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  1. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    The N10 is great until you use it in portrait mode. Then it suffers from what every other Android tablet suffers from IMO.

    In portrait mode, the tablet is just too oblong. I feel like I am reading a book made with legal sized paper. I much prefer the iPad in portrait mode compared to Android tablets.
    The only time I'd use mine in portrait mode would be to read books but I don't see myself doing that. I much prefer a physical book. But when I tried it anyway I saw what you mean.

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    01-21-2013 05:31 PM
  2. cornettbr's Avatar
    Ok. Well I am back on android after a 1 for 1 swap. Iphone 5 for note 2. Being that i have had only android phones I feel compelled to do a comparison. First off for all of the people saying android is smoother or works better, you clearly didn't spend a whole lot of time with the iphone5. Because hands down ios is amazingly smooth. Far fewer errors than with my note 2 I am currently using. That being said being in the military facetime was the biggest feature I miss from ios is facetime because it was a lot easier to see my family. Specially my dying grandmother. The integration of the program into the operating system is one thing that google needs to catch up on. Yeah now I use skype but facetime was much easier. But I did switch back to android for a reason. With aple I felt completely locked down and the phone although it was incredibly smooth was extremely boring. If it had half the features android did in the os I believe it would fall far behind in how smooth it runs. The apps for iphone were definitely higher quality usually but they were also ridiculously priced and id just never go there. Camera on iphone5 definitely better. But this one is still decent. But biggest reason I came back is the iphone 5 screen just sucked. It was so small. I had ahard time doing anything on it. The speakers for music or speaker phone on the iphone 5 were also better, my note is just too quiet. But my note 2 is very snappy and fluid. I would say it runs android far better than the s3 so it would compare but be just slightly less fluid than the iphone. But taking into account the extra features my note had I say it is an over all win. Apple does do a lot of things very nicely with ios. I would like to see video chat built in to the Android operating system. Also less errors and reboots being needed. But for those of you who just write Apple off are burying their heads in the sand and trying to avoid seeing other things another operating system has to offer. Android is not the superior Os in every aspect but it is one I prefer. But I do see why now that apple does have the fan base it has. I took the time and tested both out very thoroughly. I like Android better but I do miss features on the iphone.
    01-22-2013 06:52 AM
  3. drewtenn's Avatar
    Ok. Well I am back on android after a 1 for 1 swap. Iphone 5 for note 2. Being that i have had only android phones I feel compelled to do a comparison. First off for all of the people saying android is smoother or works better, you clearly didn't spend a whole lot of time with the iphone5. Because hands down ios is amazingly smooth. Far fewer errors than with my note 2 I am currently using. That being said being in the military facetime was the biggest feature I miss from ios is facetime because it was a lot easier to see my family. Specially my dying grandmother. The integration of the program into the operating system is one thing that google needs to catch up on. Yeah now I use skype but facetime was much easier. But I did switch back to android for a reason. With aple I felt completely locked down and the phone although it was incredibly smooth was extremely boring. If it had half the features android did in the os I believe it would fall far behind in how smooth it runs. The apps for iphone were definitely higher quality usually but they were also ridiculously priced and id just never go there. Camera on iphone5 definitely better. But this one is still decent. But biggest reason I came back is the iphone 5 screen just sucked. It was so small. I had ahard time doing anything on it. The speakers for music or speaker phone on the iphone 5 were also better, my note is just too quiet. But my note 2 is very snappy and fluid. I would say it runs android far better than the s3 so it would compare but be just slightly less fluid than the iphone. But taking into account the extra features my note had I say it is an over all win. Apple does do a lot of things very nicely with ios. I would like to see video chat built in to the Android operating system. Also less errors and reboots being needed. But for those of you who just write Apple off are burying their heads in the sand and trying to avoid seeing other things another operating system has to offer. Android is not the superior Os in every aspect but it is one I prefer. But I do see why now that apple does have the fan base it has. I took the time and tested both out very thoroughly. I like Android better but I do miss features on the iphone.
    Like you, I came from ios. I've been an apple user since the first iphone. I just picked up my note 2 a couple of weeks ago. You're right Apple does give users a very clean interface and they do lock you down in how you can customize your phone. The only reason I switched is because I started a new job doing Android development. So far I'm loving the phone. I don't have the errors and reboots your experiencing though.

