10-31-2013 06:05 AM
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  1. Blackintuit's Avatar
    Well, that's a mark against. Travel between Europe, North America, and Asia? You're prevented from buying a local SIM card and using a local provider.

    This obviously is done at the software level and it's only a matter of hours before someone figures out how to break this. But for business people and travelers trying to use waze, google maps, or other GPS routing software when travelling around foreign countries, this is definitely a disappointment.

    Seriously, Samsung? Sorry, roamers, but the new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked — Tech News and Analysis

    Note 3 is region locked-samsung-sim-lock.jpg
    midnite_blue likes this.
    09-26-2013 08:13 AM
  2. Zergslayer69's Avatar
    Wow really? Good thing I didn't order an international note 3 then (in the US). Is this confirmed or are you speaking from personal experience?
    09-26-2013 08:22 AM
  3. Blackintuit's Avatar
    I'm only able to relay what others are reporting. Not even sure if this is for all versions, or only carrier specific.

    http://www.androidauthority.com/gala...n-lock-277262/

    Note 3 is region locked-note-3-americas-region-lock-645x363.jpg
    09-26-2013 08:26 AM
  4. snc0921's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure this will sort itself out (meaning someone will find a by pass to unlock it). For me, when I go overseas I have an unlocked phone for making calls with a local SIM. I generally don't utilize the horrible data speeds in China so I'd still be able to use my GN3 as my pocket computer and my unlocked phone to call around.

    That said, many folks have more immediate needs and I'm watching for this to get addressed.
    09-26-2013 08:27 AM
  5. Simon_y7's Avatar
    If this turns out to be true, it's terrible news. Is this the embedded SIM issue that was mentioned earlier? Damn, suddenly I lost all interest in looking at these gorgeous reviews.
    09-26-2013 08:56 AM
  6. 21stNow's Avatar
    I wonder if this is more related to LTE-compatibility, rather than total service compatibility. One of the updates to the articles posted in the OP indicates that the phone will work with outside SIM cards.
    09-26-2013 10:22 AM
  7. thegame161's Avatar
    good job i never go anywhere ha
    09-26-2013 10:52 AM
  8. ki11ak3nn's Avatar
    I only go to Canada from time to time. So I'm good. Last time I brought my GNex to Canada it was just a brick. No data or voice. It sucked.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 4
    09-26-2013 11:25 AM
  9. Simon_y7's Avatar
    I was hoping to finally have a single phone to travel with, instead of always packing two phones, two extra batteries, two chargers, etc.
    09-26-2013 11:50 AM
  10. Raptor007's Avatar
    You just need to activate it on the local carrier in the EU, then you can put any SIM into it. They are simply blocking the grey market which as a mfg they have a right to do. We don't like it,but they can do it and lose out on the sales altogether. If they simply offered a international version they wouldn't have to mfg so many different models.
    09-26-2013 12:25 PM
  11. Blackintuit's Avatar
    There's some weird stuff in customer.xml that people have been noticing.

    Samsung is now stating only after you activate the phone with a carrier in its designated region (hence the customer.xml weirdness), will you then be able to use other carrier sims from other regions outside the designated region.

    Which of course is not properly conveyed at all by the warning stickers on the outside. And needs independent verification before it's believable.
    09-26-2013 08:09 PM
  12. Simon_y7's Avatar
    In the early threads, when people were ordering their Notes 3 in the US, it was mentioned that they had an option of ordering or not an "international" version. What could it possibly have meant in the light of this very unwelcome news? Also, at least on some receipts an "embedded SIM" was listed.

    The irony is that my initial awareness of Note 3 was due to a happy owner of Note 2 starting a thread titled "Finally, a truly global phone."
    09-26-2013 10:20 PM
  13. dpham00's Avatar
    The Verizon variant would most likely be factory sim unlocked as with most of their other current 4GLTE smartphones.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II via Tapatalk 4
    09-27-2013 07:51 AM
  14. mavrrick's Avatar
    In the early threads, when people were ordering their Notes 3 in the US, it was mentioned that they had an option of ordering or not an "international" version. What could it possibly have meant in the light of this very unwelcome news? Also, at least on some receipts an "embedded SIM" was listed.

