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  1. mty msi's Avatar
    Another gray area on Samsung's webpage is "participating retailer". Not quite sure how to read that as Samsung doesn't have a list of participating retailers that I could find. Someone else posted some retailers on the previous page of this thread and it did not include Amazon which I find hard to believe they wouldn't be included. Other way you could read it is the definition of a participating retailer is anyone that has pre-ordering and accepts trade ins.
    09-26-2014 02:50 PM
  2. Jun Watanabe's Avatar
    The IMEI & MAC addresses are from the new Note 4 not the trade in phone.

    This is per the Samsung Terms & Conditions PDF online. https://samsunggalaxypromotions.com/note4/en-us/Rules

    Provide the WIFI MAC address of the pre-ordered device

    Provide the IMEI or HEX MEID of the pre-ordered devi
    ce
    oh wow. this is a revelation! (also, hitting myself for not reading the terms and conditions) this means that as long as the authorized seller is willing to take the trade-in worth $10, we're good to go. there is no way for sammy to check to see if indeed it is a "smartphone". from this, it sounds like sammy is more concerned that $200 is given to only one N4, and no so much that a particular smartphone was traded in...

    my plan now. go preorder from t-mobile store. they will tell me that my prepaid account is not valid for trade-ins. i will get the smart choice $45 plan. trade-in my flip phone that is worth $21 on their site. get my N4 delivered, submit paperwork, get $179 check from sammy, then open another $30 walmart plan using a new sim, port over my number from $45 plan to walmart plan. this will cost me $15 (maybe 30) extra, but it might be the easiest way to take advantage of the promo. if anyone sees a hole in my plan, let me know
    09-26-2014 02:54 PM
  3. layout98's Avatar
    If your read the Samsung promotion terms and conditions, the best buy section looks to be an exact copy from best buy's website, so I'm hoping that you can still purchase a T-Mobile no contact phone and still get a trade in from a 'qualified retailer' but at this time the only place to pre-order a Note 4 is a T-Mobile carrier store. Has anyone seen any other retailer where you can pre-order a T-Mobile note 4?

    For the record I left Amazon of the list earlier because the unlocked note 4 for sale is sold by a third party (delta mobiles) and at $899, you're pretty much giving your rebate to them.
    09-26-2014 03:53 PM
  4. KrinkBusta's Avatar
    I preordered today at BB... Paid $50 and was given a $50 gift card. They'll give me another gift card for $150 when I come to pick up the phone, I'll put both cards to use for the phone purchase and owe them another $50 when I pick it up.

    I went with white but I'm thinking about calling to change to black, not sure!?
    09-26-2014 04:12 PM
  5. tdf2010's Avatar
    I preordered today at BB... Paid $50 and was given a $50 gift card. They'll give me another gift card for $150 when I come to pick up the phone, I'll put both cards to use for the phone purchase and owe them another $50 when I pick it up.

    I went with white but I'm thinking about calling to change to black, not sure!?
    They should be giving you a $200 gift card. Otherwise you'll be out $50 that you paid for, not given.

    Unless I'm misreading the $50 gift card you got today.
    09-26-2014 04:26 PM
  6. sidthekid28's Avatar
    They should be giving you a $200 gift card. Otherwise you'll be out $50 that you paid for, not given.

    Unless I'm misreading the $50 gift card you got today.
    when you preorder and put the 50 bucks down, they give you your pre order receipt AND a 50 dollar BB gift card just in case u end up not wanting the phone or picking the phone up, you dont lose ur deposit... ur just stuck spending the 50 bucks at bb at a later point... so if u put that 50 and the 150 from the gift card he gets when he goes to trade in/pick up thats 200 towards the new phone... i think this is the route i am going to take as well.... if i trade my phone in tomorrow at the same time i pre order my note 4 do u think theyll give me my entire 200 on the spot?
    09-26-2014 04:41 PM
  7. Jun Watanabe's Avatar
    They should be giving you a $200 gift card. Otherwise you'll be out $50 that you paid for, not given.

