02-14-2014 05:14 PM
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  1. jdub1981's Avatar
    That makes a lot of sense and I can see the practical applications of Knox. However I have attempted to install a custom recovery and then from the recovery flash a rom. I have made sure I'm using all resources designed for my device, the problem still remains that it will not boot into twrp after I flash it in odin. It reverts back to the stock recovery.

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    So it will take the root just fine after the flash in odin but then why are you flashing TWRP with odin as well? Download GooManager from the playstore for free. Open goomanager and go to options to "install recovery script". Tap that and it will install TWRP for you. If a TWRP update ever comes out in the future use Goomanager for that as well. Goomanager will autodownload the correct and most recent version of TWRP so no worries there.

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    12-24-2013 01:35 PM
  2. mhenne4's Avatar
    So it will take the root just fine after the flash in odin but then why are you flashing TWRP with odin as well? Download GooManager from the playstore for free. Open goomanager and go to options to "install recovery script". Tap that and it will install TWRP for you. If a TWRP update ever comes out in the future use Goomanager for that as well. Goomanager will autodownload the correct and most recent version of TWRP so no worries there.

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    Gonna be real honest here.

    I've been doing more reading and root is step one. I'm a noob to all of this. Gonna do a root now.

    For the record I was watching YouTube video about getting kit kat. He said twrp then install cwm, the use cwm to flash the rom I had my eye on b/c if twrp flashed it I would have no data.

    He made no mention of rooting so I figured that was the last step.


    Is cf auto root still the main way to root? I found a guide on xda for rooting

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    12-24-2013 01:41 PM
  3. UJ95x's Avatar
    Gonna be real honest here.

    I've been doing more reading and root is step one. I'm a noob to all of this. Gonna do a root now.

    For the record I was watching YouTube video about getting kit kat. He said twrp then install cwm, the use cwm to flash the rom I had my eye on b/c if twrp flashed it I would have no data.

    He made no mention of rooting so I figured that was the last step.


    Is cf auto root still the main way to root? I found a guide on xda for rooting

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    CF Auto root is the easiest way by far. Took less than a minute on my S4. Why would it say TWRP then flash CWM? TWRP does the same thing. No need to install one if you already have the other

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    12-24-2013 01:49 PM
  4. jdub1981's Avatar
    CF Auto root is the easiest way by far. Took less than a minute on my S4. Why would it say TWRP then flash CWM? TWRP does the same thing. No need to install one if you already have the other

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    Cf autoroot is my fav. Not sure if the root file is specific to carrier or not though.

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    12-24-2013 02:16 PM
  5. mhenne4's Avatar
    Cf autoroot is my fav. Not sure if the root file is specific to carrier or not though.

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    Cf was stupid easy. I am successfully rooted.

    Now it's either twrp/cwm. Use one of them to flash the actual rom I want.

    Now that I'm rooted what's this I always hear about making backups? Any suggestions?

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    12-24-2013 02:18 PM
  6. jdub1981's Avatar
    Gonna be real honest here.

    I've been doing more reading and root is step one. I'm a noob to all of this. Gonna do a root now.

    For the record I was watching YouTube video about getting kit kat. He said twrp then install cwm, the use cwm to flash the rom I had my eye on b/c if twrp flashed it I would have no data.

    He made no mention of rooting so I figured that was the last step.


    Is cf auto root still the main way to root? I found a guide on xda for rooting

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    Nothing can be done prior to root access. You must be rooted to flash anything custom. Also one rooted you may find that existing apps you have may have added functionality. Also there are quite a few root apps that are must haves after the root process is done. Titanium Backup is numero uno! Personally id do root first. Then download and install titanium backup. Run TB and in settings tell it to use External SD card to save backups. Then do a backup of all apps and data. This wille make it super easy to reinstall your apps in between rom changes.
    There are plenty of capable apps to add that need root access. Id look into this before changing roms. You may be able to get what you want without the risk/bugs of roms.

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    12-24-2013 02:21 PM
  7. jdub1981's Avatar
    After the above is done then go to appstore and get goomanager. Goomanager give you TWRP. CWM gives you nand backups and honestly I really know nothing about cwm as I have been exclusive to TWRP since day one. Having said all this, I ave to say that I have been happily unrooted for 4 months and would rather be this way then to constantly troubleshoot faulty roms. When you run a rom and then need help on a forum its to hard tohelp when the people arent running the same rom as you.

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    12-24-2013 02:28 PM
  8. jdub1981's Avatar
    Cf was stupid easy. I am successfully rooted.

    Now it's either twrp/cwm. Use one of them to flash the actual rom I want.

