08-28-2019 11:49 PM
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  1. bobbyleebrown.bb's Avatar
    How do you change it back to FHD? I keep getting a can't change while in high performance mode!
    08-25-2019 07:10 AM
  2. chanchan05's Avatar
    How do you change it back to FHD? I keep getting a can't change while in high performance mode!
    You have to be in optimized mode. Because that's what high performance mode is: WQHD and max brightness over optimized mode. It doesn't really add more performance AFAIK.
    08-25-2019 07:36 AM
  3. bobbyleebrown.bb's Avatar
    You have to be in optimized mode. Because that's what high performance mode is: WQHD and max brightness over optimized mode. It doesn't really add more performance AFAIK.
    Thanks
    08-25-2019 09:23 AM
  4. mustang7757's Avatar
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ole.../pentile%3famp

    It's basically the design of diamond pentile technology itself. In a true 'pixel' it's one each of RGB. On a diamond pentile, it's alternating red + 1/2 of a green pixel and blue + 1/2 of a green pixel. But they count each subpixel as separate. So the actual number of RGB units in a diamond pentile screen is 1080p, if we count each blue+red+2xgreen units.

    EDIT:

    Some more helpful links. The guy in the reddit link explains it better:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS8/co...e_real_reason/

    https://medium.com/@suyashsrijan/108...p-9951b9e5c2ee

    The GSMArena guys who use microscopes to actually count the pixels says it's a factual resolution of 2,960x720 pixels.

    https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gal...iew-1734p3.php
    Thanks for the links , some were older but I'm not convinced by those articles . I was looking at display mate remarks about note 10+ 3k display they didn't mention what you found with the articles you link.
    But who knows ..Im not going argue this because I don't see enough evidence out there to say that it Right or Wrong ...
    But I find it interesting for sure .wqhd+ vs. fhd+-screenshot_20190825-153023.jpeg
    Hermes Hidayat likes this.
    08-25-2019 02:34 PM
  5. strikeIII's Avatar
    Nope, got chargers all over the place. Not the point. You think Samsung would have made FHD the default if QWHD is really noticeable on a 6.8 screen? It's just a blown out spec that might might come handy in very rare situations.

    Similar to 12 gb of RAM. is it needed? Heck no, 99.99% would do just fabulous with 8gb of RAM, including myself. But hey, feels good to have a phone with 12gb of RAM (guilty myself here, it's why I bought the Note 10+).

    The fact is, most people will never notice the difference, it's why Samsung has FHD as default. But yes, go nuts, why not? Hehehe cheers.
    You'd appreciate the 12gb of ram if you use DeX. I'm glad they made the bump.
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    08-25-2019 04:03 PM
  6. Golurk's Avatar
    You'd appreciate the 12gb of ram if you use DeX. I'm glad they made the bump.
    Part of the target market for the Note 10 phones are those who will/might actually need the 12GB RAM (I know it’s very suprising). When you have a dozen+ apps syncing in the background plus DeX connecting to a computer which itself has several applications running and syncing with the Note 10(+) that RAM (and the cooling pad) comes in handy.

    Plus (because you never know how performance/power hungry future Android software might be) the 12GB of RAM should make the Note 10+ future proof.
    strikeIII likes this.
    08-27-2019 09:49 AM
  7. Gary02468's Avatar
    I already told you that the screen isn't a real 1440p screen. [Its] true resolution is 1080p
    According to this analysis, the PenTile display meets the VESA industry-standard criteria for 1440p: [CORRECTED LINK]
    https://web.archive.org/web/20110714...-standards.pdf
    08-27-2019 10:36 AM
  8. mustang7757's Avatar
    Cant open your link Gary
    According to this analysis, the PenTile display meets the VESA industry-standard criteria for 1440p:
    http://www.nouvoyance.com/files/pdf/...-standards.pdf
    08-27-2019 10:42 AM
  9. Gary02468's Avatar
    Cant open your link Gary
    Oops, sorry. Try this one:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20110714...-standards.pdf
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    08-27-2019 10:48 AM
  10. neil74's Avatar
    I already told you that the screen isn't a real 1440p screen. It's true resolution is 1080p and it achieves 1440p by putting it in a mode that degrades the screen faster. Were you reading?
    Is this really the case? If so it is very interesting.

    I have always cranked it up to 1440p as the battery difference is negligible and I just wanted it at full quality. This though would be genuine reason to keep it at 1080p though if true.
    08-27-2019 01:22 PM
  11. chanchan05's Avatar
    According to this analysis, the PenTile display meets the VESA industry-standard criteria for 1440p: [CORRECTED LINK]
    https://web.archive.org/web/20110714...-standards.pdf
    Because that's talking about RGBW pentile, meaning there are 4 subpixel colors, each with the same size. Diamond Pentile that Samsung uses is entirely different with just 3 colors at RGB, and the green subpixels are only half the size of the other pixels. Basically that document doesn't apply to it. It applies to the LG screens though since those use an RGBW panel.
    08-27-2019 04:30 PM
  12. Gary02468's Avatar
    Because that's talking about RGBW pentile, meaning there are 4 subpixel colors, each with the same size. Diamond Pentile that Samsung uses is entirely different with just 3 colors at RGB, and the green subpixels are only half the size of the other pixels.
    Sorry, where do you see that Note 10s use Diamond PenTile rather than RGBW PenTile?
    08-27-2019 05:05 PM
  13. chanchan05's Avatar
    Sorry, where do you see that Note 10s use Diamond PenTile rather than RGBW PenTile?
    I'm taking Samsung's word for it.