    The irony is that my initial awareness of Note 3 was due to a happy owner of Note 2 starting a thread titled "Finally, a truly global phone."
    This was more about ATT wanting to get you on a international plan as part of the upgrade instead of letting you do it after. I don't think it was actually a international version of the phone.
    09-27-2013 07:53 AM
  15. Simon_y7's Avatar
    The Verizon variant would most likely be factory sim unlocked as with most of their other current 4GLTE smartphones.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II via Tapatalk 4
    From your mouth and into God's ear.
    09-27-2013 09:01 AM
  16. JasW's Avatar
    You just need to activate it on the local carrier in the EU, then you can put any SIM into it. They are simply blocking the grey market which as a mfg they have a right to do. We don't like it,but they can do it and lose out on the sales altogether. If they simply offered a international version they wouldn't have to mfg so many different models.
    Yup, but of course the workaround has quickly been found, so if by chance you are someone who purchases phones from the EU but activates them elsewhere, an unlock code and a hard reset is apparently the ticket to unfettered SIM swapping when traveling: Galaxy Note 3 SIM Restrictions - the full story & how to unlock
    09-27-2013 12:21 PM
  17. Simon_y7's Avatar
    The Verizon variant would most likely be factory sim unlocked as with most of their other current 4GLTE smartphones.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II via Tapatalk 4
    SIM restrictions on unlocked European Note3 - Page 30 - xda-developers

    Reading the above XDA devs' thread, one learns of many details, complexities, and uncertainties in this issue. In particular, to address your post, it appears that Samsung had locked all their recent smartphones manufactured after this July. And this w/o giving people any prior-to-sale warning. In fact, some owners were very surprised to find that their devices happened to be locked.
    09-27-2013 12:59 PM
  18. Raptor007's Avatar
    So really this was just a bunch of FUD and much ado about nothing.
    09-27-2013 05:49 PM
  19. dpham00's Avatar
    SIM restrictions on unlocked European Note3 - Page 30 - xda-developers

    Reading the above XDA devs' thread, one learns of many details, complexities, and uncertainties in this issue. In particular, to address your post, it appears that Samsung had locked all their recent smartphones manufactured after this July. And this w/o giving people any prior-to-sale warning. In fact, some owners were very surprised to find that their devices happened to be locked.
    I didn't glance through the entire thread. But I highly doubt that the Verizon version would come sim locked due to FCC requirements. I don't think that Verizon is voluntarily offering phones factory sim unlocked, rather they don't want to get fined again for violating fcc requirements. They were already fined once

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II via Tapatalk 4
    09-27-2013 11:36 PM
  20. andymacnexus's Avatar
    Its only locked if you first use a non region sim. So if you import to US from Europe and use a US sim it will then be locked to US , but there is a way to get round this apparently.

    Sent from my GT-I9505G using AC Forums mobile app
    09-28-2013 01:07 AM
  21. Aquila's Avatar
    What's the benefit to Samsung from region locking devices? A morbid hope that you'll by a 2nd device if you need to travel?
    Johnly and midnite_blue like this.
    09-28-2013 01:14 AM
  22. Botti's Avatar
    What's the benefit to Samsung from region locking devices? A morbid hope that you'll by a 2nd device if you need to travel?
    Perhaps read the older posts first and reply after that? You'll might be surprised of how many answers there are already.

    Posted via Note3
    09-28-2013 04:47 AM
  23. Aquila's Avatar
    Perhaps read the older posts first and reply after that? You'll might be surprised of how many answers there are already.

    Posted via Note3

    I did read the thread, here is the only statement speaking to motive:

    They are simply blocking the grey market which as a mfg they have a right to do. We don't like it,but they can do it and lose out on the sales altogether. If they simply offered a international version they wouldn't have to mfg so many different models.
    I seriously doubt Samsung issued a statement regarding the gray market, meaning it's conjecture. It might be likely, but it's not the only opinion that may be out there.
    midnite_blue likes this.
    09-28-2013 06:13 AM
  24. Simon_y7's Avatar
    I didn't glance through the entire thread. But I highly doubt that the Verizon version would come sim locked due to FCC requirements. I don't think that Verizon is voluntarily offering phones factory sim unlocked, rather they don't want to get fined again for violating fcc requirements. They were already fined once

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II via Tapatalk 4
    Well, both you and I are use Verizon, so, if you're right, we have nothing to worry about. However, if Verizon was fined, don't you think all other US carriers are painfully aware of that? Then, why there a sticker for the "American model?"
    09-28-2013 09:55 AM
  25. 21stNow's Avatar
    Well, both you and I are use Verizon, so, if you're right, we have nothing to worry about. However, if Verizon was fined, don't you think all other US carriers are painfully aware of that? Then, why there a sticker for the "American model?"
    The other US carriers don't have to comply with the same FCC guideline that VZW does. It is related to some spectrum that VZW acquired.
    09-28-2013 11:13 AM
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