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  1. Borgie's Avatar
    Just curious if anyone has done this and if there were any ill effects to the phone?
    10-13-2019 10:45 AM
  2. mustang7757's Avatar
    No , its water resistant to certain spec and manufacturer doesn't cover water damage if it happens.
    B. Diddy, faith3935 and Alan Sims like this.
    10-13-2019 12:14 PM
  3. Lepa79's Avatar
    Just curious if anyone has done this and if there were any ill effects to the phone?
    I took video in a pool under water with my Note 9. Absolutely fantastic. Never an issue with the phone. Didn't do the same with my Note 10 yet but it should be just fine.
    Borgie likes this.
    10-13-2019 12:53 PM
  4. Borgie's Avatar
    No , its water resistant to certain spec and manufacturer doesn't cover water damage if it happens.
    Yeah it says 1.5 meters (4.92 ft) for 30 minutes. In fresh water.
    mustang7757 likes this.
    10-13-2019 01:30 PM
  5. B. Diddy's Avatar
    Keep in mind that the water resistance rating is not a guarantee, and water damage is not covered by warranty. These phones are not intended for underwater usage, regardless of any misleading advertising you may have seen. Water resistance is meant as a protective feature in case of accidental submersion, but the testing is based on very controlled circumstances, using fresh water (not salt water), at a specific depth (and therefore a specific pressure). Any deviation from those specifications, or any potential break in the phone's integrity (like a small crack on the screen) will increase the risk for water damage.
    tube517, VidJunky and sandra_17 like this.
    10-13-2019 02:48 PM
  6. tube517's Avatar
    Water resistant does not mean water proof.

    I would never put a $1000+ device under water on purpose.

    Electronics + Water = Bad news
    10-13-2019 02:56 PM
  7. bassplayrguy's Avatar
    Just curious if anyone has done this and if there were any ill effects to the phone?
    Hell no. Never on purpose.
    10-13-2019 03:23 PM
  8. Rukbat's Avatar
    Stick the phone into a ziplock bag. Press the air out and seal it. Stick that, sealed edge first, into another ziplock bag. Press the air out and seal it.

    Now if water starts to get into the outer bag you can see it and get the whole thing out of the water fast. (Any phone takes pictures pretty well like that - and you save the $10 that a waterproof pouch would cost.)
    10-13-2019 03:40 PM
  9. strikeIII's Avatar
    Just curious if anyone has done this and if there were any ill effects to the phone?
    I've done it plenty of times with no issues as far as water damage. YMMV, but the screen acts all wonky once you put it in water so sometimes it's difficult to start a video under water or take a picture. The water acts like a bunch of random touch input going on. Even if you start video before putting it under water the water can sometimes stop the recording, flip it to the front facing camera, etc. It's not really ideal functionality wise but with a bit of finagling you can probably get some good shots. Don't think it's really worth the hassle tho.
    10-13-2019 03:57 PM
  10. runfar262's Avatar
    I'd just get a waterproof case, to be on the safe side. There are plenty of waterproof cases out there.
    10-13-2019 10:37 PM
  11. Kendahl Titcomb's Avatar
    Yup and they came out beautiful. I don't recommend doing this to everyone but honestly if your willing, the phone is designed to be in the short term conditions of minimal depths like the arm length at an aquarium let's say...not that this is what I did. But in all seriousness..it can be worth it
    10-13-2019 11:24 PM
  12. faith3935's Avatar
    Not recommended. Don't be that guy that attempts it and complains and whine to Samsung support about your phone being water damaged. Samsung warranty doesn't cover water damage.
    10-14-2019 01:13 AM
  13. STAJNRADO's Avatar
    I think deliberately dipping your phone in the water is crazy!
    toenail_flicker likes this.
    10-14-2019 02:30 AM
  14. Gary02468's Avatar
    I do it. It's fine. The phone is rated at IP68, which means no water ingress if submerged in still water up to 1.5 meters for up to 30 minutes. It's true that Samsung's warranty says it excludes water damage, but I don't think they can legally get away with that exclusion given their IP68 advertising. A manufacturer is required to stand by a product's advertised capabilities.

    One of the first things I do when I get an IP68-rated device is to turn it on and submerge it in a container of water for several minutes while videoing the whole process. If the phone stops working, I'll have proof that its seal was defective before the 2-week exchange period runs out. But none of my IP68 devices have ever failed that test.

    https://forums.androidcentral.com/e?...token=k6ak1229
    10-14-2019 07:45 AM
  15. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Yeah it says 1.5 meters (4.92 ft) for 30 minutes. In fresh water.
    My advice is don't do it. Get yourself a case or a camera designed for that purpose.
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    10-14-2019 07:58 AM
  16. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I do it. It's fine. The phone is rated at IP68, which means no water ingress if submerged in still water up to 1.5 meters for up to 30 minutes. It's true that Samsung's warranty says it excludes water damage, but I don't think they can legally get away with that exclusion given their IP68 advertising. A manufacturer is required to stand by a product's advertised capabilities.

    One of the first things I do when I get an IP68-rated device is to turn it on and submerge it in a container of water for several minutes while videoing the whole process. If the phone stops working, I'll have proof that its seal was defective before the 2-week exchange period runs out. But none of my IP68 devices have ever failed that test.

    https://forums.androidcentral.com/e?...token=s_S_Fzvt
    It's not covered period regardless of when you test it. You might win if you take them to small claims court in the U.S. because the courts always favor the little guy in a law suit regardless of wrong or right but who wants to go through that?

