1. bspill's Avatar
    I'm thinking of buying the N4 outright from Verizon, but, when I go to their website, it says that the monthly charge on the MORE plan is $40. Since I wouldn't be financing it, I would think the monthly charge would be less. I called Verizon and they appeared to be even more confused than me. Has anyone who paid unsubsidized price on a standard plan been charged the full $40 monthly charge?

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    09-21-2014 06:36 PM
  2. clevin's Avatar
    Is vzw your only viable choice in term of coverage?

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    09-21-2014 07:21 PM
  3. felloffthetruck's Avatar
    The average price for a Verizon smartphone service is $103.00 a month.
    09-21-2014 09:28 PM
  4. jweimn's Avatar
    I'm thinking of buying the N4 outright from Verizon, but, when I go to their website, it says that the monthly charge on the MORE plan is $40. Since I wouldn't be financing it, I would think the monthly charge would be less. I called Verizon and they appeared to be even more confused than me. Has anyone who paid unsubsidized price on a standard plan been charged the full $40 monthly charge?

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    Call them and process it over the phone, as far as the discount on the $40 charge yes it will be lower but the way it works is Verizon still charges you 40 but a bill credit is automatically applied bringing it down to the discounted price.
    09-21-2014 10:57 PM
  5. Andy847's Avatar
    That's why I left Verizon for AT&T. I get a $15 discount off the line fee for buying my Note 3 full price. If you bring your own device, you get that discount. I'm on the month to month mobile share plan unlimited talk, text, and 2gb data and pay $65 month plus taxes. I got tired of how much I was paying on Verizon, so when contract was up in August, I left and am not looking back.
    09-22-2014 12:49 AM
  6. Willn's Avatar
    The 40 bucks is to start another line, if your just looking to replace an old phone on an existing line you have to use the uprgrade option. It will ask if you want 2yr contract, edge, or full price. You chose full price and then it will ask you to pick an insurance option. After that it will review your old plan and ask if you would like to make any changes, then just check out. It wil keep your original plan and sell you a new phone at full price. I was confused a little aswell but eventually i figured it out and was able to preorder my note 4 without loosing my precious unlimited data.
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    09-22-2014 09:21 AM
  7. TabGuy's Avatar
    The average price for a Verizon smartphone service is $103.00 a month.
    Where did this come from? I have a family plan with 10 gig data and 5 phones (4 of them have insurance) and the monthly cost, including all taxes, is $315. That comes to an average of $63 per phone per month.
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    09-22-2014 12:43 PM
  8. Mr. Toad's Avatar
    I'm thinking of buying the N4 outright from Verizon, but, when I go to their website, it says that the monthly charge on the MORE plan is $40. Since I wouldn't be financing it, I would think the monthly charge would be less. I called Verizon and they appeared to be even more confused than me. Has anyone who paid unsubsidized price on a standard plan been charged the full $40 monthly charge?

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    You should be able to get the same discount as edge. $15 off for less then 10 GB of data. $25 for over that amount. I believe you have to be out of contract to get that discount.

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/e?l...token=Dil3fylS
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    09-22-2014 02:02 PM
  9. clevin's Avatar
    Where did this come from? I have a family plan with 10 gig data and 5 phones (4 of them have insurance) and the monthly cost, including all taxes, is $315. That comes to an average of $63 per phone per month.
    surely your family plan is not representative of the whole vzw business picture.

    here is more updated data

    A Little Confused About Verizon Plan for Note 4-monthly-phone-bill.png

    Average Monthly Bill Report: Verizon Most Expensive, T-Mobile Cheapest | Androidheadlines.com
    09-22-2014 05:45 PM
  10. Willn's Avatar
    ^^ The average bill costs and the average single line costs are 2 different things. The majority of wireless customers only hold 1 single line, most of the carriers have been trying to change this with there sharable plans to make customers less likely to leave them. The more number of lines you sign on increases the overall bill, but the cost per line generally goes down. Ive personally been paying only $92 for a single line for 4+ yrs with verizon.
    09-22-2014 06:40 PM
  11. dpham00's Avatar
    The average price for a Verizon smartphone service is $103.00 a month.
    surely your family plan is not representative of the whole vzw business picture.

    here is more updated data

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    I think different things are being said. Fell said that the average price for a Verizon smartphone service is $100 . this seems high. Now per account, mixing individual and family, I would believe the $148 number. And imo, paying less than 4% more to move from Sprint to Verizon is a no brainer.

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    09-22-2014 11:39 PM
  12. clevin's Avatar
    I think different things are being said. Fell said that the average price for a Verizon smartphone service is $100 . this seems high. Now per account, mixing individual and family, I would believe the $148 number. And imo, paying less than 4% more to move from Sprint to Verizon is a no brainer.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3
    lol, we all know how sprint is doing..... which is dying. Should really compare to ATT and TMobile.
    09-23-2014 04:55 AM
  13. dpham00's Avatar
    lol, we all know how sprint is doing..... which is dying. Should really compare to ATT and TMobile.
    Based on the most recent data that I could find, Verizon is first, followed by att, with tmobile in a distant third.


