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  1. tarheel1400's Avatar
    I love the Otterbox Defender for my AT&T Note 4.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    10-26-2014 03:50 AM
  2. nugj's Avatar
    What you are missing is the premise for the difference. It has nothing to do with deciding to put a hole one place vs another place.

    All of the carriers have supported competing technologies over the years. That is lost now in the deep dark history of the change from analog cellular to digital cellular. Some of you may not even know there was once a thing called "analog cellular".

    Now we are up to LTE and even "4" or 4LTE for that matter having by generation worked through 2G and 3G and there is little in the way of competition on the technology front. Now that we are up to 4LTE there is little to distinguish the 4LTE package on a Verizon radio tray from the 4LTE package on an AT&T radio tray. But even through 2G and 3G various hardware designers and manufacturers struggled with making a 2G or 3G radio that could live on the same radio tray with whatever previous digital technology had to be supported. Everything must be backwards compatible by FCC rule. So while there might be little to distinguish a 4LTE package in a Verizon phone from one in an AT&T phone all of the 2G and 3G radios have to be backwards compatible based on what choices said carrier made in the past. In fact, these babies have to be backwards compatible all the way back to any digital phone technology deployed and still in use anywhere by a particular carrier.

    At one time there was a fierce competition between CDMA technology developers and GSM technology developers. They fought tooth and nail to convince the various carriers to choose their technology. The developers also fought tooth and nail to convince major hardware manufacturers to build equipment based on their technology. The costs involved were enormous and as big as some of these hardware manufacturers where, they often felt compelled to stick their foot in one camp or the other.

    Here, Verizon was the big win for the CDMA camp. AT&T was the big win for the GSM camp. Worldwide, GSM clobbered CDMA. However where CDMA won it usually won big ala' Verizon just as an example. While all this was happening on the technology front, various auctions were held by governing bodies like the FCC here for frequency blocks by territory. As a result, here we ended up with multiple carriers supporting various digital phone technologies with different frequency blocks across each of their footprints. That was not so much the case in Europe where the overarching "wisdom" was that "technology competition" would not allow enough volume to accrue to any one technology preventing any one of them from being driven sufficiently down the cost curve. So Europe made one decision for the whole kit and caboodle. That decision was for GSM. Talk about huge financial gambles and stakes.

    At any rate FCC rules require that all of the carriers must be backwards compatible with every digital technology they have supported and deployed and in all of the various frequency blocks they own. The time spans within this FCC rule are daunting....far longer for example than what the FCC required for the conversion to digital TV. So while all of the N4's look like N4's there are different N4's based on what technologies have to be supported. So the Verizon radio tray is not the same as the AT&T radio tray. In fact, the Verizon radio tray is likely dissimilar when compared to any of the other radio trays in any of the other US carrier based N4's. It might not be the same size as the AT&T radio tray using AT&T as an example. The trace lines especially to the antennas may have been put in different places because of the actual locations of components on the radio tray. I suspect that differences in the radio tray is what has ultimately resulted in the Verizon version of an N4 having a different location for the left side mic hole. Remember, not only did that hole have to be moved, but Sammy had to incorporate a funnel to help drive your voice up to the mic location. So it also had to be set back farther than the norm. This funnel is what makes me think it is likely the radio tray and the antenna trace lines that forced this issue. Trust me, this has nothing to do with Verizon trying to sell more cases. It is if anything entirely an issue of the radio tray and antenna and other trace line locations in a Verizon version N4.
    saneace likes this.
    10-26-2014 04:23 AM
  3. nosh1tman's Avatar
    I found this image from SupCase on Amazon:

    What Carrying Case Is Best For Galaxy Note 4?-71ptcjf8z5l._sl1205_.jpg

    It shows the left mic hole is slightly different for each of the 4 carriers.
    And that their case has a tunnel which allows sound to move through and into the mic.
    10-26-2014 08:16 AM
  4. dpham00's Avatar
    The issue is with Verizon phones. ALL cases to date, to my knowledge, have this problem. For some reason, the Verizon microphone is located in a different place than the other Note 4's - this is going to be one heck of a big problem with the case manufacturers!
    Not all. The $15 official Samsung one is ok.



    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4What Carrying Case Is Best For Galaxy Note 4?-imageuploadedbytapatalk1414331932.107788.jpg
    10-26-2014 08:58 AM
  5. dpham00's Avatar
    What Carrying Case Is Best For Galaxy Note 4?-imageuploadedbytapatalk1414332137.817750.jpg

    In comparison the spigen one


    Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
    10-26-2014 09:02 AM
  6. Trindadi84's Avatar
    I have the spigen slim armor with my verizon note 4 and have not had issues with people hearing me. Did not even realize there was a problem until I saw this thread!
    10-26-2014 09:26 AM
  7. brun019822's Avatar
    The problem with the ringkje case is the fact that it sits the camera flush with the back of the case so basically your camera is sitting on whatever surface your phone is on...
    thats not true, the case has a lip around the camera so it does not sit flush
    10-26-2014 10:18 AM
  8. bharding08's Avatar
    How massive does it make it? Any pics?