    You might slip it by during the return process but if they realize it's water damage you're out of luck unless you buy accidental damage insurance.
    10-14-2019 08:02 AM
  17. Gary02468's Avatar
    It's not covered period regardless of when you test it.
    I know their warranty says it excludes water damage, but do you have any evidence that they can legally get away with excluding an advertised capability from the warranty if they're challenged on it?
    10-14-2019 08:10 AM
  18. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I know their warranty says it excludes water damage, but do you have any evidence that they can legally get away with excluding an advertised capability from the warranty if they're challenged on it?
    This argument has been between to death in various threads and forums and we won't get any further today than anyone has gotten in the past. It's not covered period. I've been involved in numerous law suits over the course of my career and whether you get away with it in a court of law is a question of how well you present your argument, who the judge is and as I've previously stated, they often rule in the favor if the little guy. In my opinion, it's not worth the effort but that's up to the end user to decide if they have a problem.
    Frankly, I think it's bad advice to tell someone it's OK.
    10-14-2019 08:31 AM
  19. Mooncatt's Avatar
    I know their warranty says it excludes water damage, but do you have any evidence that they can legally get away with excluding an advertised capability from the warranty if they're challenged on it?
    There is no legal requirement to have a warranty, and what is warrantied is up to the manufacturer. When it comes to water damage on an "ip rated" device like this, there's additional user induced variables that can make that seal fail, which Samsung can not account for. Water contaminants, drops/impact damage, disassembly, etc.

    What you are claiming would be like trying to claim a cracked windshield on a car's "bumper to bumper warranty" after being hit by a rock.
    10-14-2019 08:34 AM
  20. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    I've had my Note 8/9 in the shower without issue.

    S7 has been submerged in lakes and streams numerous times without issue but like others said it isn't covered by warranty. Also keep in mind when the screen is wet it doesn't respond to touch. I couldn't take photos, could only start a video above water and submerge it.
    10-14-2019 08:36 AM
  21. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    I do it. It's fine. The phone is rated at IP68, which means no water ingress if submerged in still water up to 1.5 meters for up to 30 minutes. It's true that Samsung's warranty says it excludes water damage, but I don't think they can legally get away with that exclusion given their IP68 advertising. A manufacturer is required to stand by a product's advertised capabilities.

    One of the first things I do when I get an IP68-rated device is to turn it on and submerge it in a container of water for several minutes while videoing the whole process. If the phone stops working, I'll have proof that its seal was defective before the 2-week exchange period runs out. But none of my IP68 devices have ever failed that test.

    https://forums.androidcentral.com/e?...token=5YmkaUQu
    I'm a former Verizon rep and trained specifically as a Samsung advocate. They do not replace water damaged phones.
    10-14-2019 08:38 AM
  22. Gary02468's Avatar
    There is no legal requirement to have a warranty, and what is warrantied is up to the manufacturer.
    There's no requirement to provide a written warranty, but there are definite legal requirements that provide warranty protection even for things that are not covered by a written warranty.

    If a manufacturer states "This device will withstand conditions x", then that statement is legally considered an "express warranty" even if the word "warranty" does not appear in that statement. (There are also "implied warranties" that apply even in the absence of such statements.)

    You can find a good summary of the relevant law here:
    https://consumer.findlaw.com/consume...arranties.html

    For example, a light bulb manufacturer prints the words "lasts 15,000 hours" on its packaging. The words "guaranteed" or "warranty" do not appear, but this claim nevertheless is an express warranty.
    10-14-2019 08:43 AM
  23. o4liberty's Avatar
    Device is too expensive to chance damage I won’t even try it.
    10-14-2019 08:59 AM
  24. Mooncatt's Avatar
    If a manufacturer states "This device will withstand conditions x", then that statement is legally considered an "express warranty" even if the word "warranty" does not appear in that statement. (There are also "implied warranties" that apply even in the absence of such statements.)
    Giving you the benefit of the doubt, then look at the claim. The IP rating is based on a controlled lab test, not the real world. So at best, they would only have to honor anything if you can show the damage occurred in an identical lab setting and not a real world setting. As I said, there's too many variables for any manufacturer to account for to have a warranty on water damage even with that rating.

    And because they expressly say water damage isn't covered, not even an implied warranty argument would hold water (pun only slightly intended).
    10-14-2019 09:07 AM
  25. Gary02468's Avatar
    And because they expressly say water damage isn't covered, not even an implied warranty argument would hold water (pun only slightly intended).
    We're talking about an express warranty here, not an implied warranty. And an express warranty still holds even if it's excluded from the written warranty.

    In any case, I'm not making any recommendation for how others should use their phones. Everyone can assess for themselves the risk that their consumer rights might not be upheld. I just want everyone to have accurate information about what their legal rights are in the first place.

    It's worth noting though that while many here have reported using various IP68 Notes underwater, I don't recall seeing any reports from someone who intentionally used their (uncracked) IP68 phone underwater under IP68-consistent conditions and then encountered water damage. There could be such reports that I missed, though. Do you know of any?
    10-14-2019 09:14 AM
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