12-28-2019 04:37 PM
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  1. TechTimid's Avatar
    Especially since the last USA presidential election, I've heard and read online of many people who no longer associate with certain relatives or friends due to their political views.

    For example, for holiday gatherings like Thanksgiving dinner, some who were always present were now uninvited.

    I've never been a very political person, although I always vote. I am unaffiliated. I don't ever recall when I was young that anyone in my family discussed politics at dinner or family gatherings. I honestly am not sure what party my parents belonged to and who they voted for. The first election I even acknowledged as a child was for John F. Kennedy.

    I rarely, if ever, talk about politics with friends or neighbors either. Have you had anyone shun you due to your political opinions?

    Have you separated yourself from a friend or family member because you don't like their political party or views? Are you tolerant of other people's views even if you disagree with them?
    01-20-2019 11:16 AM
  2. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    It's my full and honest opinion that there is nothing more anti American than attacking or disowning your family or fellow American for different political views.
    01-20-2019 11:41 AM
  3. TechTimid's Avatar
    It's my full and honest opinion that there is nothing more anti American than attacking or disowning your family or fellow American for different political views.
    I agree, giving politics that much power is not reasonable when it comes to relationships with other people.
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    01-20-2019 06:30 PM
  4. Mooncatt's Avatar
    It's my full and honest opinion that there is nothing more anti American than attacking or disowning your family or fellow American for different political views.
    I'm gonna have to remember that one.

    I haven't really distanced myself from anyone for differing views. Heck, I enjoy civilized debate. Thankfully the company I keep does remain civil even when we disagree. I have had people cut me from their life for my views, and they have my pity. If you go around only listening to an echo chamber of opinion, you'll remain a very ignorant person.
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    02-18-2019 08:22 PM
  5. skittler23's Avatar
    Yes I have especially when that's all they talk about or post on social media. I had to take an uncle off my Facebook because all he did was argue about Trump and couldn't handle anything negative said about him. It's become almost like a cult and I can see why someone wouldn't want that negativity in their lives.
    06-20-2019 02:18 AM
  6. Vega007's Avatar
    If you go around only listening to an echo chamber of opinion, you'll remain a very ignorant person.
    Exactly this.


    It's become almost like a cult and I can see why someone wouldn't want that negativity in their lives.
    Also agreed. People can take it too far, just like the people who are 100% negative on everything Trump does. You have to look at everything objectively but instead people seem to use emotion rather than practical thought.
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    06-27-2019 11:19 AM
  7. Golurk's Avatar

    People can take it too far, just like the people who are 100% negative on everything Trump does. You have to look at everything objectively but instead people seem to use emotion rather than practical thought.
    Twitter is even worse...the moment you say anything remotely controversial an army of twitter users descends to insult and threaten you
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    08-20-2019 01:10 PM
  8. Vega007's Avatar
    Twitter is even worse...the moment you say anything remotely controversial an army of twitter users descends to insult and threaten you
    I have deleted my Twitter account because I refuse to be part of such a toxic place for humanity. There is no positivity on Twitter - everyone wants to be contrary, ugly, and filled with hate.
    08-20-2019 02:34 PM
  9. Mooncatt's Avatar
    I never was a Twit.
    08-20-2019 02:41 PM
  10. Golurk's Avatar
    Lol
    09-08-2019 08:22 AM
  11. Javier P's Avatar
    Discussing about politics is good, necessary and even healthy. I love it even knowing that it can result in tense dinners with relatives and friends. But I don't see the actual situation as a political confrontation, it's something else. Similar problem is happening in the US, Brazil, where I live, and in many other countries. It's a moral discussion or at least this is how I see it.

    You can't paint sexism, misogyny, ignorance, bigotry or plain racism as a political discussion. I'm always happy to discuss about different political views but I can't be quiet when what I take as basic human decency is destroyed on a daily basis with so many people ignoring how dangerous this can be.
    09-08-2019 02:21 PM
  12. ptkelly's Avatar
    Family, no. Friends, no, but I have friends were we simply don't discuss cerrtain topics. I had a dear friend who's dead now and he had to agree to no more discussions of the three G's: gays, gods, and guns.

    Acquaintances, you bet. There is a local private library that was a social center for me but since the leftists have taken over I simply no longer go there. I was having coffee one day and at the next table to people were asking each other questions about conservatives and Republicans and the answers were all, I don't know, I can't imagine, who knows. I finally turned around and said, "Have you ever considered asking a conservative those questions so you actually get an answer?" Apparently not. They both got up and left.

    My neighbor carries a bag that says "**** Trump" and she'd be greated with open arms. Wear a MAGA hat and get thrown out. So, I mind my own business and enjoy myself. I spend my time now taking photos with my Huawei P30 pro.
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    11-27-2019 04:37 PM
  13. Ry's Avatar
    If you can't be friendly with the other side, you're doing it wrong.
    11-27-2019 06:26 PM
  14. Morty2264's Avatar
    I just don't discuss politics with anyone. Luckily, my husband, immediate family and I all share fairly similar views, so that's a comforting feeling. But when I'm at work and with other relatives, I rarely speak my mind. Politics are becoming more and more vicious with each passing year. And having dual citizenship, I care about both elections/countries equally.
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    11-27-2019 07:27 PM
  15. Golurk's Avatar
    If you can't be friendly with the other side, you're doing it wrong.
    This applies to many other areas in life as well (e.g simple disagreements)...those with opposing viewpoints should at least attempt to be civil with each other. Unfortunately, this rarely occurs.
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    11-28-2019 03:25 PM
  16. ptkelly's Avatar
    If you can't be friendly with the other side, you're doing it wrong.
    When people quite literally scream in your face...screw friendly.
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    11-30-2019 09:56 AM
  17. Mooncatt's Avatar
    When people quite literally scream in your face...screw friendly.
    That just means they are doing it wrong, not you. Unless you then stoop to their level.
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    11-30-2019 10:05 AM
  18. ptkelly's Avatar
    That just means they are doing it wrong, not you. Unless you then stoop to their level.
    Sorry, Mooncatt, but my opinion is that if you keep talking to someone who is out of control, then you are a fool. I don't get angry and yell but I turn, quite abruptly, and ignore the person. If I need to put distance, I do. I don't raise my voice, I don't get red in the face, I don't spray salivia, I don't babble. In short, I don't act like the person ranting.

