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  1. jlangner's Avatar
    Waiting for your update
    Ok, I updated to TMO. All went good. Signal strength meter looks higher but its not. Looks like TMO just makes meter look stronger. I do have HD voice now so thats good though.

    Slower speeds with Unlocked ver. on T-Mobile?-t-mobile-before.jpg

    Unlocked firmware

    Slower speeds with Unlocked ver. on T-Mobile?-t-mobile.jpg

    TMO firmware
    EMGSM likes this.
    08-27-2019 02:40 PM
  2. jlangner's Avatar
    You can see even though signal strength about same, TMO meter shows 4 bars.
    bhatech and EMGSM like this.
    08-27-2019 02:42 PM
  3. bhatech's Avatar
    You can see even though signal strength about same, TMO meter shows 4 bars.
    Glad you squashed the signal weaker on unlocked model news

    Some people get the unlocked model for the first time and see the less number of bars to come to these conclusions.
    jlangner and toenail_flicker like this.
    08-27-2019 02:54 PM
  4. kolyan2k's Avatar
    I havent tried TMobile firmware yet but I was at this place where my Pixel 3 worked fine on T-Mobile via Google Fi and Note 10 switched from zero bars to no service. So there is definitely some sort of issue
    08-27-2019 03:31 PM
  5. CKwik240's Avatar
    I havent tried TMobile firmware yet but I was at this place where my Pixel 3 worked fine on T-Mobile via Google Fi and Note 10 switched from zero bars to no service. So there is definitely some sort of issue
    Don't think it's an issue with the phone. I had a Sony Z3 international unlocked and a T-mobile version of the same phone side by side on seperate lines side by side. They performed pretty much the same. I've had several Samsung phones, both T-Mobile and unlocked versions over the years and I have not noticed a difference in connection performance at all.

    Not saying you're not having some kind of issue, but it's not ubiquitous to an unlocked phone.
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    08-27-2019 03:54 PM
  6. kolyan2k's Avatar
    Don't think it's an issue with the phone. I had a Sony Z3 international unlocked and a T-mobile version of the same phone side by side on seperate lines side by side. They performed pretty much the same. I've had several Samsung phones, both T-Mobile and unlocked versions over the years and I have not noticed a difference in connection performance at all.

    Not saying you're not having some kind of issue, but it's not ubiquitous to an unlocked phone.
    It depends on the area. At home I don't have any issues, in that area with bad signal Note was simply unusable
    08-27-2019 07:12 PM
  7. Lepa79's Avatar
    There is truth to Note 10+ not grabbing much signal. I had pixel 3 xl before and in our basement, I used to get 2 bars easily. With Note 10, I am at zero bars to 1 very rarely. Both unlocked.
    08-27-2019 07:23 PM
  8. kolyan2k's Avatar
    I wonder what's going on, Note isn't connecting to certain bands maybe? I know how to check bands on Note but it sees to be on Pixel 3 you need root
    08-27-2019 08:50 PM
  9. CKwik240's Avatar
    There is truth to Note 10+ not grabbing much signal. I had pixel 3 xl before and in our basement, I used to get 2 bars easily. With Note 10, I am at zero bars to 1 very rarely. Both unlocked.
    Bars don't matter. T-Mobile software fudges them to make the network appear stronger. Look for a numerical signal strength value:
    Attached Thumbnails Slower speeds with Unlocked ver. on T-Mobile?-1033.jpg  
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    08-27-2019 11:21 PM
  10. bgbagz's Avatar
    Bars don't matter. T-Mobile software fudges them to make the network appear stronger. Look for a numerical signal strength value:
    What app is this?
    08-28-2019 10:08 PM
  11. mustang7757's Avatar
    Lte Discovery
    What app is this?
    08-28-2019 10:24 PM
  12. evan_2k's Avatar
    Ok, I updated to TMO. All went good. Signal strength meter looks higher but its not. Looks like TMO just makes meter look stronger. I do have HD voice now so thats good though.
    So you didn't have HD voice before you flashed? I was looking to keep my phone stock, but may end up flashing to get the features if that's the case.
    08-29-2019 02:02 AM
  13. kolyan2k's Avatar
    I am on Google Fi, so I don't get HD calls, wifi calls, or the visual voicemail anyway. I would like to know though if signal has improved and perhaps unlocked Note is not utilizing all necessary TMobile bands
    08-29-2019 06:01 AM
  14. bhatech's Avatar
    So you didn't have HD voice before you flashed? I was looking to keep my phone stock, but may end up flashing to get the features if that's the case.
    I believe HD voice is available on the unlocked model for TMobile/Verizon. Only reason to flash carrier firmware is if you want the perception of better signal with more bars
    08-29-2019 09:34 AM
  15. evan_2k's Avatar
    I believe HD voice is available on the unlocked model for TMobile/Verizon. Only reason to flash carrier firmware is if you want the perception of better signal with more bars
    Thank you
    08-29-2019 12:52 PM
  16. o4liberty's Avatar
    Getting same results as any of my devices in my house don't see any differences at all.
    08-29-2019 12:59 PM
  17. mustang7757's Avatar
    I don't see so much a issue with TMobile on unlocked version , it's more Att
    bhatech and nuangel2 like this.
    08-29-2019 01:09 PM
  18. bhatech's Avatar
    I don't see so much a issue with TMobile on unlocked version , it's more Att
    Same with Verizon, everything same as carrier variant for unlocked model on Verizon. AT&T is the crap carrier who doesn't play ball with unlocked models.
    mustang7757 likes this.
    08-29-2019 01:40 PM
  19. mustang7757's Avatar
    Same with Verizon, everything same as carrier variant for unlocked model on Verizon. AT&T is the crap carrier who doesn't play ball with unlocked models.
    They use to be good
    08-29-2019 02:29 PM
  20. jlangner's Avatar
    I believe HD voice is available on the unlocked model for TMobile/Verizon. Only reason to flash carrier firmware is if you want the perception of better signal with more bars
    I never saw the HD+ on phone screen before switching but maybe just doesn't show.

    ***I just read it is there just doesn't show HD+ on unlocked. Also unlocked does not have Video Calling feature.
    08-29-2019 02:36 PM
  21. nuangel2's Avatar
    I am using an unlocked on t-mobile. I get everything other then video calling. Not a problem for me I don't use it.
    mustang7757, bhatech and bgbagz like this.
    08-30-2019 09:10 AM
  22. jlangner's Avatar
    I am using an unlocked on t-mobile. I get everything other then video calling. Not a problem for me I don't use it.
    Only other thing would be RCS..."if" they ever implement it.
    08-30-2019 12:01 PM
  23. mustang7757's Avatar
    Only other thing would be RCS..."if" they ever implement it.
    Hopefully Google message app takes care that
    08-30-2019 12:25 PM
  24. EMGSM's Avatar
    I haven't noticed any slow down. I haven't done any technical measurements or anything like that. Just going off of day to day usage.
    nuangel2 and bhatech like this.
    08-30-2019 12:38 PM
  25. nuangel2's Avatar
    What's RCS?
    toenail_flicker likes this.
    08-30-2019 12:54 PM
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