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  1. mty msi's Avatar
    AT&T has an early upgrade after 18 months but you can only do it directly through AT&T not any of the 3rd party resellers.
    09-27-2014 10:00 PM
  2. Jun Watanabe's Avatar
    This is going to make me not get this phone since I can't afford $699 + upgrade fee + taxes and other fees right now. This sucks.

    Note 2 via Android Central App
    May I ask what your carrier and your plan is? I'm curious about this upgrade fee. The 699 is a Verizon price, and I'm guessing you have a grandfathered unlimited data. I know you can't but a subsidized phone if you want to keep your data plan.

    Maybe you can trade in a phone and get a gift card at BB, for example, and maybe submit that paperwork to Sammy? But it is risky.
    09-27-2014 10:09 PM
  3. 67srbell's Avatar
    "Additionally, apparently the $200 gift card is mailed after the return date of 14 days expires."

    So you are saying the $200 BB giftcard can not be used towards the phone purchase?

    There are a number of posts on this thread that state the BB giftcard can be used towards the phone purchase price.

    One thing's for sure, this promotion is ridiculously confusing.
    Yes, there are a lot of confusion and conflicting reports regarding this promotion.

    First, the Best Buy Samsung rep told me that you can use the rebate right away when purchasing the N4 outright, but then the store manager said no, that isn't true (you get a gift card after the return period ends).

    If you think about it, guys, it does make more sense for Best Buy to give us a gift card when the return period expires. This way, they don't have to deal w discounting and dealing with returns at the same time.
    09-27-2014 10:26 PM
  4. mty msi's Avatar
    If that's the case I'm ordering & trading through Amazon and using the Samsung rebate because I don't want a BB giftcard that can't be used towards the Note 4 purchase. I don't get the rationale, if someone were returning a phone purchased with the giftcard it would be on the receipt and BB would have an internal record of it. It's not like they'd be refunding the giftcard amount.
    09-27-2014 10:48 PM
  5. reesh11's Avatar
    If that's the case I'm ordering & trading through Amazon and using the Samsung rebate because I don't want a BB giftcard that can't be used towards the Note 4 purchase. I don't get the rationale, if someone were returning a phone purchased with the giftcard it would be on the receipt and BB would have an internal record of it. It's not like they'd be refunding the giftcard amount.
    +1. When I returned something to Best Buy the coupon amount was subtracted from my refund. I think it will be given immediately as that is what the Samsung promo page seems to imply.

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    09-27-2014 11:24 PM
  6. 67srbell's Avatar
    If that's the case I'm ordering & trading through Amazon and using the Samsung rebate because I don't want a BB giftcard that can't be used towards the Note 4 purchase. I don't get the rationale, if someone were returning a phone purchased with the giftcard it would be on the receipt and BB would have an internal record of it. It's not like they'd be refunding the giftcard amount.
    I'm with you, but best buy won't send out the gift card until they know that you can't return the N4.

    Again, this is what one manager in a Florida Best Buy said today.

    Between Samsung and Best Buy, this may be the most confusing promotion ever. No one has definitive answers on it.
    09-27-2014 11:25 PM
  7. TechNut79's Avatar
    May I ask what your carrier and your plan is? I'm curious about this upgrade fee. The 699 is a Verizon price, and I'm guessing you have a grandfathered unlimited data. I know you can't but a subsidized phone if you want to keep your data plan.

    Maybe you can trade in a phone and get a gift card at BB, for example, and maybe submit that paperwork to Sammy? But it is risky.
    Verizon More Everything plan. I got rid of my unlimited to get my parents their first smartphones. I paid for 4gb and with Verizon's screw ups, I now have 8gb only paying for 4. The upgrade fee or activation fee is what I mean. $30 on Verizon.

    I could do the rebate thing, but no one is giving a straight answer and I don't want to be stuck if something doesn't work out.

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    09-27-2014 11:26 PM
  8. 67srbell's Avatar
    Also, what's the logic with Samsung giving a rebate that is $200 minus the cost of your trade in phone??

    So, if let's say they value your Samsung S4 trade in value at $150, then you only get a $50 rebate check????

    Can someone please explain this to me?

    Edit: Oh wait, I got it. I forgot that the carrier is giving you a trade in credit for the phone and that is why Samsung deducts it.
    09-27-2014 11:28 PM
  9. jlczl's Avatar
    I preordered at a Best Buy when preorders first started. BB employee thought it was "up to $200" and only quoted me a $40 credit for my GNex but I dropped in today and the credit policy has been cleared up a bit. It appears I will get the $200 credit plus I should be getting an additional $100 bill credit from at&t because I'm porting in a line and using the Next plan. $499 after it's all said and done.

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    09-27-2014 11:37 PM
  10. Star-Lord's Avatar
    I'm still confused. If it we do a tradein at a carrier store, we get a check from Samsung for $200-x for trade in @ carrier store?

    If you do it at best buy, you get a BB gift card?
    09-28-2014 10:55 AM
  11. reesh11's Avatar
    I'm still confused. If it we do a tradein at a carrier store, we get a check from Samsung for $200-x for trade in @ carrier store?

