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  1. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Hi everyone,

    I just got an S4 a few days ago, and I really like the experience of my first Android. But I am very curious about the Note 2. The thought of having a really long lasting battery intrigues me, and so does having the larger screen. I thought the S4 was really large coming from iPhone, but now I think, hmm, how easy would reading be on the Note 2? Am mostly interested in email, texting and surfing. I am a web designer so
    The large screen for testing would be nice. I like the things the S4 does but I don't know if I need the advanced features.

    I am a bit worried about the size as I am a smaller female who would put an Otterbox case on the phone.

    Also, the phone needs to last me three years as I am on a contract with myS4 and within the 14 day return policy if I decide to take it back.

    All feedback appreciated :-)

    After skimming through some of the posts, the only two points I can think of are: The Note 2 is getting close to a year old roughly halfway through to the end of it's life, so development support for it will begin to fade. Second, I thought the S4 was compatible with the SPen, there just wasn't a slot for it?
    05-28-2013 01:30 AM
  2. _X_'s Avatar
    Second, I thought the S4 was compatible with the SPen, there just wasn't a slot for it?
    No that's incorrect. The note has a Wacom screen which the pen only works with.
    You can use a capacitive pen on almost all devices but they are not as accurate
    05-28-2013 08:11 AM
  3. joshwithachance's Avatar
    I hardly use my S-Pen and I still absolutely adore my Note 2. The added screen real estate and insane battery life make this device just outstanding. I started with the HTC One in my journey from iOS to Android, but quickly found myself wanting a larger display and a bit more battery, which the Note has.
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    05-28-2013 10:02 AM
  4. kraski's Avatar
    After skimming through some of the posts, the only two points I can think of are: The Note 2 is getting close to a year old roughly halfway through to the end of it's life, so development support for it will begin to fade. Second, I thought the S4 was compatible with the SPen, there just wasn't a slot for it?
    There is supposed to be a 4.2 update for the Note 2, along with some of the features of the S4. So, it's likely to be supported along side the S4. There are several very real questions, though.

    1) Is the difference in the cameras important?

    2) Is the S pen important? I know I can't write or draw as precisely with my finger or a capacitive stylus. And I use the pen.

    3) How often does the OP change phones? I'm no longer on contract, so I can upgrade as I see fit. But I haven't seen enough additional features in either the HTC One or the S4 to switch.

    As you probably discerned from those comments, I'm a happy Note 2 owner. I've now had it for 5 months and I'm still discovering things about it. I use the multi-window function to have a Bible and notepad to take sermon notes in church and at Bible studies. Depending on my schedule, that could be 6 hours a week. My grocery list is done on my phone. I sometimes listen to music on my phone. Being a blogger, social media is important. Blogging/writing is great, but useless if no one knows it's there. Those are just some of the things my Note 2 helps with. But the real question is whether it stands the test of time.

    I've had five previous smartphones, most of which have lost my interest in the first 3 months. I tend to move on to the next great thing, to gain usability. That's not happening with the Note 2. I'm still discovering all the ways it meets my needs.
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    05-28-2013 11:37 AM
  5. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    There is supposed to be a 4.2 update for the Note 2, along with some of the features of the S4. So, it's likely to be supported along side the S4. There are several very real questions, though.

    1) Is the difference in the cameras important?

    2) Is the S pen important? I know I can't write or draw as precisely with my finger or a capacitive stylus. And I use the pen.

    3) How often does the OP change phones? I'm no longer on contract, so I can upgrade as I see fit. But I haven't seen enough additional features in either the HTC One or the S4 to switch.

    As you probably discerned from those comments, I'm a happy Note 2 owner. I've now had it for 5 months and I'm still discovering things about it. I use the multi-window function to have a Bible and notepad to take sermon notes in church and at Bible studies. Depending on my schedule, that could be 6 hours a week. My grocery list is done on my phone. I sometimes listen to music on my phone. Being a blogger, social media is important. Blogging/writing is great, but useless if no one knows it's there. Those are just some of the things my Note 2 helps with. But the real question is whether it stands the test of time.

    I've had five previous smartphones, most of which have lost my interest in the first 3 months. I tend to move on to the next great thing, to gain usability. That's not happening with the Note 2. I'm still discovering all the ways it meets my needs.

