[Eclipse2K]

So when I first got my black Note 4 I put this glass protector on called Bear Motion

Amazon.com: Galaxy Note 4 Screen Protector - Bear Motion Premium Tempered Glass Screen Protector for Galaxy Note 4: Cell Phones & Accessories

It covered very close to every square millimeter of the screen. Any larger and the case could have pushed it up, but it didn't. It did have the halo but you could only see it when the screen was off. Problem I thought was the screen protector was a fingerprint magnet. The surface is extremely polished, smooth and reflective but very very clear.

So today I took delivery of a second Note 4, a white one. Stripped that screen protector off the black one and then plopped it down on the new white phone. It looks good but likes fingerprints like the FBI.

So I put this protector back on the black Note 2:

Supershieldz Tempered Glass Screen Protector Shield for Samsung Galaxy Note 4 | eBay

This one I received an email telling me delivery was delayed because they we haloing. Took an extra couple days but was timely. The Supershieldz is about 2 millimeters smaller than the Bear Motion but that also results in less halo, still does but not very noticeable and seems to be lessening as the adhesive sets. What I like about the Supershieldz is the finger prints are no problem and the surface is not as reflective. Hold onto your socks, Here are some photos of the Supershieldz through a microscope at 70X.

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Thanks for the photos. I don't know though... I think I'd go protector-less if I had to settle for leaving so much uncovered.

Samsung Galaxy S5 (Verizon)

[butterfly210]

LOL@ the "dreaded" halo effect....

I'm sure glad I grew out of OCD a very long time ago...

Wht halo? Is there a halo?!

[bokehsan]

Thanks for the photos. I don't know though... I think I'd go protector-less if I had to settle for leaving so much uncovered.

Samsung Galaxy S5 (Verizon)

you mean the 3% that is uncovered/parts of the phone that are never touched especially if you have a case

[Eclipse2K]

you mean the 3% that is uncovered/parts of the phone that are never touched especially if you have a case

I guess, but its not my finger that scratches the display. Most cases won't cover all of that. Samsung should have just stuck to flat glass.

Samsung Galaxy S5 (Verizon)

[lv2bsilly]

Yes it is. I ordered it a couple of days before it was pulled. This is the box it came in.
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Although I did not order the tempered glass screen, I did order the regular Spiegen protector when I ordered my N4. They sent the protector right away and then a couple weeks later I received another set but this time it said "updated" version. So I assume they will be sending u the correct ones once they fix it

[delco714]

I can see your halo...

[Skye Hui]

Guys...
I think you all are jumping in this tempered glass for N4 too early. I owned Original N4 from Korean. I tried a few tempered glass in Sunway Piramid and found it not too good in covering the edges. I discovered the N4's edge are curve comparing to straight N3's edge.

So, I am not sure if my N4 from Korean is going to be different than N4 Malaysia. But I hope my sharing info gives some insights to you.

All note 4 have curved edges, this was said during the unveiling in IFA back in Sept 3rd...

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[Android4life47]

OK I emailed iloome and asked them why if they made a glass screen protector for the iPhone 6 than why couldn't it be done for the note 4 and this is what they responded with

[monsieurms]

FWIW Zerolemon's N4 tempered glass screen protector is now available, still no batteries or cases though.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...cUvbUpU3985208

Well, I ordered the Spigen. Put it on. Seemed nice. Then, I noticed a speck of dust. Should've just ignored it. Forgot it was glass, not plastic, bent it up, cracked it. I liked the Spigen. Seemed fine. But I'll give this zerolemon a try--coming Monday. We''ll see if it is of the same quality at less $$$.

(Humiliated...)

[bertsirkin]

Just a rant...

After reading Iloomes description of what "9H" means (https://iloome.wordpress.com/tag/9h-hardness/), I learned that the "9H" rating on most tempered glass screen protectors has to do with how hard a pencil needs to be before it will scratch the screen protector.