    I tried out the first Google nexus phone years ago and hated it. Google and Android has come a long way since then.


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    01-22-2013 08:27 AM
  4. tirith's Avatar
    It all boils down to personal preference... So can the sheeple quit trolling the thread now?



    Swyped from my Galaxy Note II on the Now Network
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    01-22-2013 08:51 AM
  5. Mellimel22's Avatar
    It all boils down to personal preference... So can the sheeple quit trolling the thread now?



    Swyped from my Galaxy Note II on the Now Network
    +1 haha face time sucks as compared to tango and oovoo

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    01-22-2013 09:04 AM
  6. aaronbuescher's Avatar
    I have some reasons why the new note is better than the iPhone 5.

    with the keyboard you swipe write , or heck, even install a new keyboard. You cannot do that with iPhone 5

    you can actually watch a 720 p video

    the voice recognition software is a lot better. My dad has ipad 3 and siri is kinda wsck Imo.

    you can get to the settings much quicker

    I've come to find out that a lot more games are free.

    plus the music is a lot cheaper most of the time for the same quality on the Google play store compared to the App Store

    Jelly bean is a lot more fun to use than iOS 5

    Lastly you can install a launcher to make your note look like a Nexus.

    However I probably am a little biased because I love Android and iOS is only good on tablets, to me.


    Sent from my White Galaxy Note II
    01-22-2013 09:05 AM
  7. Andyvalver's Avatar
    Ok. Well I am back on android after a 1 for 1 swap. Iphone 5 for note 2. Being that i have had only android phones I feel compelled to do a comparison. First off for all of the people saying android is smoother or works better, you clearly didn't spend a whole lot of time with the iphone5. Because hands down ios is amazingly smooth. Far fewer errors than with my note 2 I am currently using. That being said being in the military facetime was the biggest feature I miss from ios is facetime because it was a lot easier to see my family. Specially my dying grandmother. The integration of the program into the operating system is one thing that google needs to catch up on. Yeah now I use skype but facetime was much easier. But I did switch back to android for a reason. With aple I felt completely locked down and the phone although it was incredibly smooth was extremely boring. If it had half the features android did in the os I believe it would fall far behind in how smooth it runs. The apps for iphone were definitely higher quality usually but they were also ridiculously priced and id just never go there. Camera on iphone5 definitely better. But this one is still decent. But biggest reason I came back is the iphone 5 screen just sucked. It was so small. I had ahard time doing anything on it. The speakers for music or speaker phone on the iphone 5 were also better, my note is just too quiet. But my note 2 is very snappy and fluid. I would say it runs android far better than the s3 so it would compare but be just slightly less fluid than the iphone. But taking into account the extra features my note had I say it is an over all win. Apple does do a lot of things very nicely with ios. I would like to see video chat built in to the Android operating system. Also less errors and reboots being needed. But for those of you who just write Apple off are burying their heads in the sand and trying to avoid seeing other things another operating system has to offer. Android is not the superior Os in every aspect but it is one I prefer. But I do see why now that apple does have the fan base it has. I took the time and tested both out very thoroughly. I like Android better but I do miss features on the iphone.

    I agree with all of this. I just came from an iphone to a note 2. I love the note 2 but it isnt as fluid as ios. But ios is dull and boring. If apple make ios 7 customisable so its more like android I could see myself returning. Well, if they make a bigger phone too lol


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    01-22-2013 09:34 AM
  8. cornettbr's Avatar
    I agree with all of this. I just came from an iphone to a note 2. I love the note 2 but it isnt as fluid as ios. But ios is dull and boring. If apple make ios 7 customisable so its more like android I could see myself returning. Well, if they make a bigger phone too lol


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    Also siri was pretty awesome way better at recognizing words than googles and s voice
    01-22-2013 10:06 AM
  9. rkeenan's Avatar
    Also siri was pretty awesome way better at recognizing words than googles and s voice
    Google voice search > Siri > S voice. Siri is ok but let's be realistic, it is years behind Google voice search. Google has been developing it long before Siri.
    01-22-2013 10:14 AM
  10. tirith's Avatar
    S voice understand everything I say.

    You know what any android does better and easier than an iPhone?

    Download ringtones.