    I was only pointing out that soon the development support for the Note 2 would begin to fade away. Something to keep in mind if one is upgrading/switching to that device. However, that only depends if that user cares about keeping up with Android.
    I have positive expectations for the Note 3.
    The only thing I wish Samsung would do is have a definite cutoff for screen size on smartphones versus 'phablets' like the Note 2. I personally don't think the Galaxy S line should get any bigger.
    05-28-2013 11:43 AM
  6. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    Advantages - Galaxy S4
    Faster processor
    Better screen
    Newer OS version
    Better camera
    Probably other things. Ask an S4 owner.
    Advantages - Galaxy Note 2
    Bigger screen
    S Pen
    Better battery life
    The Note 2 will get the newer OS version and probably some camera updates that would make the difference VERY minimal. The S4 will never get updated to the bigger screen, S pen, or battery life. So I think the pro's listed here heavily are in favor of the Note 2. Also, I don't think you can list "probably other things" as an advantage, cause the same could be said for any device. Speculation shouldn't really be an advantage because then it's just opinion.

    Myself, I will wait for the Note 3 but I would consider the Note 2 at that time if the differences aren't big enough to justify the cost. The Note 2 will be cheaper at that time.
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    05-28-2013 12:27 PM
  7. kraski's Avatar
    I was only pointing out that soon the development support for the Note 2 would begin to fade away. Something to keep in mind if one is upgrading/switching to that device. However, that only depends if that user cares about keeping up with Android.
    I have positive expectations for the Note 3.
    The only thing I wish Samsung would do is have a definite cutoff for screen size on smartphones versus 'phablets' like the Note 2. I personally don't think the Galaxy S line should get any bigger.
    I agree with what you're saying. But there are enough Note 2s out there that, with the OS update, apps are likely to support it for a long time. There might be no further OS tweaks from Sammy, but the number of Note 2 devices is likely to at least keep us getting security updates. So the question is whether a person buys a phone because it's the "latest and greatest" or because of what it does. If it's the former, then they'll buy whatever comes out next with great marketing. If it's the latter, then a phone that does everything they need is a keeper.

    As for size, you're right. Not everyone wants a phone the size of a Note 2 or larger. Samsung would lose a large chunk of market space if they ignored those who want a 4.x" screen.

    One side note for the OP. You're asking this in a forum for those who intentionally bought a Note 2. So the opinions you get are probably going to be prejudiced. <grin> I'd suggest posting the same question in the S4 forum. You're likely to get a similar imbalance in favor of the S4. But we've given you a slew of features and reasons to want a Note 2. They'll give you that same detail for the S4. Then you'll have the info you really need on both. In the end, it's the features that benefit you that are going to make the difference
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    05-28-2013 01:04 PM
  8. Valkaneer's Avatar
    The Note 2 will get the newer OS version and probably some camera updates that would make the difference VERY minimal. The S4 will never get updated to the bigger screen, S pen, or battery life. So I think the pro's listed here heavily are in favor of the Note 2. Also, I don't think you can list "probably other things" as an advantage, cause the same could be said for any device. Speculation shouldn't really be an advantage because then it's just opinion.

    Myself, I will wait for the Note 3 but I would consider the Note 2 at that time if the differences aren't big enough to justify the cost. The Note 2 will be cheaper at that time.
    Now come on, you know the Note 2 will never grow more pixels, It will always have extremely limited case selection, It will never get the new sensors, Inferred, thinner body, lighter, faster processor, the S4 will beat the Note 2 on any benchmark. It will never have a 9.7 or 13 mega pixel camera, brighter screen ect... We all know the test say the S4 battery is not much worse than the Note 2 since the S4 is more efficient. I like both a lot, both have there strong points, but lets be honest.
    05-28-2013 02:34 PM
  9. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    Now come on, you know the Note 2 will never grow more pixels, It will always have extremely limited case selection, It will never get the new sensors, Inferred, thinner body, lighter, faster processor, the S4 will beat the Note 2 on any benchmark. It will never have a 9.7 or 13 mega pixel camera, brighter screen ect... We all know the test say the S4 battery is not much worse than the Note 2 since the S4 is more efficient. I like both a lot, both have there strong points, but lets be honest.
    I guess I can agree with you that the S4 is newer. You've got me there. I wasn't giving a comprehensive breakdown list of the pro's and con's. Please re-read my post, and the post I quoted. I was responding to HIS list of pro's and con's and saying why I personally felt the Note 2 had the edge out of what he listed. If I was to give a complete breakdown (I wont, because no one here REALLY is going to care what my view is because I own neither device), I agree with you that the 13 MP camera will not magically insert itself into the Note 2.