This is interesting information, but, with all the stupid tests (dropping a bowling ball, bending, blender, etc., etc.) that are done on YouTube on the Note 4, it why doesn't somebody do a REALLY useful test - determine the hardness of the stock glass screen?

[Dankees]

Just get this stuff: Crystalusion and put the phone in a good case and it'll be very, very protected. I have OCD, and this is my plan.

In the future, if the screen protectors are better, I can always get one.

[tarpon6]

Just get this stuff: Crystalusion and put the phone in a good case and it'll be very, very protected. I have OCD, and this is my plan.

In the future, if the screen protectors are better, I can always get one.

One reviewer experienced problems and it sounds like a pain to get off. One user reports it gets "smudgy" after a while. Another says after a short time it becomes a dust and fingerprint magnet. I put on a film protector for now, which will be easy to get off when I find a good tempered glass protector.

[Dankees]

One reviewer experienced problems and it sounds like a pain to get off. One user reports it gets "smudgy" after a while. Another says after a short time it becomes a dust and fingerprint magnet. I put on a film protector for now, which will be easy to get off when I find a good tempered glass protector.

Which user?

[ChemMan]

I guess, but its not my finger that scratches the display. Most cases won't cover all of that. Samsung should have just stuck to flat glass.

Samsung Galaxy S5 (Verizon)

People who unbox and use the phone without protection of any sort are going to be very happy with the beautiful glass, new grippier metal edges and backside. She is such a beautiful object of well deserved affection, it seems like a sin to dress her in cases and screen protectors.

[monsieurms]

People who unbox and use the phone without protection of any sort are going to be very happy with the beautiful glass, new grippier metal edges and backside. She is such a beautiful object of well deserved affection, it seems like a sin to dress her in cases and screen protectors.

That's how I feel often about certain Hollywood actresses, too, but still, prudence dictates that nudity is not always acceptable or advisable and bad things may happen if running around naked all the time.

[tarpon6]

Which user?

Amazon Reviews.

[Comp1demon]

SO what seems to be the best option for a screen protector? Glass or otherwise that works well at the moment? Spegen? Nuglas? Zerolemon? Other?

[ChemMan]

Just a rant...

After reading Iloomes description of what "9H" means (https://iloome.wordpress.com/tag/9h-hardness/), I learned that the "9H" rating on most tempered glass screen protectors has to do with how hard a pencil needs to be before it will scratch the screen protector.

This is interesting information, but, with all the stupid tests (dropping a bowling ball, bending, blender, etc., etc.) that are done on YouTube on the Note 4, it why doesn't somebody do a REALLY useful test - determine the hardness of the stock glass screen?

So my Note 2 screen protector had a 9H hardness or so it said. It was great. I built a plastic adapter to hold a 10X loupe but I had to take the case off and attach the loupe adapter directly to the phone. I was looking at some sand with tiny gold nuggets shooting pictures with the Note 2 through the loupe and spilled a small bit of the sand on my lab bench. Subsequently I removed the loupe and had set the phone face down on the lab bench. At some point I bumped the phone and it turned 1/4 turn on the bench and I heard a scratching sound as it rotated. Some of the sand was under the phone and had scratched a significant 1/2" groove in the screen protector. The culprit was a tiny quartz crystal in the sand. Hardness on the quartz is known to be 7 on the Mohs scale, tempered glass is typically about a 7 on the Mohs scale also. Obviously the glass was scratched by the quartz and diamonds are used to cut diamonds so this proves that. Supposedly Gorilla Glass made by Corning has a hardness of 9 on the Mohs scale so if you want something less scratch resistant make darn sure it is Gorilla Glass®. GG replaces the typical Sodium in the glass surface with atoms of Potassium making it stronger or so Corning says. I have not tested this theory. Yet...

[ChemMan]

That's how I feel often about certain Hollywood actresses, too, but still, prudence dictates that nudity is not always acceptable or advisable and bad things may happen if running around naked all the time.

Hey, it is how I feel about my wife and we have some beautiful children.