    If you do it at best buy, you get a BB gift card?
    That seems to be the jist of it.

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    09-28-2014 10:57 AM
  12. brentj's Avatar
    I'm still confused. If it we do a tradein at a carrier store, we get a check from Samsung for $200-x for trade in @ carrier store?

    If you do it at best buy, you get a BB gift card?
    I was assured when I pre-ordered at BB that the $200 "gift card" would be applied to the Note 4 purchase price when it comes in and I pick it up, which is also when I will do the trade-in. The Samsung promotion web page also says, "Best Buy customers go in-store to redeem instantly." I'd rather have an instant price reduction than have to hassle with the rebate submission and wait under the Samsung promotion.
    https://samsunggalaxypromotions.com/Note4/
    09-28-2014 11:22 AM
  13. mty msi's Avatar
    I'm not sure if this clears anything up for anybody but I just spoke with my local Best Buy and was told the $200 giftcard can be applied to the Note 4 purchase and you keep your grandfathered unlimited data plan on an AT&T subsidized upgrade.
    09-28-2014 11:22 AM
  14. jayochs's Avatar
    to be honest, i think you're gonna have to put up quite the stink here. best buy employees have no idea what's going on, and it sucks because it screws us hard.

    from my experience as a Verizon sales manager 2 years ago, I can tell you that this deal makes no sense for off contract.

    think of it this way:
    back when i worked there, we'll use the galaxy s3 as an example. the phone buying cost for us was 575. we sold on contract for $200, but we would make a nice percentage off selling it on contract from verizon. no matter what, each sale was a profit obviously, because that's how selling upgrades and new lines worked.

    back then, the off contract of the phone was probably $599. so ok, we'd make $25 bucks, whereas lets say on contract we made a hundred and something (i don't remember numbers honestly but it was a lot more than off contract price difference.)

    what was our incentive selling off contract? none. so we marked prices up to like $650 for off contract. nobody ever bought off contract, though.

    so let's say best buy gets in bulk from samsung for, idk, $500 a phone (i have no idea what big corporate pricing bb gets though.) so their price is $700, and giving you $200 off would just make them break even. sure, it wouldn't happen often as most people buy plans, but even a big corporation wouldn't really want to be breaking even or even potentially losing money. the money grab is contract, and they're sure as hell gonna push the contract. when i go into corporate verizon stores now, those reps give me such a hard time buying full price because they're making NO commission on it whatsoever. so yeah. take that story with a grain of salt, but it's why i don't think any of that pricing applies to off contract phones for this deal.
    09-28-2014 12:03 PM
  15. droid747's Avatar
    to be honest, i think you're gonna have to put up quite the stink here. best buy employees have no idea what's going on, and it sucks because it screws us hard.

    from my experience as a Verizon sales manager 2 years ago, I can tell you that this deal makes no sense for off contract.

    think of it this way:
    back when i worked there, we'll use the galaxy s3 as an example. the phone buying cost for us was 575. we sold on contract for $200, but we would make a nice percentage off selling it on contract from verizon. no matter what, each sale was a profit obviously, because that's how selling upgrades and new lines worked.

    back then, the off contract of the phone was probably $599. so ok, we'd make $25 bucks, whereas lets say on contract we made a hundred and something (i don't remember numbers honestly but it was a lot more than off contract price difference.)

    what was our incentive selling off contract? none. so we marked prices up to like $650 for off contract. nobody ever bought off contract, though.

    so let's say best buy gets in bulk from samsung for, idk, $500 a phone (i have no idea what big corporate pricing bb gets though.) so their price is $700, and giving you $200 off would just make them break even. sure, it wouldn't happen often as most people buy plans, but even a big corporation wouldn't really want to be breaking even or even potentially losing money. the money grab is contract, and they're sure as hell gonna push the contract. when i go into corporate verizon stores now, those reps give me such a hard time buying full price because they're making NO commission on it whatsoever. so yeah. take that story with a grain of salt, but it's why i don't think any of that pricing applies to off contract phones for this deal.
    But you fail to realize that bestbuy is not paying this promotion. It is a Samsung promotion so Samsung is reimbursing bestbuy the difference of the 200 promo and the value of the phone traded in so bestbuy is not out that money. Samsung could care less if it is contract or off contract as contracts do not impact Samsung one way or the other. That's why it makes no sense if bestbuy only honors this on contract, but I could see them doing this to try to make more money and only doing it only contracts.

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    09-28-2014 12:08 PM
  16. jayochs's Avatar
    But you fail to realize that bestbuy is not paying this promotion. It is a Samsung promotion so Samsung is reimbursing bestbuy the difference of the 200 promo and the value of the phone traded in so bestbuy is not out that money. Samsung could care less if it is contract or off contract as contracts do not impact Samsung one way or the other. That's why it makes no sense if bestbuy only honors this on contract, but I could see them doing this to try to make more money and only doing it only contracts.

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    we'll see, but i still stand by the fact i'm doubting that BB will take ANY phone for $200 right off the bat on off contract. you think they'd take my worthless droid eris and give me $200 of a Note 4? i highly doubt it.
    09-28-2014 12:14 PM
  17. mty msi's Avatar
    I must be missing something because I don't understand the advantage to buying without a contract considering you need the service to use the phone.