    So, I certainy don't mind if you continue to talk to fools but if I were in a restaurant and someone wanted to scream at me for a political t-shirt I was wearing, I would ignore. Then wouldn't be there. You will engage Maxine Waters in a discussion that she's directing. I won't.
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    11-30-2019 10:32 AM
  19. Mooncatt's Avatar
    Sorry, Mooncatt, but my opinion is that if you keep talking to someone who is out of control, then you are a fool. I don't get angry and yell but I turn, quite abruptly, and ignore the person. If I need to put distance, I do. I don't raise my voice, I don't get red in the face, I don't spray salivia, I don't babble. In short, I don't act like the person ranting.

    So, I certainy don't mind if you continue to talk to fools but if I were in a restaurant and someone wanted to scream at me for a political t-shirt I was wearing, I would ignore. Then wouldn't be there. You will engage Maxine Waters in a discussion that she's directing. I won't.
    I think you misunderstood me. I didn't say you had to keep talking with those kinds of people. What I meant was *if* you chose to do so, be civil in your actions despite their lunacy.
    11-30-2019 10:43 AM
  20. Javier P's Avatar
    Sorry, Mooncatt, but my opinion is that if you keep talking to someone who is out of control, then you are a fool. I don't get angry and yell but I turn, quite abruptly, and ignore the person. If I need to put distance, I do. I don't raise my voice, I don't get red in the face, I don't spray salivia, I don't babble. In short, I don't act like the person ranting.

    So, I certainy don't mind if you continue to talk to fools but if I were in a restaurant and someone wanted to scream at me for a political t-shirt I was wearing, I would ignore. Then wouldn't be there. You will engage Maxine Waters in a discussion that she's directing. I won't.
    The problem I see there is that you are only talking about general and hypothetical things. They sound about right but there's no way to know what you're talking about or what you consider political. Maybe you were facing nutcases that must be ignored or maybe what you consider "political" is moral or ethically offensive for other people.

    I'm not judging here, I'm just saying that what you said doesn't include ... many details
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    11-30-2019 01:38 PM
  21. Golurk's Avatar
    The problem I see there is that you are only talking about general and hypothetical things. They sound about right but there's no way to know what you're talking about or what you consider political. Maybe you were facing nutcases that must be ignored or maybe what you consider "political" is moral or ethically offensive for other people.

    I'm not judging here, I'm just saying that what you said doesn't include ... many details
    Unfortunately what you say is true. There will be always certain values or ideas that, however we or even the UN might feel are justified (e.g certain human rights) will be disagreed with or ‘offend’ some people.

    But when you have a situation where (hypothetically) one is standing up for something like the right for girls/women to have an education (which some individuals still consider unreasonable or taboo) and somebody finds that offensive, shouldn’t something as righteous and justified as that override the feelings of offense?

    That in itself then triggers the debate on ‘where do you draw the line between right and wrong and why’. What is considered acceptable and right in some Western countries is called unreasonable and wrong in others.

    It kinda sucks >_<
    12-01-2019 05:36 AM
  22. vimagreg's Avatar
    Discussing about politics is good, necessary and even healthy. I love it even knowing that it can result in tense dinners with relatives and friends. But I don't see the actual situation as a political confrontation, it's something else. Similar problem is happening in the US, Brazil, where I live, and in many other countries. It's a moral discussion or at least this is how I see it.

    You can't paint sexism, misogyny, ignorance, bigotry or plain racism as a political discussion. I'm always happy to discuss about different political views but I can't be quiet when what I take as basic human decency is destroyed on a daily basis with so many people ignoring how dangerous this can be.
    THIS.

    I unfortunately live in Brazil as well and, yes, I got distance for a lot of a people since 2018. Politics is one thing, human decency, another. Fortunately all my family members (that ones I do care) are decent people. Same cannot be said about my wife's family. Today, for me, it's hard even to make friends as I tend to think they support... Er... I prefer not even to write his cursed name.
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    12-01-2019 08:59 AM
  23. vimagreg's Avatar
    This applies to many other areas in life as well (e.g simple disagreements)...those with opposing viewpoints should at least attempt to be civil with each other. Unfortunately, this rarely occurs.
    Yes, I agree with it. But... What can we do when the other side is not even occupied in pretending to be respectful with you? Hard times...
    12-01-2019 09:01 AM
  24. Mooncatt's Avatar
    Politics is one thing, human decency, another.
    More and more, people are equating the two as one. I.e. If you don't have the same political view as them on a given subject, to them you are trash and don't deserve to live.
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    12-01-2019 09:12 AM
  25. Golurk's Avatar
    More and more, people are equating the two as one. I.e. If you don't have the same political view as them on a given subject, to them you are trash and don't deserve to live.
    Saw this happening a lot in the recent UK election, unfortunately.
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    12-22-2019 05:20 AM
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