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  1. Slashyou's Avatar
    I've had phones that had something go wrong and they denied the warranty because the little moisture detection sticker had changed colors, even though the problem had nothing to do with getting wet.

    I've also had a few phones die after legitimately getting wet. One time I fell out of the boat while fishing, another time I was fixing a water leak and got too wet, another time my son's phone fell in the sink while he was washing dishes.

    This was all over a 15 year period, so it's not like it happens all the time. But I'm also a lot more careful than I would be if it was waterproof. I don't use it in the rain, don't use it in the shower, don't use it at the pool, hot tub, boat, fishing, etc.

    I know a lot of you guys don't care about the waterproofing or lack thereof, but you're only 1 unexpected rainstorm away from a dead phone. Odds say it probably won't happen, but why take the chance at all if a "lesser" phone (the S5) has the waterproofing feature?

    I saw Samsung announced a Galaxy Tab active. So that means Samsung offers waterproof phones, Ave waterproof tablets, but for some reason the Note got skipped.

    Next time you're on a bike ride and it unexpectedly starts raining, it would be helpful if the phone was waterproof.


    (disclaimer, I know nothing is ever truly "waterproof" and I use the term loosely, I really mean water resistant, at the same level as the Galaxy S5)
    Xcover and stuff and s5 active might be the phone for you then but you can buy water stickers to regain warrenty and stuff
    09-04-2014 11:29 AM
  2. WatermelonSlim's Avatar
    Xcover and stuff and s5 active might be the phone for you then but you can buy water stickers to regain warrenty and stuff
    I currently have a Note 3. The S5 wouldn't work for me.
    09-04-2014 11:39 AM
  3. Slashyou's Avatar
    I currently have a Note 3. The S5 wouldn't work for me.
    Tape it up
    09-04-2014 11:39 AM
  4. WatermelonSlim's Avatar
    Tape it up
    Haha, yeah. If we all buy the hot new flagship phone, then ghetto it up with tape, maybe Samsung would keep the next one classy and add waterproofing to it so we don't ghetto that one up too.
    09-04-2014 12:04 PM
  5. Slashyou's Avatar
    Haha, yeah. If we all buy the hot new flagship phone, then ghetto it up with tape, maybe Samsung would keep the next one classy and add waterproofing to it so we don't ghetto that one up too.
    Just like i thought that way we can male samsung give us waterproof and i want an ipod touch with ios 7 as well build in lets tale a ipod to it and samsung will get us it!
    09-04-2014 12:08 PM
  6. anon(27512)'s Avatar
    I don't think either note is waterproof but it's not a deal breaker for me.
    09-04-2014 12:24 PM
  7. Deke218's Avatar
    What?

    As explained by Samsung. The Note 4 isn't geared for the same market as the S5. The S5 was meant to be a very popular device geared toward the out-doorsie, active lifestyle of youth. The N4 is meant for the creative workaholic who hasn't has a vacation in 12 years and live to work.
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    09-04-2014 12:27 PM
  8. A895's Avatar
    What phone do you have now just curious I have a GSM galaxy nexus.
    Check my profile.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    09-04-2014 01:33 PM
  9. Slashyou's Avatar
    Check my profile.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Saw 1min after posting lol razr m
    09-04-2014 01:34 PM
  10. WatermelonSlim's Avatar
    What?

    As explained by Samsung. The Note 4 isn't geared for the same market as the S5. The S5 was meant to be a very popular device geared toward the out-doorsie, active lifestyle of youth. The N4 is meant for the creative workaholic who hasn't has a vacation in 12 years and live to work.
    So Samsung doesn't think professionals would like a waterproof phone?

    Aside from the fact that a large number of so called professionals actually get wet at work, the ones who stay dry (like myself) often have a life outside of work. We go camping, ride jet skis, etc. Or, like some of my coworkers, ride bikes to work, or wait for a bus or train and occasionally get caught in a rain storm.

    Or maybe they have kids that might throw it in a toilet or something.

    I just find it laughable that professionals wouldn't want their phone to be waterproof if everything else was equal.
    09-04-2014 01:37 PM
  11. Eclipse2K's Avatar
    So Samsung doesn't think professionals would like a waterproof phone?

    Aside from the fact that a large number of so called professionals actually get wet at work, the ones who stay dry (like myself) often have a life outside of work. We go camping, ride jet skis, etc. Or, like some of my coworkers, ride bikes to work, or wait for a bus or train and occasionally get caught in a rain storm.

    Or maybe they have kids that might throw it in a toilet or something.

    I just find it laughable that professionals wouldn't want their phone to be waterproof if everything else was equal.
    Again, not water proof but water resistant. Your life style with jet skis isn't exactly what you should be doing even with an S5. I won't trust water resistance until its a non removable battery with a sealed cover. The ports must be water resistant without any covers. There are just too many variables when you have a removable battery and charging cover.

