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  1. clerk's Avatar
    04-19-2019 10:52 AM
  2. clerk's Avatar
    Definitely not pleased about the dimpling in the plastic cover with normal use. That would be very disappointing.
    04-19-2019 10:54 AM
  3. alanjc's Avatar
    I think they're sore that they broke their device.

    I've still only seen 4 confirmed breakages.

    2 from peeling the polymer layer off.
    1 probably from getting modeling clay inside it.
    1 they swear they don't know what happened but it looks pretty mangled in the photos.
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    04-19-2019 10:56 AM
  4. clerk's Avatar
    04-19-2019 10:57 AM
  5. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    Definitely not pleased about the dimpling in the plastic cover with normal use. That would be very disappointing.
    It's a first gen device. I wouldn't recommend buying it unless you're willing to actually take care of it. It even looks fragile. I would treat this thing with kid gloves.

    Some of those tech reviewers probably put it through the paces to see how sturdy it is and broke them.
    04-19-2019 11:02 AM
  6. clerk's Avatar
    I wonder if verge broke their embargo to post that review? No other reviews yet. Seems strange.
    04-19-2019 12:29 PM
  7. Almeuit's Avatar
    Some of those tech reviewers probably put it through the paces to see how sturdy it is and broke them.
    Doubtful. Samsung has them sign an agreement to not intentionally try and break the devices.
    04-19-2019 12:30 PM
  8. Almeuit's Avatar
    I wonder if verge broke their embargo to post that review? No other reviews yet. Seems strange.
    No embargos were handed out when they got the review units. If there was you wouldn't even see stories about them breaking.
    04-19-2019 12:30 PM
  9. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    Doubtful. Samsung has them sign an agreement to not intentionally try and break the devices.
    Not intentionally break them, but not exactly take care of them either. Bet they'll take better care now lol
    04-19-2019 12:48 PM
  10. Almeuit's Avatar
    Not intentionally break them, but not exactly take care of them either.
    I am pretty sure they don't just toss these around like nothing.

    I mean .. when is the last time you saw any phone besides this get broken by various reviewers? Easy.. You don't.
    04-19-2019 12:50 PM
  11. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    I am pretty sure they don't just toss these around like nothing.

    I mean .. when is the last time you saw any phone besides this get broken by various reviewers? Easy.. You don't.
    I doubt they would film any of that anyway. To have a broken Fold gets you all kinds of clicks. I'm not saying they are trying to break them, but let's see if their replacement units break...🤔
    04-19-2019 12:52 PM
  12. Almeuit's Avatar
    I doubt they would film any of that anyway. To have a broken Fold gets you all kinds of clicks.
    Yeah reviewers totally decided to just break only this phone and not do it with any other phone they review.

    Yeah makes total .. sense ..

    lol
    04-19-2019 12:53 PM
  13. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I am pretty sure they don't just toss these around like nothing.

    I mean .. when is the last time you saw any phone besides this get broken by various reviewers? Easy.. You don't.
    JerryRigEverything....lol
    Just kidding....he's a destroyer not a reviewer.
    04-19-2019 12:54 PM
  14. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    Yeah reviewers totally decided to just break only this phone and not do it with any other phone they review.

    Yeah makes total .. sense ..

    lol
    That's not what I said...at all
    04-19-2019 12:55 PM
  15. clerk's Avatar
    I doubt they would film any of that anyway. To have a broken Fold gets you all kinds of clicks. I'm not saying they are trying to break them, but let's see if their replacement units break...
    Well the verge said even the replacement unit had marks and dimples in the plastic screen and said Samsung should provide free replacements.
    04-19-2019 12:58 PM
  16. Almeuit's Avatar
    That's not what I said...at all
    I can only go on what you write. You say they aren't intentionally breaking them but then think they just toss them around willy-nilly and that a broken fold "gets clicks" -- yet this is the only phone that has had this issue.. but it is the reviewers, right?

    I get not jumping to conclusions but most that I have seen have been pretty legit. If Samsung didn't have a warning on the protective film (like apparently the T-Mobile one seems to have that the one exec confirmed) that is a huge ball drop by Samsung. I could literally see myself trying to remove it since I remove any SP or film on a new phone pretty much immediately so I could easily see myself going to remove that then being like "Oh **** I just broke my $2k phone" and be kinda upset.

    As for The Verge issue he even admits he doesn't know what happened. He thinks something got in the hinge and popped up from behind the screen. Samsung took it from him and told him they would "inspect it" but I doubt they will give him the true answer.
    04-19-2019 12:59 PM
  17. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    I can only go on what you write. You say they aren't intentionally breaking them but then think they just toss them around willy-nilly and that a broken fold "gets clicks" -- yet this is the only phone that has had this issue.. but it is the reviewers, right?

    I get not jumping to conclusions but most that I have seen have been pretty legit. If Samsung didn't have a warning on the protective film (like apparently the T-Mobile one seems to have that the one exec confirmed) that is a huge ball drop by Samsung. I could literally see myself trying to remove it since I remove any SP or film on a new phone pretty much immediately so I could easily see myself going to remove that then being like "Oh **** I just broke my $2k phone" and be kinda upset.

