1. George Wood1's Avatar
    I just want a true Moto flagship, no mods for me. Moto X and Motorola Droid Turbo... Those were the days.
    maxman1 likes this.
    06-05-2019 07:43 PM
  2. Scott337's Avatar
    I owned both of those phones and they were great, along with many many other Moto phones. I think the Z4 might be great also, or at least really good. As others have stated..true "flagship" phones aren't selling really good right now for anyone. But the $500 and under range is selling great. Moto recognizes that, so why make a "flagship" > $700 + phone? As others have posted they are selling great in Latin America and India. They are finally profitable under Lenovo, so why change the business model that is working.

    I hope this trend in "flagship" phones not selling well for anyone (even the mighty Samsung) forces all manufacturers to reconsider their pricing and stop the price increases year after year. Who the heck needs to spend $1000 or more on a phone? A phone?
    maxman1 likes this.
    06-05-2019 08:03 PM
  3. omullins's Avatar
    I feel like it should be 50-100 bucks cheaper... sucks Verizon customers are the only ones who can get a better deal, and the white version of the device.

    That said, I plan to buy it. I'm still using my original Moto Z Play, and I'm bought into (and love) the Mod system. I don't need a flagship device (nor do I want to spend almost 1k on one). So I think the Z4 will work for me.
    06-06-2019 08:59 AM
  4. Scott337's Avatar
    The unlocked version for $499 comes with the 360 Camera Mod. So that's not a bad deal for folks that get the phone and camera bundled together. And if they don't want the Camera Mod they could always sell it.
    maxman1 likes this.
    06-06-2019 09:10 AM
  5. AllenRulz's Avatar
    I'm seriously stuck and don't know whether to upgrade my Moto Z Play (first edition) to the Z4 or wait until the Asus Zenfone 6 comes to the US. But now I read some thing about asus not allowing the branding for Zenfone so idk what's up with that situation.
    06-06-2019 12:47 PM
  6. Ry's Avatar
    I'm down with it.
    maxman1 likes this.
    06-06-2019 02:02 PM
  7. Ry's Avatar
    I just want a true Moto flagship, no mods for me. Moto X and Motorola Droid Turbo... Those were the days.
    That's not where the money is so Moto's being smart not playing in that space right now. They're finally making money by putting out great "mid-range" devices.
    Scott337 and experiment 626 like this.
    06-06-2019 02:04 PM
  8. AllenRulz's Avatar
    I'm down with it.
    Would you choose Asus ZenFone or Moto Z4? Lol.
    06-06-2019 03:32 PM
  9. Scott337's Avatar
    Moto Z4
    maxman1 likes this.
    06-07-2019 05:55 PM
  10. xeene's Avatar
    Side Note: The thing that seems to perplex her about Android is the choices, so many different ways to do the same thing. She's been locked down so long the freedom to choose is confusing.
    That was my EXACT feeling when I moved from USSR to USA.
    maxman1 and benjamminh like this.
    06-10-2019 12:29 PM
  11. benjamminh's Avatar
    The only thing that has surprised me from some reviews are complaints about it not being smooth which would be unusual. Then other reviews don't mention that.
    06-11-2019 12:40 PM
  12. xeene's Avatar
    It's probably not as smooth as something that's running sd 855 during stress test in lab environment, but in day to day daily tasks I haven't noticed even a miniscule hickup due to lack of power.
    benjamminh likes this.
    06-11-2019 01:10 PM
  13. benjamminh's Avatar
    <How do you like it so far?
    06-11-2019 01:53 PM
  14. xeene's Avatar
    Coming from z play, it's the best phone in the world! The major improvement I noticed is screen size, camera quality and speaker volume. The battery size only increased by 100mah but this phone lasts me about 30% longer on single charge then my 3 year old z play, still much better then smaller 3k batteries in z2 and z3.

    Now just hope someone makes a bumper case for it so it can be protected while allowing mod changes. For now I bought a cheap $3 tpu case on Amazon and cut out the back to make a bumper out of it but tpu is too soft and sides flex a lot. Even then the 360 camera is unusable with a bumper. So if you want those 360° pictures you got to risk being naked.
    06-11-2019 02:01 PM
  15. benjamminh's Avatar
    Usually Verizon is pretty good about releasing a bumper case so hopefully they will. I would think that would be a big upgrade. Congrats!
    xeene likes this.
    06-11-2019 02:08 PM
  16. xeene's Avatar
    Here is the new camera's night mode(no flash) compared to previous models. All setting are on auto with flash disabled.
    Moto z4


    Moto z3 play


    Moto z play
    benjamminh likes this.
    06-11-2019 09:02 PM
  17. benjamminh's Avatar
    Probably not in the Pixel Night sight category but I'm glad they're doing something.
    06-11-2019 09:47 PM
  18. Scott337's Avatar
    I'm surprised there still isn't a Moto Z4 section here under the Motorola Phones category.
    benjamminh likes this.
    06-12-2019 09:05 AM
  19. Scott337's Avatar
    I just ordered my new Z4 from Verizon. As was rumored, they offered it for $299 online if you have an upgrade available or a new line. I'll take a brand new phone for $299. I will pick it up in store later today.
    06-13-2019 09:26 AM
  20. dsw1519's Avatar
    I just ordered my new Z4 from Verizon. As was rumored, they offered it for $299 online if you have an upgrade available or a new line. I'll take a brand new phone for $299. I will pick it up in store later today.
    Thanks for the heads up. At $299 this is a no brainer for me.
    06-13-2019 10:12 AM
  21. Scott337's Avatar
    Thanks for the heads up. At $299 this is a no brainer for me.
    You're welcome. I believe that $299 price is for online orders only though, and then you can pick up in a store or have it shipped. And of course it's not true $299......it will be $299 at the end of all payments once the monthly bill discount kicks in. I'm not sure what the in store price is.
    06-13-2019 10:16 AM
  22. benjamminh's Avatar
    I played with it again in Best Buy and it was meh. Unless the camera is shown to be superior to the Z3 there's not much difference. Some smaller bezels and a stretched screen. If Black Friday brings it to $5-10 a month I might reconsider.
    06-13-2019 11:41 AM
  23. benjamminh's Avatar
    Since I have the Google camera port on the Z3 I do have improved low light shots as compared to the stock camera app
    06-13-2019 11:42 AM
  24. benjamminh's Avatar
    $240 from Best Buy without being stuck with monthly bill credits is tempting. Of course Verizon charges a $40 upgrade fee which is pure profit for them.
    06-16-2019 03:23 PM
  25. Scott337's Avatar
    That "upgrade fee" is ridiculous. They used to waive it for me....but not anymore
    benjamminh and maxman1 like this.
    06-16-2019 03:28 PM
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