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  1. Crxssroad's Avatar
    I was referring to the seller. He said that some claim to not know they were selling a counterfeit.
    If the seller took the time to write "clone" in the listing, they have to be fully aware that it is a fake
    Oh, haha. My bad. I was referring to people who list fakes as originals. Which is what happened to me. If the seller is listing it as a clone then yes, it's being sold as a clone and if the seller does not accept returns(which many do not) you're stuck with the t hing.

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    01-20-2014 06:47 AM
  2. dpham00's Avatar
    You can't not know if your listing says "Clone" lol
    Obviously the point I was making its of they try to pass off a clone as a genuine note 3. I think the seller knows and just apologises to those who find out and refund.

    If they are truly regretful they would pull the listing, and contact all previous buyers and provide a full refund.



    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 via Tapatalk Pro
    01-20-2014 08:16 AM
  3. UJ95x's Avatar
    Obviously the point I was making its of they try to pass off a clone as a genuine note 3. I think the seller knows and just apologises to those who find out and refund.

    If they are truly regretful they would pull the listing, and contact all previous buyers and provide a full refund.



    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 via Tapatalk Pro
    Yeah. I bought a fake Spigen Slim Armor once, asked for a full refund and he apologized many times after I threatened with a bad review lol
    He kept the listing there -_-

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    01-20-2014 12:03 PM
  4. dpham00's Avatar
    Yeah. I bought a fake Spigen Slim Armor once, asked for a full refund and he apologized many times after I threatened with a bad review lol
    He kept the listing there -_-

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    I avoid buying from ebay these days, unless buying from the manufacturer or a major store like adorama, buy.com, etc. Way too many fakes out there especially on stuff easy to fake like cases, headphones, etc.

    With that said I bought my spigen slim armor authentic from Spigen through Amazon which developed a crack. They sent a replacement which had a crack in the same spot before I even removed it from the shipping bag.

    I don't know how much fakes are going for, but I bought my spigen slim armor for $6.50 on sale.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 via Tapatalk Pro
    01-20-2014 03:12 PM
  5. UJ95x's Avatar
    I avoid buying from ebay these days, unless buying from the manufacturer or a major store like adorama, buy.com, etc. Way too many fakes out there especially on stuff easy to fake like cases, headphones, etc.

    With that said I bought my spigen slim armor authentic from Spigen through Amazon which developed a crack. They sent a replacement which had a crack in the same spot before I even removed it from the shipping bag.

    I don't know how much fakes are going for, but I bought my spigen slim armor for $6.50 on sale.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 via Tapatalk Pro
    Bought mine for $4.50
    Got a refund, bought a real one from my school's tech shop for $20.
    As far as eBay, I buy from anyone with good feedback, usually over 98% and have buyer protection. Up until recently, I hadn't bought anything over $150

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    01-20-2014 03:30 PM
  6. swisstrader's Avatar
    Wait, wait, wait!! Am I correct when I read the ad and it specifically says "CLONE" aka fake??

    In that case, no real need to do all the research to show the difference between real and fake. Unless I'm not reading this correctly, the seller says "fake" right up front, so I'm not sure I get what all the fuss is about.
    01-20-2014 05:21 PM
  7. UJ95x's Avatar
    Wait, wait, wait!! Am I correct when I read the ad and it specifically says "CLONE" aka fake??

    In that case, no real need to do all the research to show the difference between real and fake. Unless I'm not reading this correctly, the seller says "fake" right up front, so I'm not sure I get what all the fuss is about.
    This is in case it doesn't say that. Not everybody who sells fakes comes forward and admits, some of them sell the "real" Note 3 and hope you fall for it

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    01-20-2014 05:28 PM
  8. dpham00's Avatar
    Bought mine for $4.50
    Got a refund, bought a real one from my school's tech shop for $20.
    As far as eBay, I buy from anyone with good feedback, usually over 98% and have buyer protection. Up until recently, I hadn't bought anything over $150

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    98+ isn't a guarantee either. Yes, it is protected, but I don't want to have to investigate every item I buy to determine whether or not it is a fake. Some of these sellers sell high quality fakes, hard to distinguish from the real thing unless you look for it or have the genuine item in hand. And when a buyer discovers that it is a fake, they apologize in a seemingly sincere manner and refund letting the buyer keep the item usually so the chance of negative feedback is low.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 via Tapatalk Pro
    01-20-2014 05:34 PM
  9. dpham00's Avatar
    If the seller indicates that it is a clone then the seller is in the clear. The issue really is when it is a clone yet passed off as a genuine product