    I prefer a sealed phone anyways and wish Samsung would do an HTC One type build but too many people rely on removable batteries. I mean people complained about the Droid Maxx being non removable which I found ridiculous considering you'd have to watch 7 hours of video to kill it. Lol

    Samsung Galaxy S5 (Verizon)
    09-04-2014 02:06 PM
  12. xxx420's Avatar
    Truly bummed about not water resistant but it's not a deal breaker for me. Still a very worthwhile upgrade from my nexus 5. Just the s pen and camera upgrade alone are worth it. Then throw in bigger better display and bigger battery, easy upgrade for me.

    Posted via Android Central App
    09-04-2014 02:19 PM
  13. WatermelonSlim's Avatar
    Again, not water proof but water resistant. Your life style with jet skis isn't exactly what you should be doing even with an S5. I won't trust water resistance until its a non removable battery with a sealed cover. The ports must be water resistant without any covers. There are just too many variables when you have a removable battery and charging cover.

    I prefer a sealed phone anyways and wish Samsung would do an HTC One type build but too many people rely on removable batteries. I mean people complained about the Droid Maxx being non removable which I found ridiculous considering you'd have to watch 7 hours of video to kill it. Lol

    Samsung Galaxy S5 (Verizon)
    Water resistant is what I mean. If we're being technicality correct then nothing is truly waterproof. You can always get a stream of water at a high enough pressure to cut anything. So "waterproof" is just a kind of slang to mean "water resistant" most of the time.

    I'd be perfectly fine if the Note 4 "only" had the same level of water resistance as the Galaxy S5. It's what I expected it to launch with.

    If it could do this:
    http://bgr.com/2014/04/08/is-the-gal...ly-waterproof/

    The Galaxy S5 is IP67 certified, meaning it can stay submerged in 1 meter of water for 30 minutes. That's plenty good enough to go jet skiing. If the Note 4 was IP67 certified, I'd be talking about how excited I am to get it, instead of how disappointed I am that it's missing a feature from the S5. And I'd definitely consider it a worthwhile upgrade from my Note 3.
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    09-04-2014 02:40 PM
  14. A895's Avatar
    Saw 1min after posting lol razr m
    One of the most reliable phones I have ever owned.
    09-04-2014 03:24 PM
  15. Slashyou's Avatar
    One of the most reliable phones I have ever owned.
    Always loved motorola and their phones and im gonna be happy to see moto x+1
    09-04-2014 03:27 PM
  16. Eclipse2K's Avatar
    Water resistant is what I mean. If we're being technicality correct then nothing is truly waterproof. You can always get a stream of water at a high enough pressure to cut anything. So "waterproof" is just a kind of slang to mean "water resistant" most of the time.

    I'd be perfectly fine if the Note 4 "only" had the same level of water resistance as the Galaxy S5. It's what I expected it to launch with.

    If it could do this:
    http://bgr.com/2014/04/08/is-the-gal...ly-waterproof/

    The Galaxy S5 is IP67 certified, meaning it can stay submerged in 1 meter of water for 30 minutes. That's plenty good enough to go jet skiing. If the Note 4 was IP67 certified, I'd be talking about how excited I am to get it, instead of how disappointed I am that it's missing a feature from the S5. And I'd definitely consider it a worthwhile upgrade from my Note 3.
    I agree with you on IP67. The issue is when you have a removable battery cover and a cheap charging port cover, you're asking for trouble. I've read a few reports of people swearing they sealed properly and with minimal water had the device mess get damaged.

    Even if its a user error thing its still a risk. Personally, I would feel much better if there was a sealed battery compartment and a port that didn't require the cover like Sony has done. That's all my opinion though.

    Samsung Galaxy S5 (Verizon)
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    09-04-2014 03:34 PM
  17. WatermelonSlim's Avatar
    I agree with you on IP67. The issue is when you have a removable battery cover and a cheap charging port cover, you're asking for trouble. I've read a few reports of people swearing they sealed properly and with minimal water had the device mess get damaged.

    Even if its a user error thing its still a risk. Personally, I would feel much better if there was a sealed battery compartment and a port that didn't require the cover like Sony has done. That's all my opinion though.

    Samsung Galaxy S5 (Verizon)
    Even so, removable battery cover, charging port cover, it's still better than nothing.
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    09-04-2014 03:56 PM
  18. Slashyou's Avatar
    I agree with you on IP67. The issue is when you have a removable battery cover and a cheap charging port cover, you're asking for trouble. I've read a few reports of people swearing they sealed properly and with minimal water had the device mess get damaged.

    Even if its a user error thing its still a risk. Personally, I would feel much better if there was a sealed battery compartment and a port that didn't require the cover like Sony has done. That's all my opinion though.

    Samsung Galaxy S5 (Verizon)
    But the spen hole might allow water to seep through. But if you want it waterproof get a waterproof cover
    Even so, removable battery cover, charging port cover, it's still better than nothing.
    09-04-2014 04:07 PM
  19. WatermelonSlim's Avatar
    But the spen hole might allow water to seep through. But if you want it waterproof get a waterproof cover
    They could make the s pen hole water resistant if they wanted to. Just put a rubber seal around the inside, like an O ring or a washer. Or put one on the end of the s pen itself. It wouldn't be that difficult.

