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  1. mjs2011's Avatar
    Hi all. I want to switch to the Note 20 Ultra, but one thing I really want is the ability to take photos like this (see the pic). On my iPhone I was able to take a picture and then edit it after. Is this possible on the Note? I remember the last time I had a Sammy phone, I tried to do this on Pro mode but it just turned the screen all white when I slowed the Shutter speed down to 5 seconds.

    If the Samsung camera can’t do this, are there any apps in the Play Store that can do this?

    Thanks in advance!
    10-26-2020 04:06 AM
  2. Hermes Hidayat's Avatar
    ah,long exposure shots.

    i just checked Pro mode on my N20U.im pretty sure you can do it with 50 ISO and 1/10 or 1 second.
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    10-26-2020 04:23 AM
  3. mjs2011's Avatar
    ah,long exposure shots.

    i just checked Pro mode on my N20U.im pretty sure you can do it with 50 ISO and 1/10 or 1 second.
    Do you think 1 second is long enough for that result?
    10-26-2020 05:12 AM
  4. Hermes Hidayat's Avatar
    Do you think 1 second is long enough for that result?
    No. I usually use 15 seconds on my 1DX Mk2. And an ND filter. But depends on the lighting.
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    10-26-2020 06:20 AM
  5. mjs2011's Avatar
    No. I usually use 15 seconds on my 1DX Mk2. And an ND filter. But depends on the lighting.
    Bummer. Might seem petty but it’s so easy to do this on an iPhone and I go hiking a lot around water falls so it’s kind of a deal breaker.
    10-26-2020 08:43 AM
  6. Hermes Hidayat's Avatar
    Bummer. Might seem petty but it’s so easy to do this on an iPhone and I go hiking a lot around water falls so it’s kind of a deal breaker.
    But because you even posted now im curious too. Doing it to tap water doesnt really show any positive results...
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    10-26-2020 09:42 AM
  7. jimd1050's Avatar
    Looks to me more like the iPhone camera is "averaging" several frames rather than actually "changing" shutter speed after the fact!!! Either way, you're correct - we don't have it on the Samsung cameras!!! Nice feature...
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    10-26-2020 09:44 AM
  8. mjs2011's Avatar
    Looks to me more like the iPhone camera is "averaging" several frames rather than actually "changing" shutter speed after the fact!!! Either way, you're correct - we don't have it on the Samsung cameras!!! Nice feature...
    Yeah there’s actually an app called Spectre that does it but it’s even built into the iOS photos app. Hopefully Samsung can adopt this somehow because that picture I got was brilliant!
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    10-26-2020 10:38 AM
  9. Mooncatt's Avatar
    If you want to do this in a single shot, you'll need to do so early in the morning or late in the evening so you can do a long exposure without blowing out the image. How long the exposure needs to be depends on ambient light, ISO setting, how fast the water is flowing, and your own personal preference on how silky you want it. Taking such photos during the day is harder.

    One option would be to get a neutral density filter to dim the light hitting the sensor so you can do a long exposure in broad daylight. The downside to this is phone lens adaptors are often cheap and ruin image quality, and the good ones are almost prohibitively expensive.

    The other option is photo stacking as you've seen, which can be done manually. I used this app to create the following image.

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...d.photo.editor

    Long Exposure -Water-Is this result possible on this phone?-img_20201026_104908.jpeg

    That was a combination of the following two separate images.

    Long Exposure -Water-Is this result possible on this phone?-imgp6737-denoiseai-denoise.jpeg
    Long Exposure -Water-Is this result possible on this phone?-imgp6727-denoiseai-denoise.jpeg

    To create it, I used the text/image insert function and set the options to the following.

    Long Exposure -Water-Is this result possible on this phone?-screenshots_2020-10-26-11-04-48.jpeg

    For something like flowing water, this may take some experimenting with the blend modes, and would need to be repeated many times with a lot of exposures.

    Whatever method you use, you will need something to prop up the phone. That could be anything from a tripod to simply leaning your phone against something solid. You need the phone to remain still during a long exposure to prevent blur from camera shake. If you do image stacking, this keeps everything lined up (ignore my watermark misalignment, as I placed those manually in their respective photos).

    If you want to try and automate the photo stacking option, I have seen some light painting apps that appear to work like that. I haven't personally tried them because I don't need them (they are more for phones unable to do manual long exposures), so I can't vouch for their effectiveness or make any specific recommendation.
    10-26-2020 12:27 PM
  10. J Dubbs's Avatar
    Yeah there’s actually an app called Spectre that does it but it’s even built into the iOS photos app. Hopefully Samsung can adopt this somehow because that picture I got was brilliant!
    I agree, that's a stunning shot
    10-27-2020 03:36 AM
  11. J Dubbs's Avatar
    If you want to do this in a single shot, you'll need to do so early in the morning or late in the evening so you can do a long exposure without blowing out the image. How long the exposure needs to be depends on ambient light, ISO setting, how fast the water is flowing, and your own personal preference on how silky you want it. Taking such photos during the day is harder.

    One option would be to get a neutral density filter to dim the light hitting the sensor so you can do a long exposure in broad daylight. The downside to this is phone lens adaptors are often cheap and ruin image quality, and the good ones are almost prohibitively expensive.

    The other option is photo stacking as you've seen, which can be done manually. I used this app to create the following image.

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...d.photo.editor

    Click image for larger version. 

