Specs for a 10 ft Note 10+ Fast charge cable

[Mike_Luchia]

Hey all,

Anyone know exactly what specifications I would need to look for if I want to get a 10 USB Type C that will charge as fast and the cable that came with the Note10+?

Thanks.

 

[TodaySteve]

Why not get a long as you want USB extension and plug your samsung charge cable into it? Works great for me.

 

[Mike_Luchia]

Because not every USB C cable charges at the same fast charge rate as the original. I've used multiple C cables and don't get the fast charging notification.

 

[ezdoit]

Because not every USB C cable charges at the same fast charge rate as the original. I've used multiple C cables and don't get the fast charging notification.

Try this - it is what came in the box - can't find just the cable

https://forums.androidcentral.com/e...galaxy-note10%2Faccessories%2F&token=4Cq5mRU0

 

[j_hansen]

Because not every USB C cable charges at the same fast charge rate as the original. I've used multiple C cables and don't get the fast charging notification.

Have you turned fast charging on in the first place?
On my unlocked Exynos model I can turn it on/off individually, wireless or cable and even time it so when charging wireless overnight it only does 5 watt charging

 

[Mike_Luchia]

Yes, it's on. It displays Fast Charging with the Samsung cable in the box but with any aftermarket cable is only shows Charging and the estimated time until full is longer.

 

[Mooncatt]

The universally capable cable spec (meaning it'll also be able to fully utilize the 45W charger) would be USB 3.1 Gen 2 or better. I seem to remember reading somewhere that 10 ft cables aren't currently possible to fully meet that spec (the increased length increases resistance and slows data/current below the spec requirement). That may have changed recently, but that's the spec to look for.

 

[Mike_Luchia]

Thank you, exactly what I was looking for.

 

[Mooncatt]

Thank you, exactly what I was looking for.

You're welcome.

I forgot to mention that if you see any references to having an e-mark (a special identifier chip in the cable), just ignore it. The USB 3.1 Gen 2 spec already requires that chip, so is redundant to say it has one. The Gen 1 spec and some USB 2.0 cables can also have that chip, but can not handle the full power of the 45W charger. So just because a cable listing claims to have that chip doesn't mean it's 100% compatible.

 

[Rukbat]

45 Watts at 20 Volts is 2.25 Amps. I wouldn't go for any smaller conductors than 22 gauge for 10 feet. That gives you a 1.16 Volt drop at the end of 10 feet - 5.78% - which will make a measurable (if small) difference in the charging time.

But try to find the power conductor gauge in a charging cable - it's not listed anywhere that I've seen.

That said, I use a good quality braided 10 foot cable on one charger (I can charge in the bedroom or living room) with no problem. All a thinner can;e is going to do is get warm (if it gets noticeably warm, it's too small, don't use it) and increase the charging time. It won't damage the charger or the phone.

 

[Mooncatt]

But try to find the power conductor gauge in a charging cable - it's not listed anywhere that I've seen.

The Volutz brand lists their power wire size, and the 10 ft. cables are 19 gauge. Unfortunately, I don't think they have any proper spec'd cables to match the capabilities of the N10+. They seem to change up their product line often, and right now I'm not even seeing a USB C to C option. But hey, if you want a highly durable cable, these cables last a long long time.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=volutz+u...ag=hawk-future-20&ascsubtag=UUacUvbUpU6698961

 

[Rukbat]

19 gauge would only give a 0.36 Volt (1.81%) drop for 10 feet - that would be fine.

 

[Mooncatt]

At full power, the Samsung 45W charger is 4.5A@10V. That works out to a .72V drop (7.25%) over 10 feet on 19 AWG wire. You might get away with 16 AWG since it's not a constant 45W load, but ideally you'd want 15 AWG or larger for that distance to get under a 3% voltage drop. That would be a beefy cable for sure.

I'm curious where you got the 20V basis from for your calculations.

 

[j_hansen]

Would a 10 ft cable not take up same space/weight as a small powerbank anyway?

 

[jhimmel]

Hey all,

Anyone know exactly what specifications I would need to look for if I want to get a 10 USB Type C that will charge as fast and the cable that came with the Note10+?

Thanks.

I know you asked for 10', but if you think you could get by with 6.6', this one worked for me -
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07F...ag=hawk-future-20&ascsubtag=UUacUvbUpU6699729

Be aware that it's a fat bulky cable. I was surprised when I got it - didn't notice that from the pictures. Well made though.

 

[Hermes Hidayat]

Would a 10 ft cable not take up same space/weight as a small powerbank anyway?

It would. I have the Aukey CB-CD6 USB-C to USB-C 6.6ft Braided Cable... It does weigh more than a normal cable. But i wouldn't say it weighs like a small powerbank...

Im guessing OP wants the 25W or 45W charging capabilities...

 

[Mike_Luchia]

I know you asked for 10', but if you think you could get by with 6.6', this one worked for me -
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07F...ag=hawk-future-20&ascsubtag=UUacUvbUpU6700296

Be aware that it's a fat bulky cable. I was surprised when I got it - didn't notice that from the pictures. Well made though.

Looks great, unfortunately they won't ship to Canada.

 

[Hermes Hidayat]

First pic is Aukey 6.6ft, second is with Apple 6.6ft and lastly third is the cable which came with my N10+. (i tested with the adaptor which came with my N10+)

With this, i conclude that Apple's 6.6ft USB-C to USB-C works best.

Im not at all shocked... Apple's USB-C to USB-C can hold up 87W...

 

[Hermes Hidayat]

Okay i can confirm Apple's 6.6ft USB-C to USB-C works fine...

 

[j_hansen]

I'm surprised by the Aukey cable I must say, even if it is a 6 ft it should perform better than that.
I liked the app enough to get the paid add free version as well so looking forward to try it on the pack of 3 different cables I have coming this week.