When will the media and public's love affair with the iPhone end?

[nrm5110]

Nope, the other one only allows you to add more Gmail accounts.

Perhaps its a Verizon thing to not allow gmail in the stock email app.

Im on a gs2 skyrocket so its different but I am on a jb leak so its stock firmware. There is always a way let me do some digging real quick.

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[MrMLK]

Let's not forget that Apple stores have a "Genius bar" for advanced help for iPhony fans, haha! I don't see any guys labeled "genius" for Android help!
Fortunately, we have AndroidCentral for the rest of us non-Apple types, hyuck yuck!

It's comments like this that I was talking about when I said that Android fans are just as bad as Apple ones.

What possible reason would you have for thinking its funny that Apple supplies support for people who need help? One of the reason that Apple has such a fiercely loyal following is that any apple customer can make an appointment and go talk to a specialist with almost no notice. In or out of warranty, any Apple customer can get help on any issue related to their device. That's a huge selling point for Apple.

Do you think Android hardware and software is so perfect and simple that no one would ever need help from a live person?

 

[nrm5110]

attached are the incoming and outgoing settings for gmail try to manually setup your account on the default email app

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[MrMLK]

attached are the incoming and outgoing settings for gmail try to manually setup your account on the default email app

Thanks for the info. I will try it out tonight.

Having said that, you are kind of making my point for me. Getting Gmail and Exchange accounts into the default email client is a lot more complicated on Android then it is on iOS.

 

[nrm5110]

Thanks for the info. I will try it out tonight.

Having said that, you are kind of making my point for me. Getting Gmail and Exchange accounts into the default email client is a lot more complicated on Android then it is on iOS.

Normally such is not the case good sir as my default email app all I do is sign into gmail and it sets up automatically I gave you that as I am unsure of your email app. My army email is a bit involved but it is the same setup on ios so its no easier or worse. The actual android email app is also the same way with me super easy. Im not trying to speak against your point as it is true obviously on some devices but I think your particular issue lies in your devices overlay not in android itself.

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[nrm5110]

Just as a point im an IT specialist both for the national guard and civilian side I have a slightly higher knowledge level on this stuff than your average user.

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[MrMLK]

Im not trying to speak against your point as it is true obviously on some devices but I think your particular issue lies in your devices overlay not in android itself.

Which just makes my point even more strongly. WIth iOS, core functionality works the same on every device. For any Apple device in the last three years or more, setting up email accounts works exactly the same. In fact, almost everything works exactly the same.

Because of the fragmentation of the Android market, even basic stuff like setting up email can be wildly different from one phone to the next, or even on the same phone from different carriers. No one cares what stock Android does. People care what their phone does.

This just makes it even more complicated for non-technical folks, which is most of the folks out there.

 

[Mellimel22]

Where I think its harder it in three specific areas.

1) Setting up the phone for the first time (If you arn't exclusively using gmail for mail/calendar/tasks)
2) Transferring and organizing content on the device
3) Moving from one device to the next.

I live in fear of the day I have to upgrade my phone.

ARE U KIDDING LOL IT'S SOOOO easy to do all those things on Android especially #3. Like others posted itunes is crap pure crap. I hate when my iphone friends download that trash on my pc slows the hell out of it.:banghead:

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[Mellimel22]

Which just makes my point even more strongly. WIth iOS, core functionality works the same on every device. For any Apple device in the last three years or more, setting up email accounts works exactly the same. In fact, almost everything works exactly the same.

Because of the fragmentation of the Android market, even basic stuff like setting up email can be wildly different from one phone to the next, or even on the same phone from different carriers. No one cares what stock Android does. People care what their phone does.

This just makes it even more complicated for non-technical folks, which is most of the folks out there.

And what iPhone fans call fragmentation I call CHOICE. And it's beautiful :beer:

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[Ry]

And what iPhone fans call fragmentation I call CHOICE. And it's beautiful :beer:

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Tell that to the Android fans complaining about how some devices don't have SD card slots, or low internal memory, or a non-removable battery.

Choice. The beauty of Android.

 

[anon(94115)]

They still have choices. May not always be the choice they want, but that is life.

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[maxburn]

When will the media and public's love affair with the iPhone end?

When people don't feel the need to talk about it on a very specific sub forum of an android dedicated site.

