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  1. dianehelen's Avatar
    Well it's going pretty well. At least Ihave my tablet back. I'd still really like to know why the restore could not see my backup and why the cache wipe failed. But for now just trying to get everything back to where it was. And why do some apps auto dl and some do not.

    But after going to sleep so sad thinking I'd never get it back, I'm so glad I do.
    04-05-2016 12:36 PM
  2. Bosbouer's Avatar
    Well it's going pretty well. At least Ihave my tablet back. I'd still really like to know why the restore could not see my backup and why the cache wipe failed. But for now just trying to get everything back to where it was. And why do some apps auto dl and some do not.

    But after going to sleep so sad thinking I'd never get it back, I'm so glad I do.
    You had me worried there for a moment. I checked my twrp and restore does see the backup on the external sd card.

    As does ES file explorer My trusty old note 10.1 2014 seems to be dying/aging-2016-04-06-09.51.58.jpg
    My trusty old note 10.1 2014 seems to be dying/aging-2016-04-06-09.52.59.jpg
    My trusty old note 10.1 2014 seems to be dying/aging-2016-04-06-09.53.19.jpg Unfortunately I am having the same difficulties get a readable shot of the restore option (overcast and raining, both flash and overhead lights renders poor image)
    04-06-2016 06:04 AM
  3. Emanuel Vitorino's Avatar
    What about having a custom ROM? I'm sure that tablet would be begging for a custom OS. In terms of performance it would improve greatly!
    04-06-2016 06:23 AM
  4. Bosbouer's Avatar
    Got a picture of the twrp recovery screen My trusty old note 10.1 2014 seems to be dying/aging-2016-04-06-12.25.20.jpg
    04-06-2016 07:01 AM
  5. zr2s10's Avatar
    Factory reset is an amazing thing! I'm still running a 2012 Note 10.1 that I've had 3 years now, lol. After 2 years it was running horribly and battery life was only a couple days with minimal use. Once I figured out how to backup all of my S-Notes and other work files, I did the factory reset. I only re-installed what I needed app-wise, avoided any Recycle Bin apps (always cause problems on anything I have), and presto! Runs flawlessly and the battery lasts over a week. I keep wanting to buy a Surface Pro, but can't justify it while the old champ is still running perfectly. I have a 32gb SD card for pics/videos, and I'm running factory image, btw.
    04-06-2016 08:01 AM
  6. dianehelen's Avatar
    Got a picture of the twrp recovery screen Click image for larger version. 

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    Huh, so any guess why my restore did not see my b/u. Also why . My ESfile exp. Could not? In ES in the tools section there is root explorer, but when I go into it , its really just a task killer. I'm tempted to try another b/u to the card and see if I can see it. But at this point I'm afraid to even temp fate by going into twrp

    Tablet seems to be running better, other than some of my apps downloaded updated versions that have some differences I don't like which is why I generally don't update apps. Ex: my rdp lite remote desktop, update does not have the double tap back button to exit, and the updated picsart I don't like the new ui and the updated utorrent doesn't autostart when tapping a magnet link, it's a long press and then select 'open in utorrent" option. Just a bunch of little annoyances.

    I'm just still amazed I have it back, I honestly thought it was a gonner.
    04-06-2016 08:51 AM
  7. dianehelen's Avatar
    What about having a custom ROM? I'm sure that tablet would be begging for a custom OS. In terms of performance it would improve greatly!
    Well after this nightmare with twrp and having to almost trash the tablet, frankly I'm afraid to mess with a custom ROM at this point
    04-06-2016 08:54 AM
  8. dianehelen's Avatar
    Got a picture of the twrp recovery screen Click image for larger version. 

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    So under the category of, we can never really leave well enough alone, can we? ;-) . I went back into twrp and did a new b/u and, this one does show up on my extSD AND I also can see it with ES file explorer. Who knows what happened before, maybe the tablet was so messed up it did not do the b/u correctly ?