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    That was a combination of the following two separate images.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	IMGP6737-DeNoiseAI-denoise.jpeg 
Views:	22 
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ID:	328245
    Click image for larger version. 

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Views:	21 
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ID:	328246

    To create it, I used the text/image insert function and set the options to the following.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Screenshots_2020-10-26-11-04-48.jpeg 
Views:	20 
Size:	44.7 KB 
ID:	328248

    For something like flowing water, this may take some experimenting with the blend modes, and would need to be repeated many times with a lot of exposures.

    Whatever method you use, you will need something to prop up the phone. That could be anything from a tripod to simply leaning your phone against something solid. You need the phone to remain still during a long exposure to prevent blur from camera shake. If you do image stacking, this keeps everything lined up (ignore my watermark misalignment, as I placed those manually in their respective photos).

    If you want to try and automate the photo stacking option, I have seen some light painting apps that appear to work like that. I haven't personally tried them because I don't need them (they are more for phones unable to do manual long exposures), so I can't vouch for their effectiveness or make any specific recommendation.
    Dayum Moon nice work!!! I now know who one of the forum photo specialists are
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    10-27-2020 03:41 AM
  12. msm0511's Avatar
    I don't really have anything useful to add. I just wanted to applaud both @Mooncatt and @mjs2011 on their respective photos. Both are really nice.
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    10-27-2020 10:16 AM
  13. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    Note 8 near sun down.
    ISO 50
    1/2 S
    Attached Thumbnails Long Exposure -Water-Is this result possible on this phone?-8016.jpg  
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    10-27-2020 01:41 PM
  14. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    Note 8 afternoon. I think I used an ND filter for this.

    ISO 50
    1/6 S
    Attached Thumbnails Long Exposure -Water-Is this result possible on this phone?-4167.jpg  
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    10-27-2020 01:43 PM
  15. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    Note 8 after dark

    ISO 100
    10 S
    Attached Thumbnails Long Exposure -Water-Is this result possible on this phone?-4196.jpg  
    10-27-2020 01:43 PM
  16. mjs2011's Avatar
    Note 8 afternoon. I think I used an ND filter for this.

    ISO 50
    1/6 S
    Do you just stick the filter right over the camera when you take the picture? Looks like Amazon sells them for about $25. Not the worst compromise.
    10-27-2020 01:46 PM
  17. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    Note 8, sun setting behind me.

    ISO 50
    1 S
    10-27-2020 01:50 PM
  18. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    Photo failed to attach on previous post.
    10-27-2020 01:51 PM
  19. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    Do you just stick the filter right over the camera when you take the picture? Looks like Amazon sells them for about $25. Not the worst compromise.
    Yeah, the one I've got is just a clip on, goes right over the camera. It's came as a standard 37mm filter with a clip that has a standard filter thread on it so I'm able to use it on one of my cameras as well. Think I paid $20 for it off Amazon. It's variable as well so twisting the filter adjusts how much light is let through, brand is Neewer.

    The last time I used an iPhone camera was probably around 2015 so I couldn't say how doing it this way compares to the feature your talking about from Apple. As a photographer that enjoys hiking I find this is a viable alternative for me to carrying my camera with every time I go out.
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    10-27-2020 02:02 PM
  20. mjs2011's Avatar
    Yeah, the one I've got is just a clip on, goes right over the camera. It's came as a standard 37mm filter with a clip that has a standard filter thread on it so I'm able to use it on one of my cameras as well. Think I paid $20 for it off Amazon. It's variable as well so twisting the filter adjusts how much light is let through, brand is Neewer.

    The last time I used an iPhone camera was probably around 2015 so I couldn't say how doing it this way compares to the feature your talking about from Apple. As a photographer that enjoys hiking I find this is a viable alternative for me to carrying my camera with every time I go out.
    That’s awesome and exactly what I’d use it for. Although I prefer the Apple way, this seems like a great alternative solution if I decide to make the switch.
    10-27-2020 02:04 PM
  21. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    That’s awesome and exactly what I’d use it for. Although I prefer the Apple way, this seems like a great alternative solution if I decide to make the switch.
    So does the Apple way allow you to take a normal photo and edit in the motion blur from the long exposure after the fact? If that's the case I'd assume it's taking multiple photos and blending them together taking advantage of their AI.
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    10-27-2020 11:53 PM
  22. mjs2011's Avatar
    So does the Apple way allow you to take a normal photo and edit in the motion blur from the long exposure after the fact? If that's the case I'd assume it's taking multiple photos and blending them together taking advantage of their AI.
    That’s correct. So you can literally click on a photo, swipe up, and click long exposure. There’s also an app called Spectre that does it all for you before taking the photo too. You can choose between 3, 5, and 10 seconds for shutter.
    10-28-2020 09:12 AM
  23. msm0511's Avatar
    That’s correct. So you can literally click on a photo, swipe up, and click long exposure. There’s also an app called Spectre that does it all for you before taking the photo too. You can choose between 3, 5, and 10 seconds for shutter.
    You have to be using Live Photos for that to work. Correct?
    10-29-2020 05:46 PM
  24. mjs2011's Avatar
    You have to be using Live Photos for that to work. Correct?
    Yes that’s correct.
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    10-29-2020 05:51 PM
  25. msm0511's Avatar
    Yes that’s correct.
    Thanks. I knew you could do it with a swipe up, but haven't carried an iPhone daily in a while so I forgot. Been carrying my 12 Pro along with my Note 20 Ultra though since I got it b/c it's so small.
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    10-29-2020 05:54 PM
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