    The only advantage he listed that I felt was a true advantage, was the screen on the S4. But I would argue that someone in the market for a Note 2, isn't going to be looking for the #1 tech on the market. Not that the Note 2 WASN'T arguably the best when it was released, i'm just saying a huge draw is the S Pen capabilities. For example: I bought the Note 10.1 even though the screen tech was about a year old when it was released. But I didn't care, because nothing else offered that level of S Pen integration.
    05-28-2013 04:00 PM
  10. jdub1981's Avatar
    I tried a gs4 the other day. It is SWEET! The battery in the note 2 is 3100mah and the gs4 is 2600mah. Not a huge difference overall. If you cant wait for a note 3 then id most likely go with a s4 and this is coming from a note 2 owner of 6 months.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
    05-28-2013 04:25 PM
  11. Valkaneer's Avatar
    I guess I can agree with you that the S4 is newer. You've got me there. I wasn't giving a comprehensive breakdown list of the pro's and con's. Please re-read my post, and the post I quoted. I was responding to HIS list of pro's and con's and saying why I personally felt the Note 2 had the edge out of what he listed. If I was to give a complete breakdown (I wont, because no one here REALLY is going to care what my view is because I own neither device), I agree with you that the 13 MP camera will not magically insert itself into the Note 2.

    The only advantage he listed that I felt was a true advantage, was the screen on the S4. But I would argue that someone in the market for a Note 2, isn't going to be looking for the #1 tech on the market. Not that the Note 2 WASN'T arguably the best when it was released, i'm just saying a huge draw is the S Pen capabilities. For example: I bought the Note 10.1 even though the screen tech was about a year old when it was released. But I didn't care, because nothing else offered that level of S Pen integration.
    Ah yes, I am sorry I did misread what you said. Got one word wrong, and that one word changed the whole sentence.
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    05-28-2013 04:54 PM
  12. john_v's Avatar
    Once you've had the phone the screen size feels normal and u make not be able to downsize to a smaller phone. Lol.
    Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
    Totally agree with this...anytime someone hands me their phone to do something for them, it feels tiny. My Note 2 just feels "right".
    05-28-2013 06:53 PM
  13. kraski's Avatar
    Now come on, you know the Note 2 will never grow more pixels, It will always have extremely limited case selection, It will never get the new sensors, Inferred, thinner body, lighter, faster processor, the S4 will beat the Note 2 on any benchmark. It will never have a 9.7 or 13 mega pixel camera, brighter screen ect... We all know the test say the S4 battery is not much worse than the Note 2 since the S4 is more efficient. I like both a lot, both have there strong points, but lets be honest.
    Thank you for making my point. You've basically said your reasoning for upgrading is because of specs and features, whether you need them or not. And that's fine, if that makes you happy. But I actually do work related things with my Note 2, don't take a lot of pictures, don't play games much. If my Note 2 does what I need it to, with a little wiggle room to do more, why do I need to change my phone?
    05-30-2013 10:24 AM
  14. JenTDOT's Avatar
    And my saga continues, lol. I have watched reviews, read forums, gone to stores and played with the phone, etc. I honestly LOVE my S4, it's amazing. However, that extra bit of real estate on the screen for me is really swaying me! I am in my thirties, and tho I don't have vision issues, I am on electronic devices all day. Computers, iPads, etc. and my eyes get tired. I have the print bumped up to large on the S4 so that is taking away some real estate from the S4 screen.
    I am worried most about a case for the phone adding bulk, but I need a good case to stop a crack. I don't make a lot of calls so I am not worried about holding the phone to my ear and it being awkward.
    I am a bit concerned I am "downgrading" a bit spec wise, but I don't give a hoot about fancy air gestures and the like. I am concerned about updates. I need this phone to last me a minimum of 2 years, and I have a three year contract. But I usually always upgrade before it is up.
    Will the note 2 run the latest jellybean eventually? Is it slower or laggier than the S4? Will it "feel" old in a year ? Security is a big deal to me. I don't want to get a phone that won't be supported.
    I love the idea of a longer lasting battery too...decisions, decisions. However, will the store let me go back to the S4 after another 14 days if I decide the note 2 is too much?
    I feel I am getting closer to a decision..
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    05-30-2013 07:47 PM
  15. Valkaneer's Avatar
    Thank you for making my point. You've basically said your reasoning for upgrading is because of specs and features, whether you need them or not. And that's fine, if that makes you happy. But I actually do work related things with my Note 2, don't take a lot of pictures, don't play games much. If my Note 2 does what I need it to, with a little wiggle room to do more, why do I need to change my phone?

    Sorry, but you assumed wrong. I was not listing reason "I" upgraded, I was listing things the note 2 can never do that the S4. A bit defensive? It has no bearing on what phone I use or why I upgraded. Point being I returned my S4 yesterday for the Note 2. Why? not because of the screen size, but because it does the things I like to do more. The gigantic size of the note 2 worried me but after rigorous research I was able to find products that curbed my worries and made them not so much an issue.

