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  1. benjamminh's Avatar
    On Twitter someone from Moto claims two major OS updates and three years of monthly security updates. If true, that would be very helpful. I'm not so hung up on security updates as long as one doesn't go on shady websites. At least that's been my experience.

    I have to say the camera comparison shots on youtube are pretty impressive but of course it's better to wait on actual reviews to have a better idea of camera quality.
    04-28-2020 08:49 PM
  2. Ry's Avatar
    On Twitter someone from Moto claims two major OS updates and three years of monthly security updates. If true, that would be very helpful. I'm not so hung up on security updates as long as one doesn't go on shady websites. At least that's been my experience.

    I have to say the camera comparison shots on youtube are pretty impressive but of course it's better to wait on actual reviews to have a better idea of camera quality.
    I'll believe it when I see it.


    https://www.androidcentral.com/ac-po...-moto-g-stylus

    Doug Michau, executive director of North American business development at Motorola, was on the Android Central podcast and said 1 major OS update. Granted the topic was the low-end Moto G line but still... Seems like that's across the board at current Motorola.
    04-28-2020 10:40 PM
  3. bhatech's Avatar
    Updates, Good camera, Motorola - they all don't get along each other
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    04-28-2020 10:49 PM
  4. benjamminh's Avatar
    Many full reviews are out this morning and are what we expected. The edge plus screen is gimmicky, cameras are good, but not the best, questions about the promised update schedule, etc. I'm still of the belief that it will likely be discounted later in the year significantly and at that point might be a good value. Right now the OnePlus 8 Pro has more advantages without a doubt.
    04-30-2020 10:52 AM
  5. bhatech's Avatar
    Many full reviews are out this morning and are what we expected. The edge plus screen is gimmicky, cameras are good, but not the best, questions about the promised update schedule, etc. I'm still of the belief that it will likely be discounted later in the year significantly and at that point might be a good value. Right now the OnePlus 8 Pro has more advantages without a doubt.
    Yep nothing surprising about the reviews and honestly I thought the camera will be much more worse. Looks like they have atleast got some of their act together. Yeah not much appealing reason to get this phone but both Motorola/Verizon probably already knows that and the sales channel strategy will most likely go like this. Unsuspecting costumer walks into Verizon store and asks to recommend me a phone. Sales rep here we have the best phone we can sell which is the Motorola Edge+ and we will throw in some usual trade in prices and other good discounts. And the gimmicky edge display will help in selling the phone at store shelves because it looks cool. As MKBHD says prime example of form over function.
    04-30-2020 11:17 AM
  6. KeithLa's Avatar
    Further disappointing confirmations in these reviews: No IP rating/ waterproofing, 1080p very poor 5G coverage, no face unlock, no microSD.

    Camera sounds unexciting.

    Surprisingly, the Edge Touch controls sound useful, but no more so than the One Button Nav I love on my Z2F right now (I'm really not looking forward to giving that up for any new phone, Moto or otherwise).

    Again, very disappointed by Moto and Verizon. I guess what I really want is a waterproof Z2F with better low light camera, full stop. Edge+ adds nothing I really want, and loses what I appreciate most on Z2F (QHD, microSD, touch nav, front flash, and even Show Me voice control).

    Fwiw, I'm now keeping my eye out for the TCL 10 Pro reviews coming soon, would still sacrifice what I love on Z2F, but not spending $1K to do it.
    04-30-2020 11:56 AM
  7. elvee68's Avatar
    I don't listen to most reviewers anymore just like I don't go to AC's main page because it's all about the clicks.

    That being said, the Wife really wants this phone so I guess I am getting one too but I'm still hanging on to my Pixel.

    As far as the 5g thing goes, I subcontract in underground locating for Verizon and at least in my area Verizon is pouring in a ton of money into getting 5g going this summer.

    Everyone is having a fit over the FHD screen for the price, know what that tells me? Mad battery life.

    But above all else only enthusiast care about that it is not as good as Samsung, Apple or even One Plus. Even if it was...the sheep will stay with the flock...
    05-06-2020 05:49 PM
  8. KeithLa's Avatar
    I don't listen to most reviewers anymore just like I don't go to AC's main page because it's all about the clicks.