    Oh well guess I'll move on and wait for my next adventure in techland. ;-). It's just in the blood for some huh? Ha!
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    04-06-2016 09:32 AM
  9. jademan38's Avatar
    My apologies if this was already offered but I have the note 10.1 2014 and found installing a custom ROM brought it new life. I found a Cyanogenmod ROM for it (possibly slightly older - Android 5.0 not 5.1) on XDA and it's like a new tablet. The stylus functionality is not there but for everything else I couldn't be happier. Battery life is even improved over stock ROM and overall it's very snappy and smooth. I'll look to see if I can find the info I used for the install but doing some Googling should get you to where you need to be. Good luck!
    04-06-2016 12:53 PM
  10. tube517's Avatar
    So under the category of, we can never really leave well enough alone, can we? ;-) . I went back into twrp and did a new b/u and, this one does show up on my extSD AND I also can see it with ES file explorer. Who knows what happened before, maybe the tablet was so messed up it did not do the b/u correctly ?

    Oh well guess I'll move on and wait for my next adventure in techland. ;-). It's just in the blood for some huh? Ha!
    Well, on the good side, that nandroid backup you made is good to have.

    Alot of us that root and have been rooting have been through what you went through. Trust me. I have been up many late nights trying to tinker with a phone or tablet and my wife looks at me the next morning and just shakes her head lol
    04-06-2016 01:06 PM
  11. dianehelen's Avatar
    Yep, this is not my first rodeo either. I have been "messing" with tech toys for probably longer than most on this forum are alive. The first puter I messed with, and did some mods to was a Commodore 64, ya IM THAT OLD

    Currently I have rooted my Note 10.1 2014, 2 Galaxy S4's, a rooted Galaxy 7" Tab, a modified Linux netbook, and I have jail broken my sons last 2 iPhones. ( he is 30 and tech challenged, so mommy to the rescue )

    But no matter how many times we do it, its no less upsetting when things go Kaflooey, is it?

    And ya, my husband does the head shaking thing at me too

    But we DO persist dont we?
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    04-06-2016 02:35 PM
  12. dianehelen's Avatar
    My apologies if this was already offered but I have the note 10.1 2014 and found installing a custom ROM brought it new life. I found a Cyanogenmod ROM for it (possibly slightly older - Android 5.0 not 5.1) on XDA and it's like a new tablet. The stylus functionality is not there but for everything else I couldn't be happier. Battery life is even improved over stock ROM and overall it's very snappy and smooth. I'll look to see if I can find the info I used for the install but doing some Googling should get you to where you need to be. Good luck!

    Losing Spen function would be definite deal breaker for me. I LOVE that pen, and use of for sooo many things I never thought I would. Its what really sets this tablet apart from anything else out there.
    04-06-2016 02:37 PM
  13. anon(9785393)'s Avatar
    Does anyone know if Samsung is going to update the Note 10.1 line? I'm dying for an updated Note tablet for 2016.
    04-06-2016 05:52 PM
  14. dianehelen's Avatar
    Does anyone know if Samsung is going to update the Note 10.1 line? I'm dying for an updated Note tablet for 2016.
    *sigh* ya me too. But I dont think so. They seem to be going towards the 12" tablets, which does not interest me in the least. But we can always hope I guess.
    04-06-2016 09:25 PM
  15. ChillFactorz's Avatar
    Hey dianehelen,

    How has your experience been on the tablet since you wiped cache partition? Have you found any differences in performance or battery?

    I too have a Note 10.1 2014, and been hit with poor battery performance recently, I blame the heavy Touchwiz firmware. I researched new batteries and how to install, after reading the comments and reviews about those batteries, I came away with the conclusion that the newer aftermarket batteries were not much of and improvement. Some batteries were not the actual mAh stated on the battery. I am not at the point of getting a new device yet, but would like to, it's just not economical for me to do so.

    As for TWRP you seemed to have backed up to your internal storage, is it a possibility that you were looking in your external while you were trying to restore? You did say that you deleted the file in the Backup folder, since you did everything in recovery before a reboot, the backup file might have still showed up in a temp folder in cache partition somewhere. A good rule of thumb is to go to your file where you backed up and verify that the file is in place before you begin wiping anything, I'll even go into restore to be sure I can find it there and that the file is the appropriate size 4-6gb.

    During first boot after wiping things in recovery, your system is rebuilding your partitions, system apps, and other system data, this information is pulled from folders within the system partition this process takes time. Another good rule of thumb, is to allow your device 5-10 mins to startup after you do anything in recovery. Even after the device loads the homescreen, I let it sit a few minutes to load other apps and what not, in the background. This is the time I usually reboot and walk away, otherwise the temptation is too great to fiddle with the device.