    What is strange Is, I never said you should change your phone or even responded to anything you said in that quote. I was responding to someone else.
    05-30-2013 08:51 PM
  16. Valkaneer's Avatar
    And my saga continues, lol. I have watched reviews, read forums, gone to stores and played with the phone, etc. I honestly LOVE my S4, it's amazing. However, that extra bit of real estate on the screen for me is really swaying me! I am in my thirties, and tho I don't have vision issues, I am on electronic devices all day. Computers, iPads, etc. and my eyes get tired. I have the print bumped up to large on the S4 so that is taking away some real estate from the S4 screen.
    I am worried most about a case for the phone adding bulk, but I need a good case to stop a crack. I don't make a lot of calls so I am not worried about holding the phone to my ear and it being awkward.
    I am a bit concerned I am "downgrading" a bit spec wise, but I don't give a hoot about fancy air gestures and the like. I am concerned about updates. I need this phone to last me a minimum of 2 years, and I have a three year contract. But I usually always upgrade before it is up.
    Will the note 2 run the latest jellybean eventually? Is it slower or laggier than the S4? Will it "feel" old in a year ? Security is a big deal to me. I don't want to get a phone that won't be supported.
    I love the idea of a longer lasting battery too...decisions, decisions. However, will the store let me go back to the S4 after another 14 days if I decide the note 2 is too much?
    I feel I am getting closer to a decision..
    Things I can do with my Note 2 that I could not with my S4-

    Text as fast as my wife. - I can write stuff out with the S Pen as fast as she can swipe text.
    Use the S Pen to capture anything on line and Text or Email it to a friend. Why spend 5 min trying to describe something your looking at when you can circle and text it in less than 15 sec?
    Read Flip board with ease of sitting back.
    Edit, crop, draw, make funny pics in seconds.
    multi task without constantly hitting the wrong button with my finger by using a much smaller S Pen.

    These are just a few things I found in one day, while the S4 is a fabulous phone I just found more things that the Note 2 does that is more in line with my personality.
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    05-30-2013 09:01 PM
  17. sux2bu's Avatar
    Advantages - Galaxy S4
    Faster processor
    Better screen
    Newer OS version
    Better camera
    Probably other things. Ask an S4 owner.

    Advantages - Galaxy Note 2
    Bigger screen
    S Pen
    Better battery life
    I have an S4 and switched to it for a whole week, now I'm back on my Note 2. The "S4 Lag", substantially less battery life and most importantly the much smaller screen was too much for me. It's a nace phone, but the Note 2 is the better phone for me. Also, the "better" camera is a moot point. It was VERY hard to tell a difference between pictures taken by the S4 and N2. The one difference I did see was that the N2 had a better viewing angle. I had to step back a few feet with the S4 just to get the same width of the N2. The better screen was also very hard to notice, unless you were looking at very small text on a web page.
    Now come on, you know the Note 2 will never grow more pixels, It will always have extremely limited case selection, It will never get the new sensors, Inferred, thinner body, lighter, faster processor, the S4 will beat the Note 2 on any benchmark. It will never have a 9.7 or 13 mega pixel camera, brighter screen ect... We all know the test say the S4 battery is not much worse than the Note 2 since the S4 is more efficient. I like both a lot, both have there strong points, but lets be honest.
    My own personal experience was that the battery was a lot better with the N2, the cameras were pretty even and the more pixels are only noticeable with small text. The S4 may beat the N2 on any benchmark, but the S4 was laggy and my N2 isn't.

    I REALLY wanted to like the S4 since I love having the latest and greatest mobile phones, but it just felt too much like a downgrade from my Note 2, so I went back and gave the S4 to the Mrs.
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    05-30-2013 10:33 PM
  18. JenTDOT's Avatar
    Went and switched out the S4 for the Note 2. Wow. Now to get a case...
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    05-31-2013 02:42 PM
  19. taniabonita52's Avatar
    Went and switched out the S4 for the Note 2. Wow. Now to get a case...
    I heard the Android Central store has nice, durable cases that don't add a lot of bulk to the phone. Might want to check that out. I think I mentioned it already, but I have an Otterbox Defender case on mine... Pricey, but well worth it. I dropped it a few times already and nothing happened. Good luck on your search!! :-) and have fun with the Note 2!! What color did you get it in? White or gray?

