06-03-2013 08:40 PM
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  1. HafeezAkmal's Avatar
    i'm a BlackBerry hardcore user myself. tried the BB Z10 & i've to admit that the software tweaks can't be considered as little. it was way too much better than their legacy OS. but personally, i prefer the Note 2 than the new BB. in terms of functionality, IMO the Note 2 still win hands down. some people said that Androids are all but gimmicky, but guess what - i used to leave the Note (N7000) for a BB Torch 9810 but then went back to a better choice - the Note 2!
    03-17-2013 11:04 AM
  2. kfh227's Avatar
    I have a Motorola Droid 3.

    I am sick of rebooting it every day. I am sick of it thinking I am still in my car 2 hours after I leave it (still connected via "bluetooth"). Headphone jack broke after 6 months. And plenty of other things I don't like about the phone.

    Yes, it is a few versions old. And I am done. I will never get an Apple. And quite frankly, for what I do (e-mail, phone, web browsing, MP3s), I am getting a Z10. If the Z10 didn't get great reviews I'd get another Android.

    But why? Because I'm not afraid to try something different. Listen, I listen to music, check e-mail and prefer web browsers over apps. I care less for games.

    So, my thoughts:
    I want a good web browser. Z10 wins hands down. If you disagree, you need to start reading about it with an open mind.
    I want a good e-mail experience. Sorry, the blackberry hub wins.
    I need an MP3 player .... Android probably wins even though I have yet to find one I like.
    Pandora ... works on both Z10 and Android so non issue. Yes, it works on a Z10 via sideloading so don't say it doesn't.
    Phone ... either is good
    keyboard .... sorry Z10 wins. I know there are other keyboards for Android but none are better than the Z10s. And quite frankly, I don't want to customize my phone. I want something that works from the second I first turn it on.

    For my needs, the bandwidth that 4G LTE provides means that I no longer need apps. I can just use the browser. Everything I do can be done with a very few apps. Why don't people realize this?

    So, I get something that is actually more efficient for my needs.

    So ya, I'm leaving.

    Can't wait to see people whine about how I am wrong. If I am wrong, you are biased. Android has one advantage. ONE. It has games. I don't care about games.
    03-18-2013 10:43 PM
  3. 1812dave's Avatar
    Android also has Netflix. I suffered through a year with a BB and the lack of apps was irritating

    Sent from Note 2
    03-18-2013 10:57 PM
  4. HafeezAkmal's Avatar
    Great to hear that you're getting the z10 and liking it very much, it really is one great BB.

    but really, why are you comparing a 2011 android phone to a 2013-released BB? plus, if it's good for you, it is good. the z10 might not work for everyone - including me.
    03-19-2013 11:45 AM
  5. HafeezAkmal's Avatar
    I have a Motorola Droid 3.

    I am sick of rebooting it every day. I am sick of it thinking I am still in my car 2 hours after I leave it (still connected via "bluetooth"). Headphone jack broke after 6 months. And plenty of other things I don't like about the phone.

    Yes, it is a few versions old. And I am done. I will never get an Apple. And quite frankly, for what I do (e-mail, phone, web browsing, MP3s), I am getting a Z10. If the Z10 didn't get great reviews I'd get another Android.

    But why? Because I'm not afraid to try something different. Listen, I listen to music, check e-mail and prefer web browsers over apps. I care less for games.

    So, my thoughts:
    I want a good web browser. Z10 wins hands down. If you disagree, you need to start reading about it with an open mind.
    I want a good e-mail experience. Sorry, the blackberry hub wins.
    I need an MP3 player .... Android probably wins even though I have yet to find one I like.
    Pandora ... works on both Z10 and Android so non issue. Yes, it works on a Z10 via sideloading so don't say it doesn't.
    Phone ... either is good
    keyboard .... sorry Z10 wins. I know there are other keyboards for Android but none are better than the Z10s. And quite frankly, I don't want to customize my phone. I want something that works from the second I first turn it on.

    For my needs, the bandwidth that 4G LTE provides means that I no longer need apps. I can just use the browser. Everything I do can be done with a very few apps. Why don't people realize this?