    Now that I'm rooted what's this I always hear about making backups? Any suggestions?

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    Read my post. Apparently I was typing it while you were typing yours.

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    12-24-2013 02:30 PM
  9. mhenne4's Avatar
    Read my post. Apparently I was typing it while you were typing yours.

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    Got titanium back up. From it I can destroy the bloatware, and other stuff right? Also when I rooted it it disabled Knox. Can I completely remove it with titanium?

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    12-24-2013 02:31 PM
  10. jdub1981's Avatar
    Got titanium back up. From it I can destroy the bloatware, and other stuff right? Also when I rooted it it disabled Knox. Can I completely remove it with titanium?

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    I do not believe Knox is an app, I should be system software. If you arw bent on romming then when you flash the rom it will generally have bloatware removed. Xda has the rom links. Just make sure to read the forums about bugs and what not before you attempt a flash. Also make sure said rom is for your phone Note 2 and each rom is carrier specific unless otherwise noted.

    Bloatware can be removed with titanium backup.

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    12-24-2013 02:37 PM
  11. jdub1981's Avatar
    One final note. Goomanager can be used to both flash roms and flash updates. Once rooted you cant get OTA updates which means no updates from Samsung and no updates from your carrier. Occasionally check XDA in the general note 2 group to see if updates have been pushed recently you can typicaly download them from xda. Then put them in the goomanager folder load the app and flash away.

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    12-24-2013 02:41 PM
  12. mhenne4's Avatar
    I do not believe Knox is an app, I should be system software. If you arw bent on romming then when you flash the rom it will generally have bloatware removed. Xda has the rom links. Just make sure to read the forums about bugs and what not before you attempt a flash. Also make sure said rom is for your phone Note 2 and each rom is carrier specific unless otherwise noted.

    Bloatware can be removed with titanium backup.

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    Yea I've been reading a lot about the roms. I might hold off and just stay rooted until more stable 4.4 roms come out.

    Truthfully all this has been motivated by not being able to use Google wallet since at&t blocked it. If I could stay on my current os and get nfc paying working I'd be quite happy.

    One last question, now that I'm rooted do I need a custom recovery? Or will the stock stuff still work?

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    12-24-2013 02:41 PM
  13. UJ95x's Avatar
    Cf was stupid easy. I am successfully rooted.

    Now it's either twrp/cwm. Use one of them to flash the actual rom I want.

    Now that I'm rooted what's this I always hear about making backups? Any suggestions?

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    Backups as in nandroid backups. Once in CWM or TWRP make a backup just in case anything bad happens, you can go back to the way your phone was when you did the nandroid backup. The first thing you have to do before flashing any ROMs

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    12-24-2013 02:43 PM
  14. jdub1981's Avatar
    Yea I've been reading a lot about the roms. I might hold off and just stay rooted until more stable 4.4 roms come out.

    Truthfully all this has been motivated by not being able to use Google wallet since at&t blocked it. If I could stay on my current os and get nfc paying working I'd be quite happy.

    One last question, now that I'm rooted do I need a custom recovery? Or will the stock stuff still work?

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    Stock should be fine. Recovery is more like a built in Odin. With a recovery you wont need to be tethered to a computer to flash roms. But since you arent doing roms for now I dont think you need it.

    Att blocked google wallet because our phone is missing a special security device that encrypts rfid data for use with nfc. They dont want you to blame them when your money gets stolen out of your account because some dude is using a portable scanner to steal your banking data.

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    12-24-2013 02:46 PM
  15. mhenne4's Avatar
    Stock should be fine. Recovery is more like a built in Odin. With a recovery you wont need to be tethered to a computer to flash roms. But since you arent doing roms for now I dont think you need it.

    Att blocked google wallet because our phone is missing a special security device that encrypts rfid data for use with nfc. They dont want you to blame them when your money gets stolen out of your account because some dude is using a portable scanner to steal your banking data.

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    Awesome. Guess I won't be fooling with that either.

    Guys I appreciate the friendly support and help here. I'll be in touch if I got any other questions.

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    12-24-2013 02:49 PM
  16. jdub1981's Avatar
    Awesome. Guess I won't be fooling with that either.

    Guys I appreciate the friendly support and help here. I'll be in touch if I got any other questions.

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    Forgot about one other thing with recovery. If you screw something up and your phone wont boot then recovery is the only thing that can fix it. Might be wise to go ahead and install it with goomanger just to be safe. Even if you never flash a custom rom is gives you a failsafe. Mybad for not saying this earlier.

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    12-24-2013 02:53 PM
  17. mhenne4's Avatar
    so download goomanager and use TWRP to make a nandroid backup(which from my understanding is a complete system image of what my phone was when the backup happened) just to have for safe keeping just in case?