    Swyped from my Galaxy Note II on the Now Network
    01-22-2013 10:18 AM
  11. rabernet's Avatar
    My boyfriend has a feature phone due for an upgrade. Took him by Verizon last night to look at iPhones because he's technology challenged and thought it would be a good entry level smart phone for him.

    Wow that thing is small! We left with no upgrade. He's happy with the phone he has.

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    01-22-2013 10:19 AM
  12. rkeenan's Avatar
    The N10 is great until you use it in portrait mode. Then it suffers from what every other Android tablet suffers from IMO.

    In portrait mode, the tablet is just too oblong. I feel like I am reading a book made with legal sized paper. I much prefer the iPad in portrait mode compared to Android tablets.
    Agreed. I need need a tablet for college textbooks and I still can't decide. The iPad is built well but I am partial to Android. Biggest iOS draw back is the lack of support for a wide selection of video types. I owned an iPad before and it was really limited on what movies I could load onto it.
    01-22-2013 10:21 AM
  13. justafew's Avatar
    I too came from an iPhone. Had every iPhone since the 3G and really loved them. Then I started getting bored with it as it doesn't allow you to customize anything. I played with the Samsung Galaxy S2, but it had lots of annoying things that irked me too much and I returned to the iPhone.

    But I was very intrigued at what you could do on an Android that you couldn't do on an iPhone and after the Galaxy S3 came out with a much sleeker Touchwiz, I played with it for a while and really loved it. So I made the leap to the Note 2 and haven't looked back. The fact that you can change the keyboard to something more your liking, you can expand notifications, multi-tasking is true multi-tasking and not just a "saved" state, widgets, launchers (Nova!), lockscreen replacements like WidgetLocker and I could go on and on. The interesting thing is that Apple has stated in past commercials that there's an app for that. But on Android, that is actually more accurate. If you don't like the way the device does something, more than likely there is an app that can tweak/tailor it to do what you would like for it to do.

    At first I missed Siri, but then I found Dragon Mobile Assistant which is much better and will even start applications for you. And I find that Google Text-to-Speech when composing messages is more accurate and faster than Apple's.

    The only things I miss from the iPhone:

    Facetime, but I'm starting to use Skype (which is cross-platform capable so I think I'll like it better in the long run anyway)

    Immediate software updates. Being able to download a new version of the OS as soon as it's available rather than waiting for Samsung to update, then the carriers to test before finally getting it rolled out to my device. Granted Samsung is doing MUCH better than when I had the Galaxy S2 and Android/manufacturers overall have significantly improved in this area. Example, JellyBean 4.1.2 was announced in October and I just got the update last week on my Note 2. However, with that said, you could argue the fact regarding iOS even if they do make it widely available on a given date. Example, iOS 6 was announced at WWDC on June 11, but wasn't made available until September. The biggest advantage is that all compatible iOS devices get it on the first day of availability, whereas if you have a slightly older Android device, you may have to wait months to get what another Android device has (or you may never get it depending on the priority of the device manufacturer).

    Camera quick start. This is the one feature that I miss the most. I loved being able to just drag up on the camera directly from the lockscreen on the iPhone and the camera would open w/o unlocking your device. This was an outstanding feature as I am required by my company's policy to have an alpha/numeric password on my phone which often hampers me from getting my camera open in time to catch that priceless snapshot. Even though you can put a camera shortcut on the lockscreen, I still have to unlock the phone before the camera opens and anyone with kids knows, if you take too long you miss out on the opportunity for a great shot.

    As others have said, it's a matter of personal preference. I recently got an iPhone 5 for my wife. She doesn't now, nor will she ever, see the need to customize her phone. She likes to do a few things on her device and doesn't want to "learn" how to do it on a new phone, despite my efforts to get her to switch to an S3. And she likes the smaller size of the iPhone, which is perfect for her when she mostly uses it as a phone, to text and Facebook.
    01-22-2013 11:21 AM
  14. zolgi's Avatar
    I don't know if you follow technology like me but its not who does it first. It's who can take it and make it useful for the general public and make it affordable and reliable.