    Unless I'm misreading the $50 gift card you got today.
    tdf2010 is right... you should get a gift card for 200, not 150. the 50 you paid is a deposit, NOT part of the promo. unless you traded-in a phone worth $50, and that has been "credited" in a form of pre-payment. So essentially you've put down $100 for the N4.
    09-26-2014 05:08 PM
  8. layout98's Avatar
    I just went to Sammy's official Note 4 pre-order page, as of today Sep 26th, the only 'retailers' listed are Best Buy (which didn't qualify for the promo) Amazon and Costco (but the link is not yet live). The Amazon link gives an error but you can go to Amazon and pre-order Verizon Sprint and AT&T Note 4s, so it looks like anyone out there interested the Samsung promo can trade in and pre-order through Amazon. But those looking for T-Mobile are still out of luck.
    09-26-2014 05:38 PM
  9. sidthekid28's Avatar
    tdf2010 is right... you should get a gift card for 200, not 150. the 50 you paid is a deposit, NOT part of the promo. unless you traded-in a phone worth $50, and that has been "credited" in a form of pre-payment. So essentially you've put down $100 for the N4.
    yea you guys are right... i got confused as hell thinking about that 50 bucks... if he only gets a gift card for 150 he def is getting screwed out of 50 bucks there.. im gonna go up there tomorrow and pre order AND trade in a droid 4.. i should leave there MINUS 50 bucks cash and PLUS a 50$ BB gift card AND a 200$ bb gift card correct? i should leave there with 250$ in bb gift cards right?
    09-26-2014 05:42 PM
  10. reesh11's Avatar
    When I asked multiple people at Best Buy they informed me that you CAN use the gift card for an outright purchase. I preordered in store and anxiously await when I can go pick mine up

    Posted via Android Central App
    09-26-2014 05:59 PM
  11. KrinkBusta's Avatar
    when you preorder and put the 50 bucks down, they give you your pre order receipt AND a 50 dollar BB gift card just in case u end up not wanting the phone or picking the phone up, you dont lose ur deposit... ur just stuck spending the 50 bucks at bb at a later point... so if u put that 50 and the 150 from the gift card he gets when he goes to trade in/pick up thats 200 towards the new phone... i think this is the route i am going to take as well.... if i trade my phone in tomorrow at the same time i pre order my note 4 do u think theyll give me my entire 200 on the spot?
    This is the way it was explained to me. Phone is $300, I paid $50 to preorder, I'll be getting $200 off via gift card (they gave me a $50 gift card today and when I pick the phone up I'll get the remaining $150 gift card) and I'll have to pay another $50 to reach the $300 price.
    09-26-2014 06:07 PM
  12. KrinkBusta's Avatar
    I didn't ask about trading my phone in on the spot as I'd be out a phone... Nor did I bring a phone with me as my current phone is sitting in a pile of rice as I got the damn thing soaked last night and the sucker is out of commission... It worked for me once before so fingers crossed, if not I'll be headed back to BB tomorrow to use the BB protection plan... Smh/Fml.
    09-26-2014 06:09 PM
  13. ejcrossl's Avatar
    That sucks that it doesnt' work at BB. I don't want the gift cards, I want the cash.
    09-26-2014 06:31 PM
  14. brentj's Avatar
    This is the way it was explained to me. Phone is $300, I paid $50 to preorder, I'll be getting $200 off via gift card (they gave me a $50 gift card today and when I pick the phone up I'll get the remaining $150 gift card) and I'll have to pay another $50 to reach the $300 price.
    Well, look, when you pre-ordered today, there's no telling whether you will bring in a trade-in or not when your Note 4 comes in. If not, you go to pick up your $300 Note 4, you've already paid $50, so you have to pay another $250. It's not like the $50 you paid goes toward your new phone AND the gift card they gave you today is ANOTHER $50 toward your new phone. You've paid $50 and you'd have to pay $250 more.