    They announced that the Note 10 variants use the same Dynamic OLED tech that Samsung already uses prior in the S10 5G, which contains the same RGB layout Samsung has been using since they first patented their pentile design. I'll believe Samsung for now in saying it is the same.
    At its core dynamic OLED is just SuperAMOLED with HDR+ support due to new OLED components.
    So far we don't have microscope images of the Note 10 and 10+ screens. So until Anandtech comes out with his review, I'm basing it on Samsung's announcements.
    TBF, all phones using Samsung OLED panels (OnePlus, Apple, etc) are using the same diamond pentile.
    08-27-2019 06:02 PM
  14. Gary02468's Avatar
    TBF, all phones using Samsung OLED panels (OnePlus, Apple, etc) are using the same diamond pentile.
    Thanks, those are interesting subtleties. The technology does still meet the VESA criteria for the claimed 1440p resolution though, right? Granted, it can be argued that the criteria are too lax.
    08-27-2019 07:06 PM
  15. KruseLudsMobile's Avatar
    Part of the target market for the Note 10 phones are those who will/might actually need the 12GB RAM (I know it’s very suprising). When you have a dozen+ apps syncing in the background plus DeX connecting to a computer which itself has several applications running and syncing with the Note 10(+) that RAM (and the cooling pad) comes in handy.

    Plus (because you never know how performance/power hungry future Android software might be) the 12GB of RAM should make the Note 10+ future proof.
    Reminds me of the time when people said "Who would ever need more thank 640K of memory?"
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    08-27-2019 07:40 PM
  16. chanchan05's Avatar
    Thanks, those are interesting subtleties. The technology does still meet the VESA criteria for the claimed 1440p resolution though, right? Granted, it can be argued that the criteria are too lax.
    I don't have any source if they meet the VESA criteria. Also we can't really equate those screens even if they are all made by Samsung because while the Apple screens share the same diamond pattern and same manufacturer, for some reason they're also designed with a larger fill factor than the ones Samsung normally use.

    This was an issue in the earlier days of diamond pentile, circa Galaxy S3 and S4, when it was 720p screens and the difference when placed side by side with a true RGB 720p screen was visible. You can go to threads from these very forums where people were debating that the 720p screen on the S3 wasn't really 720p. We had people ranting on how pentile screens were 'inferior'. Although Samsung did have material where you can look at the difference and decide for yourseld. Once the resolutions hit 1080p though it became less of an issue. The issue now is more, do people really see/notice a difference between 1080p and 1440p on phones.
    08-28-2019 01:19 AM
  17. notefreak's Avatar
    I don't understand how people don't see the difference. Maybe I do because I am short sighted and see very well from upclose.
    08-28-2019 02:00 AM
  18. Golurk's Avatar
    I don't understand how people don't see the difference. Maybe I do because I am short sighted and see very well from upclose.
    Having switched from FHD to WQHD and back again several times to see the change I can’t see any difference unless the phone screen is within 5cm of my face and I have decent eyesight. Pretty unlikely most users will notice the difference unless they watch QHD/4K videos often.
    08-28-2019 04:24 AM
  19. Carrie Greicar's Avatar
    I don't understand how people don't see the difference. Maybe I do because I am short sighted and see very well from upclose.
    Yep I don't see any difference either. I read somewhere once that most people don't see the difference on the smaller screens. Either way both display settings are good.
    08-28-2019 06:24 AM
  20. Dimas de Leon's Avatar
    According to the test I've seen
    The difference between 1080p and 1440p is only about 2% when it comes to battery drain , you're gonna spend 1,100 on a top of the line phone to watch content at a lower resolution , just to save 2% battery life
    Really?
    Link to the test? I don't believe it.
    08-28-2019 06:52 AM
  21. notefreak's Avatar
    Yep I don't see any difference either. I read somewhere once that most people don't see the difference on the smaller screens. Either way both display settings are good.
    Come to think of it, I see a lot of things from upclose other people don't.

    The difference I see is for example letters pop more, are simply clearer, same as images, it is just more crisp and translates as beautiful in my brain. I have used this setting in my previous phones as well and never noticed any screen degradation LMAO.
    Carrie Greicar likes this.
    08-28-2019 07:09 AM
  22. Dimas de Leon's Avatar
    I can only see a difference if I screenshot the same image on my phone using both display settings then zooming in.
    08-28-2019 08:07 AM
  23. chanchan05's Avatar
    Link to the test? I don't believe it.
    Well even the built in settings in the power saving setup tells you that switching between 1080p and 1440p allows you an estimated 10-20min longer battery life. It really just comes down to if you see the difference or not.

    If you don't see a difference, why just not save the 20min? If you see a difference, you knowingly trade that time for a better experience anyway, so it's not like you're not gaining something.

    The possible increased degradation would be kind of even across the screen anyway, so it would just translate to possibly less max brightness capability or maybe color shifting, but it should only be a concern if you plan to keep your phone longer than 2 years.
    Dimas de Leon likes this.
    08-28-2019 07:36 PM
  24. DARK Vader777's Avatar
    I'm turning all my settings all the way up. I paid for it. I'm using it.
    And as for getting screen burn-in.

    I've gotten this before, and always had it replaced for free!
    Cracked screen
    $29.00

    $1100.00?

    you better max everything out regardless.
    08-28-2019 09:02 PM
  25. bandofbrothers2112's Avatar
    My 2 cents....

    Right now my phone is on the default setting because I have tried the wqhd+ setting and simply cannot see a difference.

    Must be my tired old eyes.
    08-28-2019 11:49 PM
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