    I hear you on that, recall Z2 Force reviews being pretty misleading for what turned out to be an excellent, (almost) price-worthy flagship, across the board. Back then, reviewers piled on complaining about Z2F having smaller battery than first gen Z, even though it wound up delivering longer battery life overall. They also got needlessly wrapped around the axel that Z2F was too thin and "hard to hold", not catching on that it's actually an ideal size/weight with either a protector case or mod attached.

    As far as the 5g thing goes, I subcontract in underground locating for Verizon and at least in my area Verizon is pouring in a ton of money into getting 5g going this summer.
    What seems to be missed in 5G reporting is that Verizon's mmwave focus has more to do with fixed residential service, competing with cable and fiber. Coverage where we're typically not on wifi beyond our neighborhoods, incl. large public spaces, transit, shopping centers, parks, etc. could be a long time coming.

    Everyone is having a fit over the FHD screen for the price, know what that tells me? Mad battery life...
    I hear you on this, too, in fact my first ever Moto, the Verizon Droid Maxx, was a great example of well balanced design, where a lower res screen and mid-grade processor provided great battery life, for its time, and perfectly good performance.

    Still, I'll need to see the Edge+ 1080p with my own eyes before I'm a believer, since the smooth, crisp look of my Z2F QHD+ screen is something I still appreciate, every day.

    But above all else only enthusiast care about that it is not as good as Samsung, Apple or even One Plus. Even if it was...the sheep will stay with the flock...
    I dunno how true this is, the feature gap now seems to be a lot bigger now for Edge+ vs. current flagships, and risks disheartening and casting off premium Moto / Verizon Droid fans like me. $999 feels like not enough of a "discount" vs. $1100 to sacrifice what are now flagship table stakes like waterproofing, face unlock, and low light camera performance. And why oh why would I want to submit to 60 days of Verizon SIM lock, plus 2 year device payment plan?

    That said: Verizon, if you're listening, an awesome upgrade promotion out of the gate might still entice me to give Edge+ a try, but it's gotta be more than a token discount...
    05-07-2020 01:08 AM
  9. benjamminh's Avatar
    So it looks like Motorola has been shamed to promise two OS updates for the Edge Plus. Now let's see how quickly that happens over time. It does make the phone more interesting, even with some warts. https://www.droid-life.com/2020/05/1...ates-for-edge/
    05-12-2020 09:14 AM
  10. Ry's Avatar
    So it looks like Motorola has been shamed to promise two OS updates for the Edge Plus. Now let's see how quickly that happens over time. It does make the phone more interesting, even with some warts. https://www.droid-life.com/2020/05/1...ates-for-edge/
    we'lll see.
    05-12-2020 12:03 PM
  11. Ry's Avatar
    Further disappointing confirmations in these reviews: No IP rating/ waterproofing, 1080p very poor 5G coverage, no face unlock, no microSD.
    Hmm. Not sure why the no IP rating needed confirmation. All the initial hands-ons referred to Moto's nanocoating. Also - water resistance isn't water proof.

    1080p? That's not a surprise from the initial looks.

    Poor 5G coverage? I mean, that's on Verizon so...?

    No face unlock, no micro SD - pretty sure that was on the initial hands-ons as well.

    Camera sounds unexciting.
    I mean, it seems like it's finally keeping up with Samsung now - outside of zoom. And in some cases had as-good if not better low-light, night-mode shots than Pixel in some of the reviews I saw.
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    05-12-2020 12:08 PM
  12. KeithLa's Avatar
    I mean, it seems like it's finally keeping up with Samsung now - outside of zoom. And in some cases had as-good if not better low-light, night-mode shots than Pixel in some of the reviews I saw.
    Can you please point us to some of those reviews? I feel like I'm reading most/all reviews as they appear in my feed, but may be missing some. All the hands-on I've read so far have called out Edge+ low-light and night-mode as relative weaknesses vs. strengths.

    As for my remark that recent reviews have confirmed some disappointments, here's why I said that...

    Re: water rating, at least one pre-hands-on report (e.g. Anandtech) on last month's Moto announcement stated IP68 rating, while others indicated uncertainty and awaiting Motorola clarification. I'm happ(ier) to now read Moto is describing it as having been "tested to IP68 standards", and describing new gaskets that (I think) intend to imply Edge+ is more water resistant than my Z2F.

