readily and consistently provided to them. How does one then go about making education a priority when basic necessities aren't even available to them?
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    05-18-2015 05:35 PM
  12. A895's Avatar
    Mostly what A895 said below. If Oprah decided to create a city where she could give people of color a better way of life and education, that wouldn't sit well with a lot of people that buy her products and services.




    That experiment has been around for a long time. Generally, people on the right tend to think that black and hispanic children don't have a capacity to learn and shouldn't get resources that other children get. They don't realize that a child that's brought up in an impoverished neighborhood doesn't have the luxury of food, shelter, and safety being readily and consistently provided to them. How does one then go about making education a priority when basic necessities aren't even available to them?
    Exactly. This ties right into poverty which explicitly creates conditions unfavorable for people in it despite how much people think "they just need pull themselves by their bootstraps". If you need to pay bills and you have one of the jobs in house, what are you going to do, help pay bills and miss some school or miss some school and risk getting kicked out or something being cut off?

    I know people who had to drop out because they needed a job right then and there to survive and school nor doesn't pay students home bills. Regardless of how much people say the government gives money away.

    Posted via Razr M on the Android Central App
    05-18-2015 06:08 PM
  13. anon8126715's Avatar
    Exactly. This ties right into poverty which explicitly creates conditions unfavorable for people in it despite how much people think "they just need pull themselves by their bootstraps". If you need to pay bills and you have one of the jobs in house, what are you going to do, help pay bills and miss some school or miss some school and risk getting kicked out or something being cut off?

    I know people who had to drop out because they needed a job right then and there to survive and school nor doesn't pay students home bills. Regardless of how much people say the government gives money away.

    Posted via Razr M on the Android Central App
    You notice the people that tend to say "they just need to pull themselves up by the bootstraps" are ones that generally will never have to deal with any sort of discrimination in their lives, unless you count Bill Cosby. I wonder if he still has the support of all the people that were in his corner when he first chastised his people several years ago.
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    05-18-2015 08:32 PM
  14. Scott7217's Avatar
    She wouldn't be doing anything that hasn't been done already. And even more, why is it so bad she would focus on black students more?
    If Oprah Winfrey wants to open a private school in South Africa because she feels that South African children are more deserving than African-Americans, then that is her right. She is spending her own money. She can use it any way she wants to.

    Therefore, we would agree that Oprah Winfrey can exclude African-Americans and bestow preferential treatment to South Africans.
    05-18-2015 10:23 PM
  15. A895's Avatar
    If Oprah Winfrey wants to open a private school in South Africa because she feels that South African children are more deserving than African-Americans, then that is her right. She is spending her own money. She can use it any way she wants to.

    Therefore, we would agree that Oprah Winfrey can exclude African-Americans and bestow preferential treatment to South Africans.
    That's fine. But I thought you were saying it would be wrong to do it here?

    Posted via Razr M on the Android Central App
    05-18-2015 10:59 PM
  16. Scott7217's Avatar
    That's fine. But I thought you were saying it would be wrong to do it here?
    In post #104, I said the following about Oprah Winfrey and her schools:

    "Honestly, I wouldn't mind if she opened two schools, one in South Africa and one in the United States."

    Perhaps you're referring to someone else's post?
    05-18-2015 11:19 PM
  17. Scott7217's Avatar
    Not really. I can name several millionaires now who can't go a sentence without some slang terms.
    It is important to see what people have done to become successful. What are the names of these millionaires?
    05-21-2015 01:49 PM
  18. A895's Avatar
    It is important to see what people have done to become successful. What are the names of these millionaires?
    Kevin Gates is one, and I can't understand most of what he says. And that can be repeated for most southern rappers. Their slang and accent is so thick that if you don't have previous experience with black southern talk, you won't understand a word. Hell, Floyd Mayweather uses slang and can't read well.

    The list goes on. Vernacular isn't that important to millionaire status. What makes people a millionaire is being lucky, knowing the right people and putting themselves out there.

    Posted via Razr M on the Android Central App
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    05-21-2015 04:32 PM
  19. Mooncatt's Avatar
    What makes people a millionaire is being lucky, knowing the right people and putting themselves out there.
    I consider luck to be when preparation meets opportunity. So in that context, I would agree with you. And the harder people work, the luckier they tend to be.
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    05-21-2015 04:57 PM
  20. Scott7217's Avatar
    What makes people a millionaire is being lucky, knowing the right people and putting themselves out there.
    I can see other people following this and becoming successful, too.
    05-21-2015 05:02 PM
  21. A895's Avatar
    I consider luck to be when preparation meets opportunity. So in that context, I would agree with you. And the harder people work, the luckier they tend to be.
    Not always. There are a lot o hard workers who aren't successful. For every person that does become successful there are a hundred other people who didn't make it, or life got in the way. It happens and it happens often. Opportunities are in short supply in many places.

    Posted via Razr M on the Android Central App
    05-21-2015 05:09 PM
  22. A895's Avatar
    I can see other people following this and becoming successful, too.
    Luck is about 90% of it though. Luck is what got me to where I am so that is one example.

    Posted via Razr M on the Android Central App
    05-21-2015 05:10 PM
  23. Scott7217's Avatar
    Here's an update on the situation in Baltimore:

    CNN -- Freddie Gray death: Grand jury indicts police officers (article link)
    05-21-2015 06:13 PM
  24. philsnewsstuff's Avatar
    Does anyone know what happened to the Deputy Marshal?
    02-10-2016 09:06 PM
  25. Javarod's Avatar
    Why cities have allowed this when it is literally costing them millions of dollars in lawsuits against them is a mystery to me.
    Actually it might not cost as much as you think, many cities have insurance that covers this kind of stuff.
    04-04-2016 07:43 AM
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