12-05-2019 03:31 AM
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  1. Mike_Luchia's Avatar
    Hey all,

    Anyone know exactly what specifications I would need to look for if I want to get a 10 USB Type C that will charge as fast and the cable that came with the Note10+?

    Thanks.
    11-29-2019 06:52 PM
  2. TodaySteve's Avatar
    Why not get a long as you want USB extension and plug your samsung charge cable into it? Works great for me.
    Hermes Hidayat likes this.
    11-30-2019 02:35 AM
  3. Mike_Luchia's Avatar
    Because not every USB C cable charges at the same fast charge rate as the original. I've used multiple C cables and don't get the fast charging notification.
    11-30-2019 08:27 AM
  4. ezdoit's Avatar
    Because not every USB C cable charges at the same fast charge rate as the original. I've used multiple C cables and don't get the fast charging notification.
    Try this - it is what came in the box - can't find just the cable

    https://forums.androidcentral.com/e?...token=iu7ABwdc

    Specs for a 10 ft Note 10+ Fast charge cable-capture.jpg
    11-30-2019 08:38 AM
  5. j_hansen's Avatar
    Because not every USB C cable charges at the same fast charge rate as the original. I've used multiple C cables and don't get the fast charging notification.
    Have you turned fast charging on in the first place?
    On my unlocked Exynos model I can turn it on/off individually, wireless or cable and even time it so when charging wireless overnight it only does 5 watt charging
    11-30-2019 12:24 PM
  6. Mike_Luchia's Avatar
    Yes, it's on. It displays Fast Charging with the Samsung cable in the box but with any aftermarket cable is only shows Charging and the estimated time until full is longer.
    11-30-2019 12:42 PM
  7. Mooncatt's Avatar
    The universally capable cable spec (meaning it'll also be able to fully utilize the 45W charger) would be USB 3.1 Gen 2 or better. I seem to remember reading somewhere that 10 ft cables aren't currently possible to fully meet that spec (the increased length increases resistance and slows data/current below the spec requirement). That may have changed recently, but that's the spec to look for.
    11-30-2019 01:18 PM
  8. Mike_Luchia's Avatar
    Thank you, exactly what I was looking for.
    11-30-2019 02:42 PM
  9. Mooncatt's Avatar
    Thank you, exactly what I was looking for.
    You're welcome.

    I forgot to mention that if you see any references to having an e-mark (a special identifier chip in the cable), just ignore it. The USB 3.1 Gen 2 spec already requires that chip, so is redundant to say it has one. The Gen 1 spec and some USB 2.0 cables can also have that chip, but can not handle the full power of the 45W charger. So just because a cable listing claims to have that chip doesn't mean it's 100% compatible.
    11-30-2019 03:03 PM
  10. Rukbat's Avatar
    45 Watts at 20 Volts is 2.25 Amps. I wouldn't go for any smaller conductors than 22 gauge for 10 feet. That gives you a 1.16 Volt drop at the end of 10 feet - 5.78% - which will make a measurable (if small) difference in the charging time.

    But try to find the power conductor gauge in a charging cable - it's not listed anywhere that I've seen.

    That said, I use a good quality braided 10 foot cable on one charger (I can charge in the bedroom or living room) with no problem. All a thinner can;e is going to do is get warm (if it gets noticeably warm, it's too small, don't use it) and increase the charging time. It won't damage the charger or the phone.
    11-30-2019 03:18 PM
  11. Mooncatt's Avatar
    But try to find the power conductor gauge in a charging cable - it's not listed anywhere that I've seen.
    The Volutz brand lists their power wire size, and the 10 ft. cables are 19 gauge. Unfortunately, I don't think they have any proper spec'd cables to match the capabilities of the N10+. They seem to change up their product line often, and right now I'm not even seeing a USB C to C option. But hey, if you want a highly durable cable, these cables last a long long time.

    https://www.amazon.com/s?k=volutz+us...cUvbUpU6698961
    11-30-2019 03:50 PM
  12. Rukbat's Avatar
    19 gauge would only give a 0.36 Volt (1.81%) drop for 10 feet - that would be fine.
    11-30-2019 03:59 PM
  13. Mooncatt's Avatar
    At full power, the Samsung 45W charger is 4.5A@10V. That works out to a .72V drop (7.25%) over 10 feet on 19 AWG wire. You might get away with 16 AWG since it's not a constant 45W load, but ideally you'd want 15 AWG or larger for that distance to get under a 3% voltage drop. That would be a beefy cable for sure.