[tarpon6]

SO what seems to be the best option for a screen protector? Glass or otherwise that works well at the moment? Spegen? Nuglas? Zerolemon? Other?

Either a film protector or glass protector that is 2 - 3 mm short of the Note 4 glass (such as Spigen or Supershieldz above) is the best bet until someone makes a protector that curves with the Note 4 glass.

[ChemMan]

Well, I ordered the Spigen. Put it on. Seemed nice. Then, I noticed a speck of dust. Should've just ignored it. Forgot it was glass, not plastic, bent it up, cracked it. I liked the Spigen. Seemed fine. But I'll give this zerolemon a try--coming Monday. We''ll see if it is of the same quality at less $$$.

(Humiliated...)

So, what, were you me yesterday? I did exactly the same thing except I did not break the screen protector. The corner I kept pulling back up with my fingernail folded the adhesive over onto it's self and now it won't sit flat so one corner is more "Haloed" than the rest of the thing. Next time...

[nugj]

I have got a Liguid Glass coming. Figure to give that a try. iloome has been saying their original efforts were a failure for several weeks now. I am not sure that email was approved by the iloome marketing department. Either it was not or they are asleep at the switch. I would not have worded anything that way. If iloome were actually to think the N4 edge is "ridiculously steep" what will they think of the Edge....impossibly steep I would imagine.

Anyway, if they fail at least IMO Corning Glass will be the only group left with a shot at this that might get it done unless somebody comes out of the woodwork.

At any rate, my concern is that if the screen protector ends in one place and the case ends in another, you will create a natural troth between them were all sorts of garbage will land (good luck during that trip to the beach....sand). Stuff will land there, mix with moisture from the air, harden and start to dig at the glass in that spot pushed down farther by the two edges (case and protector) that don't overlap. Even the few manufactures that make both cases and screens are not designing them in tandem, to work with each other.

I do think it unfortunate that most of the reviews we get that we would trust are somewhat unprofessional in nature and those that might rise above that are biased. Manufacturers in general should be doing a better job of representing their products to this market segment especially when you consider its size. Their marketing efforts are often juvenile and completely unhelpful to people trying to make a decision. My God if a case manufacturer ever released dims for his product the world would come to an end apparently.

[reesh11]

I figure since none of the screen protectors fit properly that liquid was the best way to go. I haven't had any problems and it doesn't attract fingerprints for me and it's very resistant to liquid. A few drops of water got on my screen and I could tell it was "resisting" lol

From my smokin' hot Note 4

[bertsirkin]

... so if you want something less scratch resistant make darn sure it is Gorilla Glass®. GG replaces the typical Sodium in the glass surface with atoms of Potassium making it stronger or so Corning says. I have not tested this theory. Yet...

I found out that the Note 4 has Gorilla Glass 3, but I can't find anything definitive that lists what the hardness rating is of that glass. I've sent Corning an email asking them what the hardness rating is, but haven't heard yet. I'll post the results once I know it.

[Comp1demon]

On the Mohs scale of hardness, Gorilla Glass scores a 6.8, which puts it just below a mineral like Quartz. Sapphire is the second hardest naturally occurring material on the planet, behind diamond. and scores 9 on the Mohs scale of mineral hardness. This test matches one substance's ability to scratch another - and so is a better indicator of scratch resistance than shatter resistance.

“Chemically strengthened glass can be excellent, but sapphire is better in terms of hardness, strength, and toughness,” said Matthew Hall, Director of the Center for Advanced Ceramic Technology at the Kazuo Inamori School of Engineering at Alfred University, quoted in Tech Crunch. “The fracture toughness of sapphire should be around 4 times greater than Gorilla Glass – about 3 MPa-m0.5 versus 0.7 MPa-m0.5, respectively.”

Before anyone says this is original gorilla glass - it is gorilla glass 3 the review was done in april 2014

Also found this....

macrumors.com/2013/05/22/corning-pits-gorilla-glass-3-against-sapphire-plans-reflection-reduction-and-antimicrobial-technology/