    http://www.rootmetrics.com/us/special-report-2014-1h-us

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3
    09-23-2014 07:50 AM
  14. Almeuit's Avatar
    lol, we all know how sprint is doing..... which is dying. Should really compare to ATT and TMobile.
    They definitely have some work ahead of them.
    09-23-2014 08:41 AM
  15. Wildo6882's Avatar
    Where did this come from? I have a family plan with 10 gig data and 5 phones (4 of them have insurance) and the monthly cost, including all taxes, is $315. That comes to an average of $63 per phone per month.
    Wow, that's really expensive. I have the same plan (data-wise, but only three phones) on AT&T and pay $142 after taxes and everything. I could add two more lines and still be $100 or more cheaper than your Verizon plan. Granted, I don't have insurance on any phone. But still, that seems REALLY high.
    09-23-2014 11:28 AM
  16. clevin's Avatar
    Based on the most recent data that I could find, Verizon is first, followed by att, with tmobile in a distant third.


    US special report 2014 1H | RootMetrics

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    its hard to quantify, I am not disputing VZW's quality is good, I simply don't think they are $25/mo better.
    09-23-2014 12:33 PM
  17. Willn's Avatar
    At&t is definitely the better value for a new customer. But that $25 difference is the subsidy that verizon has been very stingy about. At&t has stopped charging subsidies for anyone not on 2yr contract, and verizon should do the same but just haven't. I personaly would drop verizon for at&t if i wasnt grandfathered into unlimited data. I would then be able to bundle my cable, home Internet and wireless all in to 1 bill. But the deals just haven't been enticing enough to come off unlimited.
    09-23-2014 12:58 PM
  18. reesh11's Avatar
    At&t is definitely the better value for a new customer. But that $25 difference is the subsidy that verizon has been very stingy about. At&t has stopped charging subsidies for anyone not on 2yr contract, and verizon should do the same but just haven't. I personaly would drop verizon for at&t if i wasnt grandfathered into unlimited data. I would then be able to bundle my cable, home Internet and wireless all in to 1 bill. But the deals just haven't been enticing enough to come off unlimited.
    I heard all people will have to switch to newer data plans before long...

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    09-23-2014 01:02 PM
  19. Willn's Avatar
    Well they cant legally take it away as long as you dont sign a new contract. They have tried for a couple years now to make it less desirable, but for 20% of there customers who still have it they obviously will need to come up with a better sales approach.
    09-23-2014 01:08 PM
  20. tech_fan's Avatar
    I'm thinking of buying the N4 outright from Verizon, but, when I go to their website, it says that the monthly charge on the MORE plan is $40. Since I wouldn't be financing it, I would think the monthly charge would be less. I called Verizon and they appeared to be even more confused than me. Has anyone who paid unsubsidized price on a standard plan been charged the full $40 monthly charge?

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    Why would you want to pay the full price for the Note? It will not be worth anything in about 6 months. If you do the Edge program, you will get a line discount which will offset the payment required on the Edge. The line discount will range from 10-25 per line.
    09-23-2014 01:20 PM
  21. reesh11's Avatar
    Why would you want to pay the full price for the Note? It will not be worth anything in about 6 months. If you do the Edge program, you will get a line discount which will offset the payment required on the Edge. The line discount will range from 10-25 per line.
    The same applies for buying outright. I don't think it's worth nothing I usually get half what I paid for the phone when I sell it again if not more. I'm not tired down to a contract but either way you're gonna pay full retail. The rest of the price of the phone is "included" in the monthly bill which is why I think you get the discount. With edge you don't get to keep the phone so I don't really get the point of that.

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    09-23-2014 01:27 PM
  22. dpham00's Avatar
    its hard to quantify, I am not disputing VZW's quality is good, I simply don't think they are $25/mo better.
    As always these things are overall. TMobile doesn't get good service where I need it (home and work). On top of that, Verizon is way way cheaper for my needs. But everyone's situation is different


    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3
    09-23-2014 01:38 PM
  23. Almeuit's Avatar
    Well they cant legally take it away as long as you dont sign a new contract. They have tried for a couple years now to make it less desirable, but for 20% of there customers who still have it they obviously will need to come up with a better sales approach.
    Actually.. If you're not in contract there is no legal obligation from them to you.. So they could say swap to this or you will have to leave our network. They just aren't going to.. Way to much bad press for the small percent of customers with unlimited. Most with unlimited still don't use a ton so they don't care.
    09-23-2014 08:14 PM
  24. dpham00's Avatar
    Even if you are on contract, they can force you off unlimited, although they would have to let you leave without paying etf.

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    09-23-2014 11:27 PM
  25. Willn's Avatar
    Actually.. If you're not in contract there is no legal obligation from them to you.. So they could say swap to this or you will have to leave our network. They just aren't going to.. Way to much bad press for the small percent of customers with unlimited. Most with unlimited still don't use a ton so they don't care.
    Yes your right legaly there is no contract and verizon can refuse service at any time for any reason. But its not just that simple...they are not just avoiding bad press because its a small group. 20% is 1/5 of there customers, thats a large chunk of their business. The FCC would issue a large fine for unfair business practices, and verizon would be faceing several lawsuits for discrimination. To drop unlimited all together would leed verizon to loose most if not all of there unlimited customers to there competitors and pay out millions in fines and settlements. Oh yes and it would look bad.
    09-23-2014 11:45 PM
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