    For example, Henry Ford didn't invent the automobile.
    General public? When Nokia did it. It worked every phone that supports video calling. No need for apps like tango or whatever it was like any other phone call, just with video. When apple did facetime, it was only in wifi and only with apple devices lol. Then they add later 3g... Only thing where Apple is ahead everyone is marketing, nothing more.
    01-22-2013 11:26 AM
  15. Bobman's Avatar
    I have it and have been very happy with it. I use stream to me and it plays all formats om 1080p perfectly. Airplay om my Mac to tv is awesome.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
    Yep. I love my Apple TV. I mostly use it for Netflix but also use Airplay mirroring to mirror the display of my MacBook Air on the TV. I've also started loading my DVDs and Blurays onto a NAS and it will stream them. Also looking to upgrade software to Firecore to expand functionality.
    01-22-2013 12:23 PM
  16. Johnly's Avatar
    I just have a full blown PC hooked up to my tv lol. Beats propriety tv every day of the week imo.

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    01-22-2013 01:31 PM
  17. Johnly's Avatar
    I have some reasons why the new note is better than the iPhone 5.

    with the keyboard you swipe write , or heck, even install a new keyboard. You cannot do that with iPhone 5

    you can actually watch a 720 p video

    the voice recognition software is a lot better. My dad has ipad 3 and siri is kinda wsck Imo.

    you can get to the settings much quicker

    I've come to find out that a lot more games are free.

    plus the music is a lot cheaper most of the time for the same quality on the Google play store compared to the App Store

    Jelly bean is a lot more fun to use than iOS 5

    Lastly you can install a launcher to make your note look like a Nexus.

    However I probably am a little biased because I love Android and iOS is only good on tablets, to me.


    Sent from my White Galaxy Note II
    The iphone is okay..... Does what it is supposed to. I had my Apple time ha ha. The note outperforms the iphone in many categories. I would recommend grandma get one. They are easy app trays. For anyone else? Get a super phone.
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  18. badbrad17's Avatar
    Ok. Well I am back on android after a 1 for 1 swap. Iphone 5 for note 2. Being that i have had only android phones I feel compelled to do a comparison. First off for all of the people saying android is smoother or works better, you clearly didn't spend a whole lot of time with the iphone5. Because hands down ios is amazingly smooth. Far fewer errors than with my note 2 I am currently using. That being said being in the military facetime was the biggest feature I miss from ios is facetime because it was a lot easier to see my family. Specially my dying grandmother. The integration of the program into the operating system is one thing that google needs to catch up on. Yeah now I use skype but facetime was much easier. But I did switch back to android for a reason. With aple I felt completely locked down and the phone although it was incredibly smooth was extremely boring. If it had half the features android did in the os I believe it would fall far behind in how smooth it runs. The apps for iphone were definitely higher quality usually but they were also ridiculously priced and id just never go there. Camera on iphone5 definitely better. But this one is still decent. But biggest reason I came back is the iphone 5 screen just sucked. It was so small. I had ahard time doing anything on it. The speakers for music or speaker phone on the iphone 5 were also better, my note is just too quiet. But my note 2 is very snappy and fluid. I would say it runs android far better than the s3 so it would compare but be just slightly less fluid than the iphone. But taking into account the extra features my note had I say it is an over all win. Apple does do a lot of things very nicely with ios. I would like to see video chat built in to the Android operating system. Also less errors and reboots being needed. But for those of you who just write Apple off are burying their heads in the sand and trying to avoid seeing other things another operating system has to offer. Android is not the superior Os in every aspect but it is one I prefer. But I do see why now that apple does have the fan base it has. I took the time and tested both out very thoroughly. I like Android better but I do miss features on the iphone.
    Thanks for the honest critique. I have been saying for years that the one thing Apple has always done better than Android was the touch screen response and scrolling. Even after project butter I feel that Apple still had an edge. That was until I got my Nexus 4. It is super smooth and responds very fast to everything. That doesn't mean that some poorly designed apps don't lag a bit at times but over all this phone is smooth as silk.

    I think that part of the issue is that so many Android phones are pushing a ton into a GPU that can't always handle it. Add in a bunch of bloatware and it slows things down. Apple keeps things clean like Nexus devices so they handle it better. The os shuts things down and dedicates the GPU more efficiently. Android is powering through it by adding faster processors etc. which is fine but up until this phone it's always bugged me.