    Sent from my awesome Note 2!!!!!!! :-)
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    05-31-2013 02:48 PM
  20. LadiJae's Avatar
    Went and switched out the S4 for the Note 2. Wow. Now to get a case...
    So you did it huh!!!!! what you think so far? And are you able return it ?

    My hands are getting used to the phone size, they dont hurt today lol

    This is the STARTER case I have http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...cUvbUpU2827100

    ~Jae, tap'n on my Galaxy Note 2~owned since 5-30-13
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    05-31-2013 03:55 PM
  21. JenTDOT's Avatar
    Jae and Bonita-I am LOViN this phone! I got the white. I feel 100% confident I made the right decision. I am so shocked, because thesis faster than my S4! It has zero lag and is smooth as butter. The screen real estate is amazing. The phone just feels "right"....and with my S4 something just seemed off.I think the S4 is a great phone, but the Note 2 is very much my style. Thanks somuch to you all for helping me with the decision. Jae, lol, you sound like me , I am always on the hunt for the right case. I have 4 I need to sell on Craigslist. On the hunt for my first starter case. I might go with the Speck pink candy shell.But I need a good clear screen protector first....
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    06-01-2013 12:26 AM
  22. taniabonita52's Avatar
    Jae and Bonita-I am LOViN this phone! I got the white. I feel 100% confident I made the right decision. I am so shocked, because thesis faster than my S4! It has zero lag and is smooth as butter. The screen real estate is amazing. The phone just feels "right"....and with my S4 something just seemed off.I think the S4 is a great phone, but the Note 2 is very much my style. Thanks somuch to you all for helping me with the decision. Jae, lol, you sound like me , I am always on the hunt for the right case. I have 4 I need to sell on Craigslist. On the hunt for my first starter case. I might go with the Speck pink candy shell.But I need a good clear screen protector first....
    Awesome!!! I'm glad everything is going smooth for ya :-) It's just keeps getting better and better with the Note 2. The possibilities are endless with this device. And you're absolutely right... The big big screen is omg amazing.

    I also have the white one :-) I haven't charged this thing since yesterday morning around 7am... And it's 3am now and I still have 28% battery left. I've done a lot of messaging, Web surfing, photography, drawing, photo editing, etc.

    Oh, and about the screen protectors... I really like Zagg brand screen protectors... But they are pricey... So you might want to see if there is something out there that's cheaper and still works great. Sometimes you can get great deals on stuff like that.

    Have you used the s-pen for anything yet? I love that thing :-)

    Sent from my awesome Note 2!!!!!!! :-)
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    06-01-2013 02:05 AM
  23. JenTDOT's Avatar
    No s pen use yet. Waiting to get a screen protector and case first. I feel vulnerable that my phone is naked lol

    - - - Updated - - -

    No s pen use yet. Waiting to get a screen protector and case first. I feel vulnerable that my phone is naked lol
    06-01-2013 02:12 AM
  24. taniabonita52's Avatar
    No s pen use yet. Waiting to get a screen protector and case first. I feel vulnerable that my phone is naked lol

    - - - Updated - - -

    No s pen use yet. Waiting to get a screen protector and case first. I feel vulnerable that my phone is naked lol
    I understand how you feel lol. When I had the Evo 4G, my case for it broke... And I was also broke lol... So until I managed to get money for a new one, I was using a crocheted phone "sock" that my mom made. Every time I went to use the phone I was so nervous lol. I'm so clumsy, and I was afraid I'd drop it.

    Sent from my awesome Note 2!!!!!!! :-)
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    06-01-2013 02:24 AM
  25. LadiJae's Avatar
    Jae and Bonita-I am LOViN this phone! I got the white. I feel 100% confident I made the right decision. I am so shocked, because thesis faster than my S4! It has zero lag and is smooth as butter. The screen real estate is amazing. The phone just feels "right"....and with my S4 something just seemed off.I think the S4 is a great phone, but the Note 2 is very much my style. Thanks somuch to you all for helping me with the decision. Jae, lol, you sound like me , I am always on the hunt for the right case. I have 4 I need to sell on Craigslist. On the hunt for my first starter case. I might go with the Speck pink candy shell.But I need a good clear screen protector first....
    Good for you, use the spen. I love it. I also have the white one. My husband has had is for a few months now and he rooted it last night. I'm so tempted. It's amazing lol.... Never had a rooted phone. I think I'll wait til we the update though and see how that goes. Glad you're loving it so far. My hands don't hurt now... So it took about a day and half to get used to the size.

    ~Jae, tap'n on my Galaxy Note 2~owned since 5-30-13
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    06-01-2013 07:12 AM
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