    So, I get something that is actually more efficient for my needs.

    So ya, I'm leaving.

    Can't wait to see people whine about how I am wrong. If I am wrong, you are biased. Android has one advantage. ONE. It has games. I don't care about games.
    Great to hear that you're getting the z10 and liking it very much, it really is one great BB.

    but really, why are you comparing a 2011 android phone to a 2013-released BB? plus, if it's good for you, it is good. the z10 might not work for everyone - including me. and i'm sure not everyone buys an android for games.
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    03-19-2013 11:46 AM
  6. 1812dave's Avatar
    Great to hear that you're getting the z10 and liking it very much, it really is one great BB.

    but really, why are you comparing a 2011 android phone to a 2013-released BB? plus, if it's good for you, it is good. the z10 might not work for everyone - including me. and i'm sure not everyone buys an android for games.
    I sure don't use my phone for games unless one counts Wordfeud so I agree with you

    Sent from Note 2
    03-19-2013 01:38 PM
  7. oldmanjenkins's Avatar
    Keeping note 2, buying outright Z10. I like to root for the underdog-former-alpha-dog. I would like to see BB succeed. More competition drives innovation. This is my criticism of Apple, and shows their value dropping (anyone see how much the stock price has begun to fall). That can be the problem for those that make it to the "top", complacency.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Android Central Forums
    03-19-2013 07:59 PM
  8. 1812dave's Avatar
    Keeping note 2, buying outright Z10. I like to root for the underdog-former-alpha-dog. I would like to see BB succeed. More competition drives innovation. This is my criticism of Apple, and shows their value dropping (anyone see how much the stock price has begun to fall). That can be the problem for those that make it to the "top", complacency.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Android Central Forums
    In apples case it's a lack of Jobs

    Sent from my Nexus 7
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    03-19-2013 08:56 PM
  9. oldmanjenkins's Avatar
    But you can only count on one of person for so long for all innovation. He was a narcisistic and credulous person. Now you have a company who appears to be uncertain how to define itself. For a very long time his hubris of his own machinations stiffled others bringing anything of their own passion to the table. He was wholly focused on destroying Android and all it stood for. He became that which he pushed against, the "establishment." Competition drives innovation which pushes the techology farther. Think of the space race of the 60's/70's.

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    03-19-2013 09:22 PM
  10. 1812dave's Avatar
    BlackBerry 10 deemed not secure enough by U.K.

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-575...nough-by-u.k./
    Sent from Note 2
    03-20-2013 01:51 AM
  11. mmgquiet's Avatar
    BlackBerry 10 deemed not secure enough by U.K.

    BlackBerry 10 deemed not secure enough by U.K. | Mobile - CNET News
    Sent from Note 2
    Lmao, CESG has made an official statement that they have NOT even tested the new BB OS yet. Articles stating otherwise are false.
    BlackBerry 10 in Government

    Not to mention that it takes on average approx. 7 months from release date for a new OS to be approved by the CESG.
    Prince_Poppycock likes this.
    03-20-2013 11:55 AM
  12. 1812dave's Avatar
    Lmao, CESG has made an official statement that they have NOT even tested the new BB OS yet. Articles stating otherwise are false.
    BlackBerry 10 in Government

    Not to mention that it takes on average approx. 7 months from release date for a new OS to be approved by the CESG.
    Glad I could give you a good laugh

    The article and your own admission means a DELAY for bb adoption. ...

    Sent from Note 2
    03-20-2013 01:09 PM
  13. mmgquiet's Avatar
    Glad I could give you a good laugh