 

[retsaw]

The media will never let go of the iPhone. Apple gets all the attention. Next time you check out a movie or TV show, see what kind of computer or phone they are using.

I don't watch a lot of tv, but when I do notice a computer being used it often seems to be something generic running a customized (most likely Linux based) UI with a custom fake email/IM /whatever app, presumably because they don't want to provide free product placement.

 

[Ry]

You all must have hated the episode of Modern Family where Phil wants an iPad for his birthday.

 

[TheOtherBill]

Which just makes my point even more strongly. WIth iOS, core functionality works the same on every device.

Yes, both of them!

Henry Ford eventually learned that he had to have other colors besides black. If Apple wants to give people only 1 choice, they'll go to someone else. That is why the GSIII is #1 and 70% of the world uses android smartphones. That said, I think they've always chosen to be a niche player, I've yet to see anything from them that makes it look like they are really trying to please more than their core group - they just want to try to put more people into that group.

They still have choices. May not always be the choice they want, but that is life.

Free market comes into play here. If you look at the GN2 vs. DNA threads, see how many people won't get the DNA because it has no swappable battery or SD card. While that may not be enough to convince HTC to add those features, I am sure it's enough to convince another manufacturer to make sure they don't drop them.

 

[anon(94115)]

Yes, both of them!

Henry Ford eventually learned that he had to have other colors besides black. If Apple wants to give people only 1 choice, they'll go to someone else. That is why the GSIII is #1 and 70% of the world uses android smartphones. That said, I think they've always chosen to be a niche player, I've yet to see anything from them that makes it look like they are really trying to please more than their core group - they just want to try to put more people into that group.



Free market comes into play here. If you look at the GN2 vs. DNA threads, see how many people won't get the DNA because it has no swappable battery or SD card. While that may not be enough to convince HTC to add yhose features, I am sure it's enough to convince another manufacturer to make sure they don't drop them.

Hey apple did too, the i5s is supposed to come in 8 colors

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[badbrad17]

It was dropped, but there are over 50 other programs still available. I have used 2 of them (Azul Media Player and CInXPlayer) and they have worked for every file I have thrown at them.

That's really good to know. Why was VLC cancelled?

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[badbrad17]

Thanks for the info. I will try it out tonight.

Having said that, you are kind of making my point for me. Getting Gmail and Exchange accounts into the default email client is a lot more complicated on Android then it is on iOS.

Okay I have to jump in to say that although it may be more difficult for you to set this up, I run a Web design company and I host over 400 companies on our server. The absolute most trouble we have setting up email accounts is bar none Apple devices. We have had 2 clients sitting in the room with the same phones trying to set up email. One iphone works perfectly while the other doesn't. Yesterday I spent 20 minutes trying to set up an account on an iPad. It just wouldn't work. I have set up thousands of email accounts on many different computers and devices. Android works by far the easiest. Windows is second. Then BlackBerry. Then OSX. Then iOS. I wish it wasn't so, but it's the truth after 20 years of doing it.

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[Mellimel22]

Ok then DONT BUY THAT MODEL LOL. I like I said it's all about CHOICE. Lol

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[SOTK]

Which just makes my point even more strongly. WIth iOS, core functionality works the same on every device. For any Apple device in the last three years or more, setting up email accounts works exactly the same. In fact, almost everything works exactly the same.

Because of the fragmentation of the Android market, even basic stuff like setting up email can be wildly different from one phone to the next, or even on the same phone from different carriers. No one cares what stock Android does. People care what their phone does.

This just makes it even more complicated for non-technical folks, which is most of the folks out there.

Dude, why don't you go back to Apple, seriously? You've posted and posted in this thread how simple iOS and iTunes is. You've complained about fragmentation and have espoused Apple's consistent OS architecture ad nauseum. Seems pretty clear to me Apple is for you.

Either go back to Apple or spend some more time researching Android. The email client which comes with the N2 is easy for setting up exchange accounts. You can actually have Gmail pour into this email client as well and forgo using the Gmail app. As for music/videos/pictures and the like, Double Twist with Air Sync works very efficiently. I install the free Double Twist app for me PC and use it as media manager. It's super easy for syncing. If Double Twist doesn't work on the Mac, blame Apple.

Personally, I don't get people who use Android in conjunction with Apple based computers. You talk about ease of use. Why would you buy a phone which has known difficulties communicating with the computing platform you have chosen to use?

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