    Next year when the Note 5 is water resistant, it won't be due to ground breaking technology that doesn't exist today.
    09-04-2014 04:15 PM
  20. Slashyou's Avatar
    They could make the s pen hole water resistant if they wanted to. Just put a rubber seal around the inside, like an O ring or a washer. Or put one on the end of the s pen itself. It wouldn't be that difficult.
    Or nanocoating but it makes the phone more prone to cracking/bending. As the phone isn,t good as soon as nanocoating gets on the screen and makes me want to crack it
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    09-04-2014 04:18 PM
  21. Deke218's Avatar
    Samsung made a water resistant phone for active professionals. Its called the S[port]5. Personally, I'd never take my Note 2,3 or 4 to the beach, on a hike, mountain climbing even if it were water resistant. Still, the Note 4 isn't water resistant. Maybe they'll come out with one next year. A special sports model N4.
    09-04-2014 04:27 PM
  22. WatermelonSlim's Avatar
    Samsung made a water resistant phone for active professionals. Its called the S[port]5. Personally, I'd never take my Note 2,3 or 4 to the beach, on a hike, mountain climbing even if it were water resistant. Still, the Note 4 isn't water resistant. Maybe they'll come out with one next year. A special sports model N4.
    Does the S in Galaxy S really mean sport? I don't think it really does. I always thought it meant Samsung. Which is why they made a Galaxy S active. It wouldn't really make much sense to have an active if it was already a sport model.

    I would bet dollars to donuts the Note 5 will be water resistant. They didn't decide "we don't want the phone of "professionals" to be prone to water damage" and it certainly wasn't a technological roadblock that prevented it either.

    It was probably a matter of time. They wanted the Note 4 released in October, and they didn't have time to get a water resistant version out by then. Maybe they had issues getting the metal to seal properly, as previous posters speculated, so they went with the water vulnerable version and they'll get the water resistance perfected by next year.

    Or maybe it was the cost. Maybe they didn't want to spend the extra money to get it right, and they'll revisit that decision at a later date.


    I can guarantee you it's not because they decided "it's for professionals, and professionals hate water so they'll never be around it and would be upset if their phone was water resistant."

    There is no law that says a phone can't both be for professionals, and also be water resistant. And there is no law that says since I plan on using my phone in a professional environment, I have to hate it if it's water resistant.

    I'm a professional, and I take my Note 3 camping, hiking, hunting, boating, riding, etc, all the time. I also take it to work every day.
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    09-04-2014 05:29 PM
  23. WatermelonSlim's Avatar
    Or nanocoating but it makes the phone more prone to cracking/bending. As the phone isn,t good as soon as nanocoating gets on the screen and makes me want to crack it
    Hahahaha!
    09-04-2014 06:03 PM
  24. RionDunn's Avatar
    I've had phones that had something go wrong and they denied the warranty because the little moisture detection sticker had changed colors, even though the problem had nothing to do with getting wet.

    I've also had a few phones die after legitimately getting wet. One time I fell out of the boat while fishing, another time I was fixing a water leak and got too wet, another time my son's phone fell in the sink while he was washing dishes.

    This was all over a 15 year period, so it's not like it happens all the time. But I'm also a lot more careful than I would be if it was waterproof. I don't use it in the rain, don't use it in the shower, don't use it at the pool, hot tub, boat, fishing, etc.

    I know a lot of you guys don't care about the waterproofing or lack thereof, but you're only 1 unexpected rainstorm away from a dead phone. Odds say it probably won't happen, but why should us Note fans have to take the chance at all if a "lesser" phone (the S5) has the waterproofing feature?

    I saw Samsung announced a Galaxy Tab active. So that means Samsung offers waterproof phones, and waterproof tablets, but for some reason the Note got skipped.

    Next time you're on a bike ride and it unexpectedly starts raining, it would be helpful if the phone was waterproof.


    (disclaimer, I know nothing is ever truly "waterproof" and I use the term loosely, I really mean water resistant, at the same level as the Galaxy S5)
    It's because of the S Pen. I guess it was difficult to water proof a gaping hole at the bottom of the phone. Use your note 4 to check the weather, if there's a small percentage of precipitation then put the phone in a zip lock bag in your back pack. Simple. Solved.
    Eclipse2K likes this.
    09-04-2014 09:54 PM
  25. WatermelonSlim's Avatar
    It's because of the S Pen. I guess it was difficult to water proof a gaping hole at the bottom of the phone. Use your note 4 to check the weather, if there's a small percentage of precipitation then put the phone in a zip lock bag in your back pack. Simple. Solved.
    Not solved, lol. Keep my Note 3 and wait for the Note 5, which will surely be waterproof. Now it's solved.

    Is not difficult to seal the s pen. Put an o ring around it. Simple.
    09-04-2014 10:15 PM
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