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  1. Javier P's Avatar
    You mention "free speech spaces" at universities. Shouldn't whole campus have free speech LOL
    A quick comment about that last tweet that I commented where Muslims were blamed for the Australian fires.

    The two adolescents mentioned in that hateful thread had their names and pictures posted. They were arrested in Parramatta/Australia after some fireworks that they were playing with set some grass on fire in a park. The fire was quickly contained and no big damage was done.

    I have no words for people that try to push their hateful and disgusting agenda using such a terrible tragedy as the Australian fires.

    All this information can be easily found, including the police report. I'd recommend you to filter and investigate your information a bit more, for your own peace of mind and for the kind of misinformation that you share.
    01-16-2020 03:12 PM
  2. Mooncatt's Avatar
    Apparently I misunderstood what you were trying to get it. So be it. I will address this, though:

    About healthcare. You say that it's a service and not a right, that's fine, that's your ideological/political point of view. In another place that could make for a good discussion between people with different opinions, like me, but that's not the point. Unless you agree with the OP that public health is a socialist/communist free crap your personal opinion is not related with what I said and even less with the actual and historical facts that I mentioned.
    It is not an ideological opinion. It is a fact that healthcare is a service. Unless you are saying that people are able to get treatments and prescriptions somehow WITHOUT employing the services of others?

    Believing that healthcare services should be a right, or taxpayer funded, that would be an ideological opinion. You talked about the conservatives trying to change definitions, but guess what is happening when people call services like healthcare a "right." Don't get me wrong, I'm not against some forms of government assistance and rules like how you can't be turned away from the ER for emergency issues (the problem of people going to the ER for non-emergent issues is another story). But I'm not so confused as to consider it a right by any definition.

    Most of the redefining of terms seems to come from our political left. Another popular example is their vague made up definition of an "assault weapon." I'm now often seeing that further bastardized into "assault rifles," which is an already existing term with an already established legal definition. Assault weapons are basically defined as a scary looking gun. If you don't believe me, I can point you to some examples of what is and isn't one. An assault rifle is a military rifle with full auto fire capabilities.
    01-16-2020 06:26 PM
  3. Javier P's Avatar
    Apparently I misunderstood what you were trying to get it. So be it. I will address this, though:



    It is not an ideological opinion. It is a fact that healthcare is a service. Unless you are saying that people are able to get treatments and prescriptions somehow WITHOUT employing the services of others?

    Believing that healthcare services should be a right, or taxpayer funded, that would be an ideological opinion. You talked about the conservatives trying to change definitions, but guess what is happening when people call services like healthcare a "right." Don't get me wrong, I'm not against some forms of government assistance and rules like how you can't be turned away from the ER for emergency issues (the problem of people going to the ER for non-emergent issues is another story). But I'm not so confused as to consider it a right by any definition.

    Most of the redefining of terms seems to come from our political left. Another popular example is their vague made up definition of an "assault weapon." I'm now often seeing that further bastardized into "assault rifles," which is an already existing term with an already established legal definition. Assault weapons are basically defined as a scary looking gun. If you don't believe me, I can point you to some examples of what is and isn't one. An assault rifle is a military rifle with full auto fire capabilities.
    Defining the healthcare as a right is related to my first post that you quoted. There, answering to the OP claims, I pointed out that in many countries public healthcare is a constitutional right, with no distinction between right and left ideology, which is a fact. The discussion about if this public service should be cancelled or maintained is a different one, mostly political, that maybe we could open in a different place. So my original point was that the public healthcare services were a constitutional right and not a socialist free crap as stated on the OP.

    About the guns. To be honest that's not a discussion that I want to have here, sorry. Since you didn't mention what I said on my reply I would assume that you agree with me.
    01-16-2020 06:50 PM
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