    Re: 5G, multiple reviews I read muddied the waters by excitedly reporting Edge and Edge+ both support 5G sub-6, while neglecting to clarify that Verizon's 5G network is exclusively mmWave based right now (sub-6 rollout coming).

    Re: microSD, at least one early hands-on (e.g. TechRadar) inaccurately reported there is a microSD slot.
    05-12-2020 12:54 PM
  13. Ry's Avatar
    Can you please point us to some of those reviews? I feel like I'm reading most/all reviews as they appear in my feed, but may be missing some. All the hands-on I've read so far have called out Edge+ low-light and night-mode as relative weaknesses vs. strengths.
    Based on these, I feel like the Motorola Moto Edge+ can hang with the current crop of flagships.







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    05-12-2020 02:23 PM
  14. benjamminh's Avatar
    This might be a fun phone to get if there is a huge Black Friday/Cyber Monday deal. Of course at that point people may be looking to the 2021 phones.
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    05-12-2020 05:17 PM
  15. Ry's Avatar
    This might be a fun phone to get if there is a huge Black Friday/Cyber Monday deal. Of course at that point people may be looking to the 2021 phones.
    Maybe a Best Buy deal/glitch like how folks got the Moto Z4 for $0.83/month AND a $10 bill credit?
    05-12-2020 05:48 PM
  16. KeithLa's Avatar
    Based on these, I feel like the Motorola Moto Edge+ can hang with the current crop of flagships.
    Hmmm, watched all four of those, and while I wouldn't say those reviewers loved the camera (#3 referring to it as "good not great"), I agree with you that the several low light and night mode shots looked comparable (though it's always hard to compare photos in YouTube video reviews).

    Beyond the camera, all of these reviewers sounded lukewarm on overall product value vs. other flagships, and none were favorable to the waterfall display.
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    05-12-2020 06:30 PM
  17. KeithLa's Avatar
    Has anyone purchased one of these yet, have early impressions after a few days/week+?

    Also FYI, $200 promotion started at Verizon today, I'm told runs to June (not sure exact end date). Doesn't require new line, trade-in, or unlimited plan, but does require 24 month device payment plan, with the credit paid out $8.33/month.

    Ry, is a dedicated forum for this new phone coming soon?
    05-21-2020 07:13 PM
  18. Ry's Avatar
    Ry, is a dedicated forum for this new phone coming soon?
    Spoiler alert - we're tweaking some things with the forums and you'll see some consolidation.
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    05-21-2020 07:28 PM
  19. elvee68's Avatar
    Has anyone purchased one of these yet, have early impressions after a few days/week+?

    Also FYI, $200 promotion started at Verizon today, I'm told runs to June (not sure exact end date). Doesn't require new line, trade-in, or unlimited plan, but does require 24 month device payment plan, with the credit paid out $8.33/month.

    Ry, is a dedicated forum for this new phone coming soon?
    My Wife has had hers almost a week now and she can't put it down, she loves it that much.
    With the limited time she has let me play with it, I gotta say the FHD display is really nice to look at and it feels really good in the hand. A good weight too.
    I was a little questionable about the edges with false touches etc, but with the OtterBox case on there is enough lip on the sides where that is not much of a problem with me anyway.

    I saw the $200 promotion last night and might be a little tempted to get one for myself.

    Wow! Someone switching to Verizon could potentially get one for $100 right now.
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    05-22-2020 05:06 AM
  20. KeithLa's Avatar
    Wow! Someone switching to Verizon could potentially get one for $100 right now.
    Which makes clear how overpriced both either this phone and/or Verizon service is, I'd say. Seriously, this $999 retail price is the same buffered retail pricing game they played on Z2F launch back in 2017, in order to apply promotions to add and extend those lucrative monthly plans.

    On that note, I just learned my 3-line household can save ~$150/year by switching to a business plan, but then doesn't qualify for $150 trade-in promotion (but is eligible for the $200 discount). Crazy games! TMO is much simpler and could save us $250/year (!), but no Moto Edge+, of course (Unless: Can I buy Edge+ at full retail price, and just take it to TMO??).
    05-22-2020 03:28 PM
  21. beeare's Avatar
    I've had mine for 3 days so far, and I'm extremely impressed, especially coming off a languishing 4 year old Moto Z-force, which happened to literally, conveniently take it's last breath on the same day (within a few hours) this gem arrived, just before I had a chance to transfer everything over.