    Now, if you go in to the store to pick up your Note 4 with an old phone that you want to trade in, they will give you $200 for that trade-in under the terms of the Best Buy promotion, leaving you with $50 to pay for your new phone.

    Your version gets to the same place (you only have to pay another $50), but the rationale is flawed. Your transaction today did not give you $100 toward the Note 4 (the $50 you paid PLUS a $50 gift card). It only gave you $50 toward the new phone - if you don't trade in an old phone you will have to pay $250 more for the Note 4. But you should indeed get $200 off when you trade in your old one, leaving only $50 to pay.

    I did bring in my old phone today at Best Buy, and I did ask about trading it in now. He said no, that happens when I go to pick up the Note 4, at which time the $200 gift card will be applied to the purchase price of the new phone.
    09-26-2014 06:34 PM
  15. KrinkBusta's Avatar
    ^ I'm trading in an old phone! thus I'll get $150 gift card which I will combine with the $50 gift card I got today... I'll end up paying $100 for the phone.
    09-26-2014 06:45 PM
  16. sidthekid28's Avatar
    Well, look, when you pre-ordered today, there's no telling whether you will bring in a trade-in or not when your Note 4 comes in. If not, you go to pick up your $300 Note 4, you've already paid $50, so you have to pay another $250. It's not like the $50 you paid goes toward your new phone AND the gift card they gave you today is ANOTHER $50 toward your new phone. You've paid $50 and you'd have to pay $250 more.

    Now, if you go in to the store to pick up your Note 4 with an old phone that you want to trade in, they will give you $200 for that trade-in under the terms of the Best Buy promotion, leaving you with $50 to pay for your new phone.

    Your version gets to the same place (you only have to pay another $50), but the rationale is flawed. Your transaction today did not give you $100 toward the Note 4 (the $50 you paid PLUS a $50 gift card). It only gave you $50 toward the new phone - if you don't trade in an old phone you will have to pay $250 more for the Note 4. But you should indeed get $200 off when you trade in your old one, leaving only $50 to pay.

    I did bring in my old phone today at Best Buy, and I did ask about trading it in now. He said no, that happens when I go to pick up the Note 4, at which time the $200 gift card will be applied to the purchase price of the new phone.
    The phone I am trading in is not my current phone... its the one i had before the one i have now... are u saying they literally will not let me trade in a phone at the time i pre order it???
    09-26-2014 06:50 PM
  17. brentj's Avatar
    The phone I am trading in is not my current phone... its the one i had before the one i have now... are u saying they literally will not let me trade in a phone at the time i pre order it???
    They would not let me trade my old (not current) phone in, though I had it with me and pulled it out to show him it worked, etc., and he confirmed it will qualify. He said that gets done when I pick up the Note 4.
    09-26-2014 06:52 PM
  18. sidthekid28's Avatar
    They would not let me trade my old (not current) phone in, though I had it with me and pulled it out to show him it worked, etc., and he confirmed it will qualify. He said that gets done when I pick up the Note 4.
    wow, well good to know at least... i guess i will do the same exact thing... if they tell me it will def qualify tomorrow and then something ends up going wrong at the time of pick up im gonna be so pissed... why does best buy suck so bad with their customer service all around? its so sad that we literally needed a forum to figure all this **** out together...

    i am upgrading my device for verizon as i am eligible for a new 2 year upgrade, i just want to make sure this new note 4 is only gonna end up costing me 100$ total out of pocket...
    09-26-2014 07:02 PM
  19. Kurt R's Avatar
    Ok, so the Samsung promotions page now has clickable links for the Terms and Conditions as well as the “contact us.”

    Thanks to everyone that has taken the time to speak to Best Buy and other Carrier stores, but it still appears that no one knows anything for sure AND the contact us link appears to be managed by third party so I’m not sure they will have a clue either.

    Based on my research and info in the terms and conditions here’s what I know so far:

    This deal is for domestic US customers and retailers (for whatever that’s worth).