    The good thing about older Samsung devices they are almost unbrickable, you could always use the XDA website to get information on using Odin to go back to stock recovery and even putting on the latest factory fresh TouchWiz firmware. I used to have the latest Cyanogen Mod image , with the latest TWRP recovery. I missed the function of the sPen. So I put Touchwiz back on, with root I wasn't able to get the 5.1.1 OTA update until I used Odin.

    I'm glad your happy with were your at and have a working device, How much Screen on time and battery life do you have?
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    04-07-2016 02:34 PM
  16. dianehelen's Avatar
    Hey dianehelen,

    How has your experience been on the tablet since you wiped cache partition? Have you found any differences in performance or battery?

    I was never able to successfully wipe the cache partion, it errored and had that heck of a time getting it back, until I finally did the FR and went thru all its issues. But since then, Oh YES. Its very snappy, responsive and the wierd issues I was having seem to have resovled.

    I too have a Note 10.1 2014, and been hit with poor battery performance recently, I blame the heavy Touchwiz firmware. I researched new batteries and how to install, after reading the comments and reviews about those batteries, I came away with the conclusion that the newer aftermarket batteries were not much of and improvement. Some batteries were not the actual mAh stated on the battery. I am not at the point of getting a new device yet, but would like to, it's just not economical for me to do so.

    Always your choice, but my original battery was barely getting 4+ hours. The battery I got from Amazon came with great directions, and even the little tool needed to open the case (the hardest part) I am the software.tech in my house, but Im not as good with tools and mechanical stuff, so my husband did the actual hardware work, changing the battery. Had one small issue first time thru, in that one of the ribbon cables did not seat all the way, so we (he) had to open it up again, but after that it booted just fine, and now I get close to 8 hours of use

    As for TWRP you seemed to have backed up to your internal storage, is it a possibility that you were looking in your external while you were trying to restore?
    No , by the time I tried to do the restore, I had deleted the b/u from internal, and (thought) I had sucessfully did another b/u and properly saved it to external, who knows what malfunctioned there


    You did say that you deleted the file in the Backup folder, since you did everything in recovery before a reboot, the backup file might have still showed up in a temp folder in cache partition somewhere. A good rule of thumb is to go to your file where you backed up and verify that the file is in place before you begin wiping anything, I'll even go into restore to be sure I can find it there and that the file is the appropriate size 4-6gb.

    Yeah, that would have been a good idea, but after the annoying time consuming ordeal of trying to find how to delete the b/u that took up all my available internal storage, and then doing one to external, I guess I neglected that logical step, live and learn ey?

    During first boot after wiping things in recovery, your system is rebuilding your partitions, system apps, and other system data, this information is pulled from folders within the system partition this process takes time. Another good rule of thumb, is to allow your device 5-10 mins to startup after you do anything in recovery. Even after the device loads the homescreen, I let it sit a few minutes to load other apps and what not, in the background. This is the time I usually reboot and walk away, otherwise the temptation is too great to fiddle with the device.

    The problem was the cache wipe produced an error, that I could not get out from, so after doing the FR, and the reboot, I only saw a partial screen begin, logo, blue circle, then blue circle stopped midway, and just saw SAMSUNG on the screen. I would have expected either a wait, or in progress message, to cue me to wait. So my thought was it was hung.

    The good thing about older Samsung devices they are almost unbrickable, you could always use the XDA website to get information on using Odin to go back to stock recovery and even putting on the latest factory fresh TouchWiz firmware. I used to have the latest Cyanogen Mod image , with the latest TWRP recovery. I missed the function of the sPen. So I put Touchwiz back on, with root I wasn't able to get the 5.1.1 OTA update until I used Odin.

    I have found in the past, that xda is not very helpful, at least to me, I posted my issues about this on there, and as of yesteday got zero replies. I have always found AC is the best , smartest, and most helpful. I guess had the tech gods not opened up, and I did not eventually get to the new setup screen I may have gone there, or here even to get some guidance, on getting back my tablet via odin

    I'm glad your happy with were your at and have a working device, How much Screen on time and battery life do you have?

    I am getting about 6-8 hours, with the lower number if Im on screen, and doing screen intensive activities, photo editing, videos, music, etc. On the higher side if just reading stuff internmittently, chatting, etc. For now Im happy to have it back, and able to use. I still alternate during the day with an Acer Chromebook. I am old, and retired, so Im home most of the time, doing something or other on a tablet, or computer, or chromebook. The chromebook is a wonderful addition, and fill in, and the battery on that thing is amazing. But functionally it cant do as much as this tablet.

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