    Posted via Android Central App
    10-26-2014 10:18 AM
  9. tdgwf's Avatar
    I'll post a picture when I get another phone to take it with. This is just the case by itself. No lip
    10-26-2014 10:23 AM
  10. areyes163's Avatar
    So far I have found the official Samsung case and the otterbox defender works fine with the Verizon version.
    10-26-2014 11:16 AM
  11. areyes163's Avatar
    I am looking For a wallet case for my note . Any suggestions? The Montblanc is nice but to expensive for me. Any ideas.

    Beamed across the web from my Beastly Galaxy Note 4!!
    10-26-2014 01:29 PM
  12. Ozone777's Avatar
    I found this image from SupCase on Amazon:

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    It shows the left mic hole is slightly different for each of the 4 carriers.
    And that their case has a tunnel which allows sound to move through and into the mic.
    Good information but if you notice, in the picture, the AT&T and Verizon graphics are switched.
    The AT&T left mic should be closer to the USB than the Verizon left mic is.
    SupCase got it backwards.
    felloffthetruck likes this.
    10-26-2014 02:04 PM
  13. Ozone777's Avatar
    I actually have the AT&T N4 and had the same problem with a cheap no-name case I bought off Ebay.
    It appeared to have been made for the Verizon model.
    Had to drill out the left mic hole.

    I also noticed that the speaker cut out on this case was slightly off.
    For the Verizon owners that have the Spigen cases, do you notice the speaker cut out being slightly off as well as the left mic hole?
    Maybe the mic hole is not the only difference between the Verizon and AT&T versions.
    10-26-2014 02:23 PM
  14. ajneuman's Avatar
    I'm hoping for a less expensive version of the Montblanc myself.

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    10-26-2014 02:55 PM
  15. areyes163's Avatar
    Me to the montblanc is very nice. I just can't justify spending that much myself. The spigen looks nice nice I read the magnet messes up the s pen.

    Beamed across the web from my Beastly Galaxy Note 4!!
    10-26-2014 03:01 PM
  16. Hebei27's Avatar
    Haven't seen one either; got mine yesterday. There is a great wallet style by Pdair like the one I used on my Galaxy Nexus which has one, but I don't know about whether it will accept one. Just sent them an Email to enquire. Guess for now I will carry it around in my pocket
    10-26-2014 03:13 PM
  17. Hebei27's Avatar
    Seidio makes quality products, but costs an arm and a leg for anything
    mty msi likes this.
    10-26-2014 03:14 PM
  18. ajneuman's Avatar
    Seidio made a nice folio case for the N3. I'm hoping they make it for the N4.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    10-26-2014 03:22 PM
  19. ajneuman's Avatar
    Ok, so I have it narrowed down, for now, to the Spigen Neo Hybrid, the Verus Iron Shield, and the Caseology Bumper Frame one. I also thought about a UAG, but this is already tough enough as it is. Any help helping me choose?

    Note 2 via Android Central App
    I've narrowed it down to these 3 cases as well. Anyone receive the caseology or Verus cases yet?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    10-26-2014 03:25 PM
  20. dpham00's Avatar
    Those of you that ordered from amazon, contact them for a refund.



    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4
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    10-26-2014 03:46 PM
  21. OptiPrime's Avatar
    Using an ugly Ballistic white n grey case b.c i need some protection and the Sprint store only had the black Otterbox. Really wanted the Otterbox defender with the white shell and the blaze pink cover but oh well.

    It just for work and out and about. I keep it naked in the house, drop on carpet shouldn't hurt.
    10-26-2014 05:18 PM
  22. felloffthetruck's Avatar
    Good information but if you notice, in the picture, the AT&T and Verizon graphics are switched.
    The AT&T left mic should be closer to the USB than the Verizon left mic is.
    SupCase got it backwards.
    You are 100% correct. Verizon is the one farther away from the charging port. I'm just going to order a UAG case that I know is made right.
    10-26-2014 05:23 PM
  23. anon(66956)'s Avatar
    I have the black Ringke Slim case and it has a lip around the camera.
    10-26-2014 09:07 PM
  24. jspring86's Avatar
    Those of you that ordered from amazon, contact them for a refund.



    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4

    Did they give you a label to mail it back or they just refunded it before sending it in?
    10-26-2014 09:44 PM
  25. dpham00's Avatar
    Did they give you a label to mail it back or they just refunded it before sending it in?
    Full refund, didn't need to send it back.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4
    10-27-2014 12:54 AM
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