    As for The Verge issue he even admits he doesn't know what happened. He thinks something got in the hinge and popped up from behind the screen. Samsung took it from him and told him they would "inspect it" but I doubt they will give him the true answer.
    I never said anything about them tossing phones, so you're not exactly going by what I wrote. There are issues with certain units for sure, but given the design, you can't treat them like you would any other phone. As we can now tell, there are just limits to how rough you can be with plastic screens.
    04-19-2019 01:06 PM
  18. Almeuit's Avatar
    I never said anything about them tossing phones, so you're not exactly going by what I wrote. There are issues with certain units for sure, but given the design, you can't treat them like you would any other phone. As we can now tell, there are just limits to how rough you can be with plastic screens.
    Well I can't go exact since you are trying to sit in the middle lol. You say they don't intentionally do it.. but also don't take care of them.. so I take that as kinda just tossing them around in a meh w/e fashion.
    04-19-2019 01:12 PM
  19. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    Well I can't go exact since you are trying to sit in the middle lol. You say they don't intentionally do it.. but also don't take care of them.. so I take that as kinda just tossing them around in a meh w/e fashion.
    And that's where you lose me. Stop trying to add extra narrative to what I'm saying. You added buzz words like "intentional" and "tossing" for effect. I never said they were doing any of that

    You can't "toss" phone made from glass either, so to assume that's what I meant doesn't make sense.
    04-19-2019 01:18 PM
  20. DaleReeck#AC's Avatar
    Definitely not pleased about the dimpling in the plastic cover with normal use. That would be very disappointing.
    To me. that's the biggest issue. Over time, you may end up getting a lot of dimpling. After six months, swiping left will feel like running your finger over a topographic map of Brazil.
    04-19-2019 01:19 PM
  21. Almeuit's Avatar
    And that's where you lose me. Stop trying to add extra narrative to what I'm saying. You added buzz words like "intentional" and "tossing" for effect. I never said they were doing any of that
    Yep you didn't.. because you sat in the middle and won't state what you intended yet are upset I can't somehow know your exact thought.. that you didn't write.. lol.
    04-19-2019 01:22 PM
  22. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    Yep you didn't.. because you sat in the middle and won't state what you intended yet are upset I can't somehow know your exact thought.. that you didn't write.. lol.
    There is no middle, What are you talking about? None of us own this device and we're all speculating. I gave my thoughts and you're looking for a debate. 😂
    04-19-2019 01:25 PM
  23. Almeuit's Avatar
    There is no middle, What are you talking about? None of us own this device and we're all speculating. I gave my thoughts and you're looking for a debate.
    Not really lol.
    04-19-2019 01:59 PM
  24. jcp007's Avatar
    At the risk of sounding like a broken record, these tech bloggers knew that Samsung employed a new technology to allow a plastic OLED screen to bend and one with a proprietary hinge mechanism with no dust/particle or liquid intrusion protection. If the display were transparent aluminum, then pulling what appears to be a screen protector is understandable.

    It comes down to personal negligence and not accepting the possibility and possibly responsibility that it was a bonehead mistake. Instead, the situation is allowed to fester for two days creating a hugely overblown crucifixion of Samsung being held to impossibility high standard of perfection. Others were saying it was rushed out to market too soon. Eight plus years of development. Really?

    It's only a couple of days later that we find out that, in one case, footage of user error in damaging the screen was on the cutting room floor but a picture to memorialize the event found its way to being published.

    In second case, modeling clay was mentioned deep in a blogsite article and the follow up video today, one in which the reviewer threw more shade on Samsung while trying to convince us that he really liked the device.

    Everyone makes mistakes, sometimes inadvertently damaging a device. I get that it would be humiliating to admit to millions of subscribers and sponsors for these bloggers to take personal responsibility immediately and not let hyper-partisan tech community fan the flames of controversy.

    Let's also keep in mind that these were generation one preproduction units and that there were only what appears to be 100 such units. There is, so far, one unit that could be genuinely defective. That's one percent for those of you keeping score at home.

    Unbox Therapy Lew and John Rettinger released another video in which they remarked that it didn't occur to them that there was a need to peel the plastic layer off. In a prior upload, John Rettinger mentioned the warning label on coffee cups. It shouldn't be necessary to warn people about being careful about boiling hot liquids that can cause severe burns. The person injured was negligent and personally responsible. Yet, emotion kicks an unfortunate event into overdrive and McDonald's becomes the villain.

    I totally get that my comments may be overblown and incindiary and is flawed being based on my understanding of the sequence of events and timelines surrounding the issues and that I don't have all the facts, only video uploads and blogsite articles. Point is that narratives were being spun by those involved and ostensibly doing CYA to protect reputations and monetization/sponsor funding flows.

    Narratives should not drive the story. Only facts should be the determining factor that drives our purchase decision. This is also not to say that Samsung also has a role in the situation by neglecting to provide a warning label in much the same way as McDonald's was forced to when customers have accidents or make mistakes.
    04-19-2019 04:50 PM
  25. Xxtoxicskittlexx's Avatar
    I still stand by what I said about mkbhd. Genius marketing of his name. Every news outlet is showing his Twitter lol. I mean the kid has been reviewing tech for years and just "thought" he should peel the layer. Right after the verge broke the story. Right.....
    Golurk likes this.
    04-19-2019 05:57 PM
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