1. NYKrumrie's Avatar
    I have a new Note 10. It's not the (+) model. There seems to be enough of a difference in the 2 types I thought I'd mention it here. I'm pretty happy with the battery life I'm getting so far. (I think I'm getting around 36-40 hrs with very light use per full charge. Does that sound good?) However I really do not like the basic "Battery Settings" option built in the phone. It gives you very very basic specs & stats. I go to settings/device care/battery. It shows a very basis progress bar that shows how much juice is left & the percentage. (ex. 10h 47m left 24%). You hit a Battery Usage & it shows some bar graphs from the past several days. Then there is a grey sloping graph showing battery usage. Below that it does show the apps that have used the most battery life. I'm sure I'm just being picky but I had a Moto Z b4 this phone & it had a great battery specs page. it shows things like.
    -Time since last full charge
    -Current battery life left in %
    -How many days, hours, mins of battery life left.
    -How many hours & mins have been spent.
    -Apps that have been using the most battery life since the last full charge.
    -Cool graph showing the max battery life & how it's progressing so far.

    I like these type of stats bcuase you can see if tweaks you make to the setting on the phone are having an effect on the over all battery life. I know in the past people have said battery optimizers apps might actaully cause greater battery drain. I'm not sure if that is still the case. I'm not really looking for an "optimizer" since the phone seems to have a nice built in option. I'm just curiuos if anyone can recommend a lite App that can give you much more detailed info about your Note 10 battery than what's built in.
    Thanks!
    01-13-2020 12:11 PM
  2. bbgpsuser's Avatar
    Samsung's "Galaxy Labs" has a "Battery Tracker" module which shows a little more information. You can get these in the Galaxy Store app.
    01-13-2020 01:42 PM
  3. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I like GSam Battery Monitor. https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...s.bbm&hl=en_US
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    01-13-2020 01:45 PM
  4. NYKrumrie's Avatar
    Cool! Thanks! I'll go check it out now. :-) So what would you expect the battery life to be on a full charge on a Note 10 in dark mode with the battery at the optimized setting that is used for some texting & a few short calls. No youtubing, TicToking or video taking? I'm just curious. Thanks!
    01-13-2020 02:25 PM
  5. Rukbat's Avatar
    A few days? That's really too individual to compare one phone to another of the same model. (Just don't let the battery drop below 40% and you'll be fine. When it drops to 40%, if you're not plugging a charger in, turn the phone off. GSam makes it easy - set the alarm [in preferences - hit the 3 dots in the lower right corner] for below 41%.)

    (Lithium batteries are not deep-discharge batteries. Discharging them below 40% regularly kills them [as in - you need to have the battery replaced kind of dead] very quickly. 50% is the ideal charge point, 45% is okay, but 40% is the turn-off point.)
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    01-13-2020 04:25 PM
  6. Jims S5's Avatar
    Does not sound correct
    01-13-2020 04:47 PM
  7. Rukbat's Avatar
    What doesn't sound correct?
    01-13-2020 04:52 PM
  8. adegbenroagoro's Avatar
    A few days? That's really too individual to compare one phone to another of the same model. (Just don't let the battery drop below 40% and you'll be fine. When it drops to 40%, if you're not plugging a charger in, turn the phone off. GSam makes it easy - set the alarm [in preferences - hit the 3 dots in the lower right corner] for below 41%.)

    (Lithium batteries are not deep-discharge batteries. Discharging them below 40% regularly kills them [as in - you need to have the battery replaced kind of dead] very quickly. 50% is the ideal charge point, 45% is okay, but 40% is the turn-off point.)
    Thank you very much. All these years I've been using this app and didn't know it had alarms. I've tried so many from Google Play store that were crap.
    01-14-2020 12:23 PM
  9. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    This would be my recommendation as well.
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    01-14-2020 12:55 PM
  10. NYKrumrie's Avatar
    Crap I read that when you 1st get the phone you are supposed to drain it from 100% til it dies a couple times to "condition" the battery. Is that wrong now? I've had the phone since christmas & I've been letting it get to the 15% power warning several times just to see how long the battery will actually last with light use. I'm at 35% & its been 25 hrs since it was charged to 100%. I'm going to plug it in now cus I'm concerned I've been given the wrong advance. I've had other phones & laptop batteries crap out very early over the last 4-5 years. I might have been treating them with old or wrong info. Any feedback would be great.
    Thanks!!
    01-15-2020 04:15 PM
  11. bbgpsuser's Avatar
    Crap I read that when you 1st get the phone you are supposed to drain it from 100% til it dies a couple times to "condition" the battery. Is that wrong now? I've had the phone since christmas & I've been letting it get to the 15% power warning several times just to see how long the battery will actually last with light use. I'm at 35% & its been 25 hrs since it was charged to 100%. I'm going to plug it in now cus I'm concerned I've been given the wrong advance. I've had other phones & laptop batteries crap out very early over the last 4-5 years. I might have been treating them with old or wrong info. Any feedback would be great.
    Thanks!!
    That is old info for NiCad batteries. It is not relevant to the battery in your phone. There is no need to condition the battery in your phone.
    01-15-2020 07:53 PM
  12. NYKrumrie's Avatar
    Thanks for clearing that up. Do you think I did any harm to the battery by doing the old "drain it til it dies" 2 or 3 times in the last 2-3 weeks?
    01-16-2020 11:42 AM
  13. mustang7757's Avatar
    Thanks for clearing that up. Do you think I did any harm to the battery by doing the old "drain it til it dies" 2 or 3 times in the last 2-3 weeks?
    Should be ok..
    01-16-2020 11:48 AM
  14. sublimaze's Avatar
    Fully draining the battery over 2-3 weeks won't make any difference in the long-term life of the battery. But if you do that every time for months, it increases wear and reduces battery life. As Rukbat noted, keeping the battery between 40-60% is best for long-term battery health.
    01-17-2020 10:19 AM
  15. the_boon's Avatar
    It's really impractical to have to micromanage your battery like that, trying hard to always have it between 40 - 80%. It really doesn't make sense.