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    01-20-2014 05:36 PM
  10. UJ95x's Avatar
    98+ isn't a guarantee either. Yes, it is protected, but I don't want to have to investigate every item I buy to determine whether or not it is a fake. Some of these sellers sell high quality fakes, hard to distinguish from the real thing unless you look for it or have the genuine item in hand. And when a buyer discovers that it is a fake, they apologize in a seemingly sincere manner and refund letting the buyer keep the item usually so the chance of negative feedback is low.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 via Tapatalk Pro
    Oh I know it's not a guarantee, but I rarely buy stuff that people would even both counterfeiting. I have only bought a handful of things on eBay ($150 headphones, $1,200 laptop, and a few accessories for my phone. Plus a couple of t-shirts)
    The headphones were from an electronics store with 99% feedback and over 10K points. Laptop was from official Acer store and I know the t-shirts weren't counterfeit because they weren't a specific brand or official item to begin with

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    01-20-2014 05:50 PM
  11. Crxssroad's Avatar
    Wait, wait, wait!! Am I correct when I read the ad and it specifically says "CLONE" aka fake??

    In that case, no real need to do all the research to show the difference between real and fake. Unless I'm not reading this correctly, the seller says "fake" right up front, so I'm not sure I get what all the fuss is about.
    There are several different ways to sell a fake. One of them is to sell it as a fake, which is what the first listing is an example of. There are other ways which vary with the intentions and knowledge of the seller.
    01-20-2014 06:15 PM
  12. thegame161's Avatar
    Amazing write up
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    01-24-2014 11:25 AM
  13. anon8488674's Avatar
    Another dead give away, at least on the clones from HDC, is there is no
    IR blaster so no tv remote control.

    Via my Galaxy Note 3
    02-06-2014 08:56 AM
  14. stiffcookie's Avatar
    2) "Smart Care" stickers. As far as I'm aware, none of the original boxes are supposed to have this sticker. The knockoff I have has it, as well as knockoffs I've come across in my research. If someone has an original Note 3 that came in a box with one of these stickers, you may correct me. I'm not 100% sure on this bit.

    Here's how to spot a fake Note 3! (For those looking at online marketplaces or unofficial retailers)-z5t4u0m.png
    Hi guys.

    I have a genuine European version of the Galaxy Note 3 (SM-N900) that was packaged with the Smart Care sticker. In the EU there is a law that all consumer goods are covered by a 2 year minimum warranty. That'd make sense why we get the "Smart Care 24 month warranty". I'm guessing the knockoffs more accurately imitate this version.

    Information on EU Warranty



    Also a link here from a blogger that was supplied a Note 3 directly from Samsung:

    Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - Fashion Notebook

    Hope that clears up any confusion.


    EDIT: Just found What is Smart Care? - Looks like the "genuine" phones with this sticker originated in Africa!

    EDIT2: A link to an article regarding Samsung "Smart Care" in Africa Here!
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    03-04-2014 05:08 PM
  15. Eclipse2K's Avatar
    Hi guys.

    I have a genuine European version of the Galaxy Note 3 (SM-N900) that was packaged with the Smart Care sticker. In the EU there is a law that all consumer goods are covered by a 2 year minimum warranty. That'd make sense why we get the "Smart Care 24 month warranty". I'm guessing the knockoffs more accurately imitate this version.

    Information on EU Warranty


    Also a link here from a blogger that was supplied a Note 3 directly from Samsung:

    Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - Fashion Notebook

    Hope that clears up any confusion.


    EDIT: Just found This - Maybe the "genuine" phones with this sticker originated in Africa somehow?
    Thank you for the update.

    Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (Verizon)
    03-04-2014 08:10 PM
  16. Ivan_034's Avatar
    Another big difference that you notice before buying a phone the thickness of the battery ...
    Here's how to spot a fake Note 3! (For those looking at online marketplaces or unofficial retailers)-sam_0982.jpg
    Here's how to spot a fake Note 3! (For those looking at online marketplaces or unofficial retailers)-sam_0983.jpg
    Here's how to spot a fake Note 3! (For those looking at online marketplaces or unofficial retailers)-sam_0986.jpg
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    03-07-2014 01:17 PM
  17. dpham00's Avatar
    Looks like the fake is substantially smaller

    dpham00, Android Central Moderator
    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3 via Tapatalk Pro
    03-09-2014 12:30 PM
  18. june_shmily's Avatar
    May i know y my fon always hot on the screen even im not use it
    03-12-2014 01:07 PM
  19. bgbagz's Avatar
    Outstanding... Thanks! some dude almost got me... He had that sticker on the box.... Which made me suspicious...

    Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk
    03-17-2014 05:09 PM
  20. bitrate's Avatar
    Does anyone still have one of these fakes on hand? Just out of curiosity, what happens when you try to verify the esn/imei? I nearly purchased a Note 3 from a regional classified ad. When I requested the esn/imei number, they at first said they 'didn't know what it was or where to find it'. When I told them where to find it, they responded back with a number, which while it did technically clear, showed up as some random junk prepaid-like dumbphone. So I was just curious if indeed this guy had a stolen/blacklisted Note 3 and was trying to pass it off with another number from a junk phone he had lying around; or if he actually had one of these fakes and didn't know it, whose esn/imei number had been cloned from a valid phone....
    04-09-2014 08:58 AM
  21. Eclipse2K's Avatar
    Does anyone still have one of these fakes on hand? Just out of curiosity, what happens when you try to verify the esn/imei? I nearly purchased a Note 3 from a regional classified ad. When I requested the esn/imei number, they at first said they 'didn't know what it was or where to find it'. When I told them where to find it, they responded back with a number, which while it did technically clear, showed up as some random junk prepaid-like dumbphone. So I was just curious if indeed this guy had a stolen/blacklisted Note 3 and was trying to pass it off with another number from a junk phone he had lying around; or if he actually had one of these fakes and didn't know it, whose esn/imei number had been cloned from a valid phone....
    Sounds like he was providing an alternate number. I would ask for a picture of the Note 3 with the number showing. This information can be found within the settings so there's no reason he can't provide it.

    It may be best to avoid any further contact and walk away though.

    Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (Verizon)
    04-09-2014 05:22 PM
  22. bitrate's Avatar
    Oh no, this happened a few weeks back and I didn't go through with it after I ran the ESN check. I was just wondering what the fake Note 3's check out as when you run their ESN/IMEI through a verifer.
    04-09-2014 05:52 PM
  23. Crxssroad's Avatar
    Oh no, this happened a few weeks back and I didn't go through with it after I ran the ESN check. I was just wondering what the fake Note 3's check out as when you run their ESN/IMEI through a verifer.
    I wouldn't be able to tell you for sure, but when I had the clone and tried to activate it at a service provider, I was told that the phone was supposedly already activated somewhere in Florida(I live in the north). I wasn't told whether it was another Note 3 or a different phone altogether(although at the time I had assumed that the phone I had was simply under a contract I was not aware of). In hindsight, the IMEI probably belonged to a different phone.

    Sent by my lady friend, Note 3
    04-13-2014 12:51 PM
  24. gembee's Avatar
    Hi,
    I purchased a Note 3 fake/clone in Bangkok (deliberately, I knew what I was getting). It works well for all the basic functions. It is great for phone, SMS, wireless internet browsing, Skype works fine too. It was unlocked and worked fine after inserting my SIM for me here in Australia.
    Some other differences I've noticed between the genuine and fakes.......
    1) the S-Pen as mentioned previously. The fake is a solid piece of plastic with no clickable button on the side. It does work okay on the screen, clicking icons or on the keyboard. it also works in S Memo. I tried a real S-pen from a work colleague on my fake and it did not work at all on the fake.
    2) the fake Note 3 doesn't have the full run of Apps as standard. I am missing S-Note, S-Voice to name a few. It has S-memo which is sufficient but missing extra features found in S-Note.
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    04-21-2014 08:31 AM
  25. abarzua21's Avatar
    There is also an app you can download in google play called genuine galaxy and this will tell you if your phone is real or fake! And it works great because I tried on mine, it said "congratulations, you have a real note 3" then I tried on my friends, which we knew herd was fake and it said on her "sorry this is not a genuine galaxy note 3" so it works guys, try it.

    Sent from my SM-N900 using AC Forums mobile app
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    05-06-2014 05:53 PM
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