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    01-22-2013 05:01 PM
  19. xlDeMoNiClx's Avatar
    Thanks for the honest critique. I have been saying for years that the one thing Apple has always done better than Android was the touch screen response and scrolling. Even after project butter I feel that Apple still had an edge. That was until I got my Nexus 4. It is super smooth and responds very fast to everything. That doesn't mean that some poorly designed apps don't lag a bit at times but over all this phone is smooth as silk.

    I think that part of the issue is that so many Android phones are pushing a ton into a GPU that can't always handle it. Add in a bunch of bloatware and it slows things down. Apple keeps things clean like Nexus devices so they handle it better. The os shuts things down and dedicates the GPU more efficiently. Android is powering through it by adding faster processors etc. which is fine but up until this phone it's always bugged me.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums
    Well Nexus is pure Android and Google clearly wants to keep it that way and as such doesn't really put much in in terms of bloatware. It's designed the name way Apple does things with iOS, nice and smooth. If it weren't for then lack of features I probably would have gotten one already.

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  20. Johnly's Avatar
    Thanks for the honest critique. I have been saying for years that the one thing Apple has always done better than Android was the touch screen response and scrolling. Even after project butter I feel that Apple still had an edge. That was until I got my Nexus 4. It is super smooth and responds very fast to everything. That doesn't mean that some poorly designed apps don't lag a bit at times but over all this phone is smooth as silk.

    I think that part of the issue is that so many Android phones are pushing a ton into a GPU that can't always handle it. Add in a bunch of bloatware and it slows things down. Apple keeps things clean like Nexus devices so they handle it better. The os shuts things down and dedicates the GPU more efficiently. Android is powering through it by adding faster processors etc. which is fine but up until this phone it's always bugged me.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums
    Apple is polished. The end experience is simply beautiful. No denying that. Less bugs? You bet. My note has had a couple hiccups, but for the features I get, I can live with that. It really does boil down to what you prefer. I dont really think the iphone has any "real" advantage for all the missing features especially. I do love the phone design of the iphone. It is like a fine watch.

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    01-22-2013 07:13 PM
  21. tewest86's Avatar
    General public? When Nokia did it. It worked every phone that supports video calling. No need for apps like tango or whatever it was like any other phone call, just with video. When apple did facetime, it was only in wifi and only with apple devices lol. Then they add later 3g... Only thing where Apple is ahead everyone is marketing, nothing more.
    No, ATT only allowed it on wifi not Apple.
    01-22-2013 10:35 PM
  22. badbrad17's Avatar
    Well Nexus is pure Android and Google clearly wants to keep it that way and as such doesn't really put much in in terms of bloatware. It's designed the name way Apple does things with iOS, nice and smooth. If it weren't for then lack of features I probably would have gotten one already.

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    Get the Nexus 4. You will not be disappointed.

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    01-22-2013 11:05 PM
  23. Jude526's Avatar
    Stay with apple. I however love my Note2

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    01-22-2013 11:11 PM
  24. badbrad17's Avatar
    Apple is polished. The end experience is simply beautiful. No denying that. Less bugs? You bet. My note has had a couple hiccups, but for the features I get, I can live with that. It really does boil down to what you prefer. I dont really think the iphone has any "real" advantage for all the missing features especially. I do love the phone design of the iphone. It is like a fine watch.

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    I've always said that a product that does less and is less innovative is much easier to manage. Add in the fact that you only have one company manufacturing the phone and it gets better again. But it has become clear that Apple will have a tough time trying to compete against Google, Samsung, HTC, LG, Motorola, Asus, Huawei, ZTE etc. Plus battle Microsoft and RIM as they battle back. Google has many partners wanting them to succeed while Apple has many enemies wanting them to fail. As much as all of Google's competitors hate it, they (as Apple found out) have to support Google products. The Google Octopus is too big now.

    I honestly hate Apple simply for how they operate, but I do hope they can continue to do well and keep pushing innovation. But unfortunately right now I doubt there are very few features on any Apple products that are keeping Sergei Brinn, Larry Page and Eric Schmidt up at night. 2 years ago that was not the case. In fact I think the situation is now reversed. I bet Tim Cook has many sleepless nights.

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    01-22-2013 11:16 PM
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    Oops double post
    01-22-2013 11:18 PM
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