    So basically you'd force yourself to only use 40% of the battery's capacity instead of using it normally to possibly end up with 80% capacity after 1.5 - 2 years?

    If you're really nuts about preserving it, just plug it at 20% and unplug at 90% (or anywhere in between as needed).

    That seems much more reasonable to me, than plugging in at 40% and unplugging at 80%, effectively using only 40% of its capacity.

    Worse case, a battery replacement should not cost more than $90, which is alot cheaper than a new phone. Even if you sell your old one in good shape with box and accessories.
    11-19-2020 10:39 AM
  16. mustang7757's Avatar
    Fully draining the battery over 2-3 weeks won't make any difference in the long-term life of the battery. But if you do that every time for months, it increases wear and reduces battery life. As Rukbat noted, keeping the battery between 40-60% is best for long-term battery health.
    It's really impractical to have to micromanage your battery like that, trying hard to always have it between 40 - 80%. It really doesn't make sense.

    So basically you'd force yourself to only use 40% of the battery's capacity instead of using it normally to possibly end up with 80% capacity after 1.5 - 2 years?

    If you're really nuts about preserving it, just plug it at 20% and unplug at 90% (or anywhere in between as needed).

    That seems much more reasonable to me, than plugging in at 40% and unplugging at 80%, effectively using only 40% of its capacity.

    Worse case, a battery replacement should not cost more than $90, which is alot cheaper than a new phone. Even if you sell your old one in good shape with box and accessories.
    My longest phone at moment is 3 years old a iphone x , I've charged that thing 5% to 100 % including wireless charging overnight and it's capacity is 87% still going strong , I do this with all my Android also.
    11-19-2020 11:35 AM
  17. the_boon's Avatar
    My longest phone at moment is 3 years old a iphone x , I've charged that thing 5% to 100 % including wireless charging overnight and it's capacity is 87% still going strong , I do this with all my Android also.
    It seems that the inconveniences of micromanaging the battery outweigh the advantages.
    I do agree on not letting it fall below 20% and charging slow if possible, but always keeping it between 40% - 60% seems completely ridiculous.

    "I'll only use 20% of my charge level so I can avoid a 20% degradation after two years of use" lol

    Btw how's the OLED screen holding up on that 3 year old iPhone X?

    I routinely see Samsung phones having moderate burn-in after just over a year or so of usage, but have never come across an iPhone with pink tint and/or other burn-in effects.
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    11-19-2020 12:07 PM
  18. mustang7757's Avatar
    It seems that the inconveniences of micromanaging the battery outweigh the advantages.
    I do agree on not letting it fall below 20% and charging slow if possible, but always keeping it between 40% - 60% seems completely ridiculous.

    "I'll only use 20% of my charge level so I can avoid a 20% degradation after two years of use" lol

    Btw how's the OLED screen holding up on that 3 year old iPhone X?

    I routinely see Samsung phones having moderate burn-in after just over a year or so of usage, but have never come across an iPhone with pink tint and/or other burn-in effects.
    So far the iPhone x no issues with screen color or burn in
    11-19-2020 01:40 PM
  19. the_boon's Avatar
    So far the iPhone x no issues with screen color or burn in
    And since Apple gets their OLED panels from Samsung, you'd think they would keep the best ones for their own phones instead lol
    11-19-2020 01:50 PM
  20. mustang7757's Avatar
    And since Apple gets their OLED panels from Samsung, you'd think they would keep the best ones for their own phones instead lol
    Don't forget apple does its own tweaks with panel .
    11-19-2020 03:47 PM
  21. Bodestone's Avatar
    For the battery issue I read 30% to 80% as optimal with no long term battery degradation but it is scale wise.

    If you can let the battery go down to 20-40% before charge and stop it after 90% but before 100% it will prelong the overall life of your battery.
    It is the tail end of charge/discharge that adds the damage.
    Why not let it drop to 10% then? What if you have a powercut? Also, why not keep it as close to optimal on at least one cycle?

    I am a fairly light use so tend to charge every couple of days once it drops below 40% and do so while working so I can have a chance of takeing it off before it hits 100 with the cable still in. If it's abiove 40% at bed time though I will charge it the next morning.

    Smart lights, smart plug and a smart USB passthough have added 3 separate apps to th phone which do seem to eat battery faster but do not show up in the battery usage stats though. I have a hunch that apps can mask usage by routing it through Android System.
    11-19-2020 06:42 PM
  22. mustang7757's Avatar
    For the battery issue I read 30% to 80% as optimal with no long term battery degradation but it is scale wise.

    If you can let the battery go down to 20-40% before charge and stop it after 90% but before 100% it will prelong the overall life of your battery.
    It is the tail end of charge/discharge that adds the damage.
    Why not let it drop to 10% then? What if you have a powercut? Also, why not keep it as close to optimal on at least one cycle?

    I am a fairly light use so tend to charge every couple of days once it drops below 40% and do so while working so I can have a chance of takeing it off before it hits 100 with the cable still in. If it's abiove 40% at bed time though I will charge it the next morning.

    Smart lights, smart plug and a smart USB passthough have added 3 separate apps to th phone which do seem to eat battery faster but do not show up in the battery usage stats though. I have a hunch that apps can mask usage by routing it through Android System.
    I wouldn't put too much into it , just charge how you like and you'll be fine.

    As for those apps masking themselves in battery stats under Android System can very well happen and sneaky lol
    11-19-2020 08:35 PM

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