Note 4 Is a 2 year old phone realistic now?

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:) install a 4.4.4 rom then :) trust me you will love it :)

We get it, you still love rooting slashyou, now please leave it there in this thread - Thanks.

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I had a GS2 until recently, still on 4.1.2 and the OS had nothing really missing compared to 4.3 and 4.4 on my Note 3, so I would also keep an original Note on the last OS version destined for it.
Glad it's running well, and no app issues as yet.

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We get it, you still love rooting slashyou, now please leave it there in this thread - Thanks.

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I had a GS2 until recently, still on 4.1.2 and the OS had nothing really missing compared to 4.3 and 4.4 on my Note 3, so I would also keep an original Note on the last OS version destined for it.
Glad it's running well, and no app issues as yet.

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I bet you android without root is more boring then ios 3.1.3 LOL just root and enjoy :)
 

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We get it, you still love rooting slashyou, now please leave it there in this thread - Thanks.

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@ohbreeezy
I had a GS2 until recently, still on 4.1.2 and the OS had nothing really missing compared to 4.3 and 4.4 on my Note 3, so I would also keep an original Note on the last OS version destined for it.
Glad it's running well, and no app issues as yet.

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Cool am gonna talk a bit more about root here :)
 

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This thread has now been taken over so I as the OP am out.
Post here if you wish.

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Who has had a recent generation smartphone (2010/2011+) in heavy use for 2 years without hardware issues?

Will anyone buying before this Christmas NOT change again before Christmas 2015?

I imagine very few. Current format touch screen devices *must be* limited in lifespan, and new design philosophies will change our wants long term anyway.

Ergonomics and modular phones will make inroads.

The days of 4+ year old phones are long gone.

So 2 questions really:

Does current hardware, specifically digitizers and screens, last?

Have current smartphones reached a peak, and we will all want something different in the very near future?


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WOW found out that root is cool it void knox and makes android better please root :) and thank me later cause now you cant you your phone 100% like if you buy a computer and the admin has a lock and you can only use guest that would be boring right?

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I wasn't worrying if a new purchase will last me two years, more wondering if many will keep theirs that long anymore.
I agree the Note 2 is still a great phone, and if I had got that instead of my puny GS2 in 2012, I would hopefully still have it now. But I think that's rare, and technology and people's expectations have changed a lot.
That Verizon have good no quibble support demonstrates more that they are not expecting phones to last. Maybe 2 year contracts will become unviable for carriers as well if they start having to replace so many. They would all have to encourage customers to upgrade early as many are doing.

We can all read so many posts where phones have failed within 12 - 16 months or less.

I would still buy outright, partly because I don't trust the major carriers here in the UK.

@dpham00 your phone is serving you exceedingly well I know. But maybe it is now more a streaming device and the screen and digitizer get less than regular use. Just a guess. Do you use your other phone/s for everyday use?

@Shanghaichica your mum may have a few more years in that iPhone 4, although I would guess switching to a newer iPhone and IOS is easier than swapping Android phones.

To repeat my story, before 2012 I had the same Sony Ericsson phone since 2004 (resistive touch screen with stylus!). Though like street sweeper Trigger's 22 year old broom in the UK comedy series, I had replaced the Broom Handle and Head many times.

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The screen does get less usage than before on the screen for sure, but still is a few hours a day at least. I do use an lg g pad 8.3 which is tethered to the note 3.

With regards to Verizon extended warranty, it is an option ($3/mo) that Verizon and other major usa carriers offer. Those who plan to keep the phone for over a year should consider an extended warranty plan, either on the carrier or third party. If not, be prepared, should it fail outside of warranty. It is highly unlikely that they would move to 1 year contracts as the cost would be quite a bit more. Verizon had one year contracts, but did away with it in 2011.

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This is really a great question. I usually get tired of the phone after about 6 months and am ready to try something new. In the past, software fragmentation was a big problem. I remember having a Droid Eris and feeling trapped because I couldn't have access to turn by turn navigation.

In the last couple of years, I have noticed that waiting for the OEM to push a software update through the carrier is like pulling teeth. I wont ever buy a phone not having the current OS version. My plan going forward (implementing it now with my G3) is to root and block future OTAs that would block potential exploits. Hopefully, I'll be able to get the bootloader unlocked so I can install custom ROMs like CM11. At that point, my device will be able to keep up as long as the hardware remains viable.

A year ago, I gave my wife my one year old iPhone 5. Although functional even without a power button, that device is EOL even though it has the current OS. The point is wear and tear associated with daily use will drive you to a new phone before the OS is outdated. Two years is too long. You may be using duct tape to hold the thing together.
 

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Good points both.
With regards to Verizon extended warranty, it is an option ($3/mo) that Verizon and other major usa carriers offer. Those who plan to keep the phone for over a year should consider an extended warranty plan, either on the carrier or third party. If not, be prepared, should it fail outside of warranty. It is highly unlikely that they would move to 1 year contracts as the cost would be quite a bit more. Verizon had one year contracts, but did away with it in 2011.

Yeh, the monthlies would be way too high over 12 months of course --- and good advice.

In the last couple of years, I have noticed that waiting for the OEM to push a software update through the carrier is like pulling teeth. I wont ever buy a phone not having the current OS version. My plan going forward (implementing it now with my G3) is to root and block future OTAs that would block potential exploits. Hopefully, I'll be able to get the bootloader unlocked so I can install custom ROMs like CM11. At that point, my device will be able to keep up as long as the hardware remains viable.

A year ago, I gave my wife my one year old iPhone 5. Although functional even without a power button, that device is EOL even though it has the current OS. The point is wear and tear associated with daily use will drive you to a new phone before the OS is outdated. Two years is too long. You may be using duct tape to hold the thing together.
Yes, that's a good way to avoid another KitKat type Katastrophe (I had to!).

I wouldn't mind swapping every 6 months if I could justify it financially, it may be easy to sell and change up when you're not on contract. You may lose 150-250 but it's a hobby!

It can take me about 6 months to a year to adapt to a phone like the Note 3, so I may be tempted to stick to the same brand.
There are plenty of current phones I would love to try though, including Sony's, G3 and new Moto X.

Worth pointing out too that people treat phones differently, jus like batteries.
If you wrap phones in cotton wool they may last longer, but is it necessary?
 

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I had the LG NITRO (P930)
I used it for 4 years.
I still use it to download apps and test stuff out.
Came with 2.3.5. and was updated via LG mobile support tool to 4.0.4
If anything it performs better than my LG G3.
LG software or hardware seems to always reboot or shutdown for some reason.
I went with LG again only because it is easy to recover from boot loops and security errors.
 

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I would say yes, if it have KitKat (see CyanogenMod). I wouldn't even use a phone with version older than 4.3 right now.
 

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I am still using my Galaxy Nexus i515 as a home wifi phone and it has not had a hardware failure yet. With CyanogenMod it still gets OTA updates.
 

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I wanted to learn about stock phones. It may be better to root older phones and flash but the question was about whether the hardware/screen /digitser would last, and whether most people would upgrade after a year.

This is all gobbledygook to me and I currently have no interest in rooting.
On a cold winter weekend I may torture an old phone, but not right now

My phone is coming up to a 10 months old, my previous was 18 months and before that I had 7+ versions of a 2004 symbian phone.

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