    That being said, everything about this phone is top notch. The cameras are excellent, the screen is beautiful, it's blazing fast and smooth, and the BATTERY LIFE is next level compared to any other smartphone I've ever used (generally the feature I look for at the top of my criteria for any new phone).

    Here are some quick photos as well for the hell of it...Motorola Edge Plus-img_20200521_123249100_hdr.jpegMotorola Edge Plus-img_20200521_123401208-01.jpegMotorola Edge Plus-img_20200520_211035631_hdr.jpegMotorola Edge Plus-img_20200520_210944436.jpeg
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    05-22-2020 08:22 PM
  22. KeithLa's Avatar
    The cameras are excellent, the screen is beautiful, it's blazing fast and smooth, and the BATTERY LIFE is next level compared to any other smartphone I've ever used (generally the feature I look for at the top of my criteria for any new phone).
    Thanks Beeare, sorry you weren't able to transfer from your Z Force, did you not have Google Backup enabled?

    Despite my skeptical remarks above, I couldn't resist today and purchased Edge+, sitting here now in first-run setup hell, hitting multiple problems, after having had to factory reset and start over after it (not me) forgot my four digit PIN, preventing me from logging in after restart. Now, it seems stuck at "Please wait..." after initial Google account log in. Perhaps it's just taking a long time to transfer my initial settings/apps/SMS from Google Backup, but I thought happened in background.

    My purchase experience wasn't easy, either, myVerizon app couldn't complete the device purchase and had me call in, which took a long wait on hold, then that sales rep had system issues. All that from in my car outside the Verizon store, since in our area (Seattle) they can't do in-person phone sales yet.

    Will keep this thread posted with my impressions, if I can get to use the phone tonight.
    05-22-2020 08:42 PM
  23. beeare's Avatar
    Wow that sounds like a serious ordeal. I'm sorry to hear that was your experience.

    I hadn't set-up a new Android phone for a while so it was a little different than I last remembered. I ended up fiddling with my old phone to see if I could get it on for enough time to make the transition, but it kept fizzling out before I could do anything---which was stressful and annoying. But I eventually found the way to use Google backup to make it happen. It transferred most of my contacts (which was my biggest concern), but none of my apps---although that's probably a good thing because I could use a little purge after having my last phone for 4 years.

    Anyhow, hopefully you're now fully up and running without further issues.

    I'm curious to hear you're impressions, especially after being a skeptic from the start...
    Thanks Beeare, sorry you weren't able to transfer from your Z Force, did you not have Google Backup enabled?

    Despite my skeptical remarks above, I couldn't resist today and purchased Edge+, sitting here now in first-run setup hell, hitting multiple problems, after having had to factory reset and start over after it (not me) forgot my four digit PIN, preventing me from logging in after restart. Now, it seems stuck at "Please wait..." after initial Google account log in. Perhaps it's just taking a long time to transfer my initial settings/apps/SMS from Google Backup, but I thought happened in background.

    My purchase experience wasn't easy, either, myVerizon app couldn't complete the device purchase and had me call in, which took a long wait on hold, then that sales rep had system issues. All that from in my car outside the Verizon store, since in our area (Seattle) they can't do in-person phone sales yet.

    Will keep this thread posted with my impressions, if I can get to use the phone tonight.
    05-23-2020 11:10 AM
  24. benjamminh's Avatar
    I'm a sucker for Moto phones but will need a bigger discount and ideally a deal from Best Buy where the savings come upfront rather than the monthly credits that basically commit one for two years to the phone. The other phone I'd look seriously at would be the OnePlus 8 Pro, but it won't have the inevitable large discounts I anticipate the Edge+ will have.
    05-23-2020 03:48 PM
  25. beeare's Avatar
    Battery life is otherworldly on this phone. Admittedly, I haven't had a new flagship for 4 years, so maybe the game has changed since I've been out of it, but this is the best battery life I've ever experienced with any mobile device.Motorola Edge Plus-screenshot_20200523-223322.jpeg
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    05-23-2020 09:37 PM
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