    I probably wont be fooling with roms until i read a bit more about the popular ones and their stability.
    12-24-2013 03:02 PM
  18. jdub1981's Avatar
    so download goomanager and use TWRP to make a nandroid backup(which from my understanding is a complete system image of what my phone was when the backup happened) just to have for safe keeping just in case?

    I probably wont be fooling with roms until i read a bit more about the popular ones and their stability.
    Cwm is the recovery used to make a nandroid backup. TWRP makes afaik just a custom recovery. Titanium Backup is for your image. Id make a system image now prior to adding or changing anything related to rooting. Id also make a seperate backup exclusive to apps and data. Id suggest a Sandisk Ultra Highspeed 64Gb memory card. Youd thank me if you knew the difference between a fast and slow sd card.

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    12-24-2013 03:32 PM
  19. UJ95x's Avatar
    Cwm is the recovery used to make a nandroid backup. TWRP makes afaik just a custom recovery. Titanium Backup is for your image. Id make a system image now prior to adding or changing anything related to rooting. Id also make a seperate backup exclusive to apps and data. Id suggest a Sandisk Ultra Highspeed 64Gb memory card. Youd thank me if you knew the difference between a fast and slow sd card.

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    TWRP is the same as CWM. It can make nandroid back ups as well. The Nandroid backup is a system image, not Titanium.
    Titanium backs up app data, music, contacts and such. I'm pretty sure TBU doesn't do any complete system backups (images)

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    12-24-2013 04:31 PM
  20. tmp3150's Avatar
    Is there a way to use the su app, in flash mode? When I boot up, I have a message KNOX warranty void: 1, I am trying to get around that. Any help is appreciated..thanks!
    12-27-2013 09:48 PM
  21. dmxinc's Avatar
    Read this.....Keep in mind you may lose WIFI at first....... Read these threads before you do ANYTHING....
    BootLoader Downgrade from 4.3 and keep Wifi and Kill Knox - xda-developers
    Install SuperSU.
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...infire.supersu
    Read
    BootLoader Downgrade from 4.3 and keep Wifi and Kill Knox - xda-developers
    Step by Step:
    HOW-TO Downgrade from 4.3 OFFICIAL MK6 to LJ2 4.1.1 - xda-developers



    Alright, I have been unsatisfied with the note 2 4.3 OTA update from At&t. I spent the entire day today reading up on odin and putting custom recovery on then flashing custom roms to get what i wanted. I decided to pull the trigger after much reading. I fired up ODIN and put the latest TWRP onto my phone.

    All of this is after i have been a "good boy" and never touched anything about rooting or custom roms or recoveries. It goes without saying that I am outside my 1 yr warranty so i couldn't careless about that. After installing TWRP via ODIN i rebooted my phone into recovery mode and low and behold TWRP wont boot, and it stays in stock recovery mode. Does this have something to do with KNOX? Do i need to wait till TWRP is updated to compensate for KNOX?

    My phone still completely functions but i do have a "custom binary download" of 2 counts (tried installing TWRP a second time after it didnt work the first) and a "KNOX warranty void" 1.

    Again my phone is outside of factory warranty and i dont really give 2 ****s about knox anyway. My desire is to get a kitkat rom installed and get google wallet NFC payment functional b/c AT&T really chapped my rear trying to make me use ISIS.

    Any help is appreciated in this slightly noob question.
    12-30-2013 07:03 PM
  22. triolight's Avatar
    Guys, please help me out


    after reading several pages and threads I still with one doubt:

    I have stock 4.3. mk4. knox bootloader on it.

    I was able to root (chainfire) and to install TWRP.

    I read everywere that I cannot downgrade, This is clear for me.

    But can i install DN3 or Wanam 4.3 custom ROM or knox will still block it?

    All customROM will be blocked?
    02-09-2014 07:51 PM
  23. ladyfinesse08's Avatar
    So the problem I'm essentially now is I'm rooted but I can't flash a custom recovery. I've tried flashing TWRP and CWM via ODIN and it gives me the pass notification every time. However once I try to boot into custom recovery I boot into the system recovery. Also apps like titanium backup, goomanager, my root backup and stuff wont work for me. I know I have root though as when I boot into recovery it tells me that I'm running a custom binary and shows my flash count along with my 1 time Knox trip.
    02-14-2014 05:12 PM
  24. ladyfinesse08's Avatar
    I've tried to use GooManager to install a custom recovery and It keeps freezing on me and telling me that it's installing the recovery (nothing happens though)
    02-14-2014 05:14 PM
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