    I'm curious where you got the 20V basis from for your calculations.
    11-30-2019 04:55 PM
  14. j_hansen's Avatar
    Would a 10 ft cable not take up same space/weight as a small powerbank anyway?
    12-01-2019 02:56 PM
  15. jhimmel's Avatar
    Hey all,

    Anyone know exactly what specifications I would need to look for if I want to get a 10 USB Type C that will charge as fast and the cable that came with the Note10+?

    Thanks.
    I know you asked for 10', but if you think you could get by with 6.6', this one worked for me -
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07F3...cUvbUpU6699729

    Be aware that it's a fat bulky cable. I was surprised when I got it - didn't notice that from the pictures. Well made though.
    12-02-2019 03:28 AM
  16. Hermes Hidayat's Avatar
    Would a 10 ft cable not take up same space/weight as a small powerbank anyway?
    It would. I have the Aukey CB-CD6 USB-C to USB-C 6.6ft Braided Cable... It does weigh more than a normal cable. But i wouldn't say it weighs like a small powerbank...

    Im guessing OP wants the 25W or 45W charging capabilities...
    12-02-2019 08:54 AM
  17. Mike_Luchia's Avatar
    I know you asked for 10', but if you think you could get by with 6.6', this one worked for me -
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07F3...cUvbUpU6700296

    Be aware that it's a fat bulky cable. I was surprised when I got it - didn't notice that from the pictures. Well made though.
    Looks great, unfortunately they won't ship to Canada.
    12-03-2019 01:12 AM
  18. Hermes Hidayat's Avatar
    First pic is Aukey 6.6ft, second is with Apple 6.6ft and lastly third is the cable which came with my N10+. (i tested with the adaptor which came with my N10+)

    With this, i conclude that Apple's 6.6ft USB-C to USB-C works best.

    Im not at all shocked... Apple's USB-C to USB-C can hold up 87W...
    Attached Thumbnails Specs for a 10 ft Note 10+ Fast charge cable-screenshot_20191203-221548_ampere.jpg   Specs for a 10 ft Note 10+ Fast charge cable-screenshot_20191203-221656_ampere.jpg   Specs for a 10 ft Note 10+ Fast charge cable-screenshot_20191203-221828_ampere.jpg  
    12-03-2019 10:21 AM
  19. Hermes Hidayat's Avatar
    Okay i can confirm Apple's 6.6ft USB-C to USB-C works fine...
    Attached Thumbnails Specs for a 10 ft Note 10+ Fast charge cable-screenshot_20191203-222725_ampere.jpg  
    12-03-2019 10:28 AM
  20. j_hansen's Avatar
    I'm surprised by the Aukey cable I must say, even if it is a 6 ft it should perform better than that.
    I liked the app enough to get the paid add free version as well so looking forward to try it on the pack of 3 different cables I have coming this week.
    12-03-2019 11:05 AM
  21. Hermes Hidayat's Avatar
    I'm surprised by the Aukey cable I must say, even if it is a 6 ft it should perform better than that.
    I liked the app enough to get the paid add free version as well so looking forward to try it on the pack of 3 different cables I have coming this week.
    Aukry cable is kinda hit and miss... First time plugging in showed a red screen...
    Attached Thumbnails Specs for a 10 ft Note 10+ Fast charge cable-screenshot_20191203-221355_ampere.jpg  
    12-03-2019 11:08 AM
  22. msm0511's Avatar
    First pic is Aukey 6.6ft, second is with Apple 6.6ft and lastly third is the cable which came with my N10+. (i tested with the adaptor which came with my N10+)

    With this, i conclude that Apple's 6.6ft USB-C to USB-C works best.

    Im not at all shocked... Apple's USB-C to USB-C can hold up 87W...
    Apple's C to C cable is meant to charge MBP's which need a lot of power.
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    12-03-2019 04:21 PM
  23. Hermes Hidayat's Avatar
    Apple's C to C cable is meant to charge MBP's which need a lot of power.
    Okay... Was just posting info about 6.6ft cables...
    12-03-2019 08:22 PM
  24. Mike_Luchia's Avatar
    Okay i can confirm Apple's 6.6ft USB-C to USB-C works fine...
    Is the Apple C - C cable available somewhere other than Apple stores?
    12-04-2019 07:09 PM
  25. Hermes Hidayat's Avatar
    Is the Apple C - C cable available somewhere other than Apple stores?
    Erm.... I got mine from the Apple store. But i suppose you could get them anywhere else.
    12-04-2019 08:44 PM
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