    The article and your own admission means a DELAY for bb adoption. ..
    I didn't know you would be so funny today.
    Apple had only become approved by CSEG approx. 5 months ago. iPhones now 'safe' for Restricted UK.gov info, but not Secret ? The Register
    As far as I can see, NO VERSION of Android is approved.
    So by YOUR own admission I guess this means a DELAY in Android adoption as well?
    Stop trying so hard.......
    03-20-2013 05:42 PM
  14. 1812dave's Avatar
    Android is not clamoring to be god's gift to the high security types that RIM (BB now) has been fond of servicing. So who CARES about Android approval? BB NEEDS the government sector and the paranoid sector to buy their products. Android is doing just FINE without catering to that audience. You have an emotional investment in BB, don't you? This thread STILL should be moved out of the Note 2 forum...
    03-20-2013 06:54 PM
  15. oldmanjenkins's Avatar
    I like them both but of course I don't work for the government.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Android Central Forums
    03-20-2013 07:00 PM
  16. 1812dave's Avatar
    BlackBerry Z10 U.S. preorders disappointing | BGR

    Jaime Delgado's comment says it best.
    03-21-2013 04:46 PM
  17. 1812dave's Avatar
    I COULD say "i told you so" (simply because I knew this would happen in the US), but I won't. I'll simply post the link to the report : BlackBerry shares dive on reports of muted U.S. debut for Z10
    03-22-2013 08:22 PM
  18. epicness4G's Avatar
    I went to a blackberry event here in Miami a couple days ago and all they talked about was the keyboard. If your device biggest selling point is a keyboard then idk what to tell you...

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
    03-22-2013 11:56 PM
  19. epicness4G's Avatar
    Android is not clamoring to be god's gift to the high security types that RIM (BB now) has been fond of servicing. So who CARES about Android approval? BB NEEDS the government sector and the paranoid sector to buy their products. Android is doing just FINE without catering to that audience. You have an emotional investment in BB, don't you? This thread STILL should be moved out of the Note 2 forum...
    The Pentagon just said that once their contract with blackberry expires in 2014 they'll be jumping ship to either android or ios

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
    03-22-2013 11:57 PM
  20. crackberrytraitor's Avatar
    BlackBerry 10 deemed not secure enough by U.K.

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-575...nough-by-u.k./
    Sent from Note 2
    Loll that article has since been updated with an apology saying they were wrong.

    Lol, fail.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Android Central Forums
    Prince_Poppycock likes this.
    03-23-2013 12:26 AM
  21. crackberrytraitor's Avatar
    Android is not clamoring to be god's gift to the high security types that RIM (BB now) has been fond of servicing. So who CARES about Android approval? BB NEEDS the government sector and the paranoid sector to buy their products. Android is doing just FINE without catering to that audience. You have an emotional investment in BB, don't you? This thread STILL should be moved out of the Note 2 forum...
    Look, the Mods have told you twice that it belongs here and isn't going anywhere. When are you going to get over it and stop whining?

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Android Central Forums
    03-23-2013 12:28 AM
  22. bclinger#IM's Avatar
    Actually, several agencies are moving to more than one platform.

    Sent from my Sprint Note 2 via Tapatalk.
    03-23-2013 03:21 AM
  23. Paul627g's Avatar
    Just to clear things up once again, this thread is fine right where it is. Sometimes we keep a thread like this out of what would be its native area because its has a certain purpose. In this case the newer BB's closest competition on Android when it was announced was the G Note 2 for the features both offered.

    So that's it in a nuts shell.. No need to worry about house cleaning and forum arranging, we'll take care of that if we feel its necessary
    Prince_Poppycock likes this.
    03-23-2013 11:46 AM
  24. epicness4G's Avatar
    Just to clear things up once again, this thread is fine right where it is. Sometimes we keep a thread like this out of what would be its native area because its has a certain purpose. In this case the newer BB's closest competition on Android when it was announced was the G Note 2 for the features both offered.

    So that's it in a nuts shell.. No need to worry about house cleaning and forum arranging, we'll take care of that if we feel its necessary
    Gross! The new BB closest competition would be the galaxy S fascinate. Every high end smartphone since has been better. Heck I would even take an OG HTC EVO 4G over it.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
    03-23-2013 12:59 PM
  25. Paul627g's Avatar
    Gross! The new BB closest competition would be the galaxy S fascinate. Every high end smartphone since has been better. Heck I would even take an OG HTC EVO 4G over it.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
    The members who founded this thread and others like it were those who associated the two devices, not me
    03-23-2013 01:12 PM
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