    Best Buy has its own trade-in program and rebate offer for the Note 4. The terms and conditions from Sammy specifically say “Participants who pre-order a Galaxy Note 4 at Best Buy are not eligible to participate in this offer.”

    Secondly Best Buy’s website seems to offer up to a $200 gift card for Verizon, AT&T and Sprint only. And it appears the Best Buy wants you to sign up for a contract or renew a contract in order to take advantage of their deal. This is consistent with previous offers. As noted earlier in this thread, some Best Buy locations are saying that you will only get the trade-in value of your phone (so if it’s not worth $200, you may only get what Best Buy deems that it’s worth). I believe that T-Mobile is not included because T-Mobile’s options are 1) you pay for the phone outright OR 2) you pay for the phone over 24 months for the same price (meaning there no carrier subsidy).

    So far, I’ve only been able to find that Carrier Stores and Best Buy are offering pre-orders. AND the carrier stores are only offering trade-ins to post-paid customers (meaning that you have to sign up for a contract in order to get trade-in). The downside here is that T-Mobile will only give you a trade-in if you agree to be a post-paid customer (pre-paid customers are not eligible for a trade-in making this offer useless).

    Although Amazon is listing a pre-order for and unlocked phone, it’s sold by a third party, so I’m still not sure it will qualify, not to mention that it’s already $150 more than the no commitment costs of most carriers.

    In terms of retailers Sammy has not officially stated them for this offer, but in the general press releases for the Note 4, Sammy has listed Target, Walmart, Sam’s Club, Costco, and Radio Shack on their website as placed to get the Note 4, but none of them are offering pre-orders for the Note 4 yet and not many of them have a trade-in program. Walmart DOES have a trade-in program but is not yet pre-selling the Note 4.

    So at this point the big questions are:

    Can anyone confirm the actual retailers for this offer (which was the first post btw)?

    Is Sammy going to pre-sell and unlocked version of this phone BEFORE the offer ends?

    Does anyone know of any retailers that offer a trade-in AND sell T-Mobile no-contract phones? (Not interested in Carrier stores as they will not trade in for prepaid customers.)
    I was told by a representative at Samsung that the only participating carrier is Sprint. I called Verizon and they said they are appealing to be part of the promotion but it hasn't happened yet.

    Posted via Android Central App
    09-26-2014 07:09 PM
  20. TechNut79's Avatar
    Doesn't the promotion page say any carrier? Way to screw this up Samsung.

    Note 2 via Android Central App
    09-26-2014 07:24 PM
  21. droid747's Avatar
    Doesn't the promotion page say any carrier? Way to screw this up Samsung.

    Note 2 via Android Central App
    Chances are it was an uninformed Samsung rep. Most reps are at call centers who don't give care so they say whatever they feel like saying.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    09-26-2014 07:51 PM
  22. TechNut79's Avatar
    So kinda like my recent experience with Verizon. Everyone needs to be on the same page. Or do everything the same and not 3 different things.

    Note 2 via Android Central App
    09-26-2014 08:06 PM
  23. TechNut79's Avatar
    Ok, so am I correct that, if I buy a Note 4 outright from any carrier besides Sprint, I won't get the $200? I don't have an upgrade. What is the easiest way to do this?

    Note 2 via Android Central App
    09-26-2014 08:18 PM
  24. tarpon6's Avatar
    I went to Best Buy today, they had the Note 4 on display. I talked to the Samsung Rep and Best Buy reps, they both said I could trade in an old LG Optimus S, and get $200 to use towards the purchase of the phone. As a matter of fact the Samsung rep said that is the exact phone he is trading. I put in my pre-order.
    09-26-2014 08:31 PM
  25. reesh11's Avatar
    Ok, so am I correct that, if I buy a Note 4 outright from any carrier besides Sprint, I won't get the $200? I don't have an upgrade. What is the easiest way to do this?

    Note 2 via Android Central App
    I was told that I could use it on outright purchases. If not believe I will be throwing a fit

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    09-26-2014 08:32 PM
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