    I use AT&T because they and Verizon have the best coverage in my area. I looked at T Mobile's new plans and they're actually more expensive because you have to pay full price for the phone and the monthly service fee is just slightly less than AT&T. On top of that their coverage isn't nearly as good as AT&T or Verizon.

    What is the advantage of buying the phone at full price without a contract?
    09-28-2014 12:35 PM
  18. mty msi's Avatar
    we'll see, but i still stand by the fact i'm doubting that BB will take ANY phone for $200 right off the bat on off contract. you think they'd take my worthless droid eris and give me $200 of a Note 4? i highly doubt it.
    You can check the value of your trade in on Best Buy's website. It's not BB giving you the $200 it's Samsung, all BB is giving you is the actual trade in value and Samsung is reimbursing BB for the difference which is why you can't claim a Samsung rebate when you use the BB rebate.

    I think the reason Samsung has this rebate program is because Apple is offering up to a $300 rebate if you trade one of the last two models of iPhone in on an iPhone 6. Samsung doesn't want to any more lose market share to Apple than they already are.
    09-28-2014 12:38 PM
  19. Tanooki2's Avatar
    This trade in deal has convinced me to pick up the N4. This may be a dumb question, but I've never done a trade in before. Do you transfer your data to the new phone in store and then do a factory reset before you hand over your old phone? I'll be trading in my N2 for the N4 and the whole handing over my old phone with data on it scares me. Thanks for any guidance.
    09-28-2014 12:46 PM
  20. mty msi's Avatar
    You save your contacts to the SD card then do a factory reset so no personal data is left on the trade in phone. All of your apps from the Play Store will be on the new phone after you enter your Google account on the new phone.
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    09-28-2014 12:52 PM
  21. bspill's Avatar
    I wonder how Verizon Edge Account fits into this. If you preorder from BB and want to go on the Edge program, does the rebate still apply?

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    09-28-2014 01:08 PM
  22. brentj's Avatar
    This trade in deal has convinced me to pick up the N4. This may be a dumb question, but I've never done a trade in before. Do you transfer your data to the new phone in store and then do a factory reset before you hand over your old phone? I'll be trading in my N2 for the N4 and the whole handing over my old phone with data on it scares me. Thanks for any guidance.
    If you have an Android phone, you might want to consider installing an app like My Backup Pro (costs a few bucks). It will back up all your data (contacts, text messages, phone logs, photos, etc.) and your apps, making a reinstall much easier. With Jelly Bean, it used to allow backups to an external SD card (if your phone takes one of those), but that went away with Kit Kat (unless you root your phone, I guess). So if you have Kit Kat or no SD card, you would have to have enough space on your phone to store the backup files, then copy those to your computer, then when you get your new phone copy those backup files from your computer to your new phone, install My Backup Pro, and then restore from the backup.

    At a minimum, you should probably copy any photos you want to save to your computer.

    BB or a carrier store can transfer your contacts from your old phone to your new one, but not much (if anything) more than that. I'm sure they wipe the phones that they take as trade-ins, but if you don't have faith in that, do backups as I and others suggest and then wipe/restore the phone yourself before trading it in.
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    09-28-2014 01:10 PM
  23. jayochs's Avatar
    You can check the value of your trade in on Best Buy's website. It's not BB giving you the $200 it's Samsung, all BB is giving you is the actual trade in value and Samsung is reimbursing BB for the difference which is why you can't claim a Samsung rebate when you use the BB rebate.

    I think the reason Samsung has this rebate program is because Apple is offering up to a $300 rebate if you trade one of the last two models of iPhone in on an iPhone 6. Samsung doesn't want to any more lose market share to Apple than they already are.
    no, theres 2 programs. you're thinking of the one where samsung gives you money. best buy ALSO has it's OWN program where they give you a $200 gift card for "any" phone.

    also, i just got back from my local best buy and talked to the samsung guys. 3 of them are all buying off contract too on verizon, to keep their unlimited data. the main guy in charge said that it's doesn't count towards buying off contract, and obviously he wishes it did so he could get his there. i showed him the updated flyer saying you can't do the samsung promo at best buy anymore because best buy has it's own promo, and he was like "yeah i love how customers come in and tell us this stuff when samsung or best buy don't even give us the info!" haha. either way, i just played around with the note 4 (and helped a girl out who was checking them out, as she was a recent iphone convert and pre-ordered hers! damn, i don't even work there and my old Verizon sales days were kicking in..haha) but i didn't bother pre-ordering. maybe i'll do it at verizon and trade in at verizon to get the samsung $200 deal.
    09-28-2014 02:19 PM
  24. xxx420's Avatar
    This stuff isn't nearly as annoying and confusing of you just take "best buy" out of the equation. I have no best buy so it's just not even an option for me, making the process of dealing with Verizon and samsung for the $200 pretty simple and straightforward. Traded in my old gs3 which Verizon gave me $52 for and samsung will give me the other $148. Easy peasy, plus I still have my current phone, an n5, which I will sell to gazelle for another $200. Easy $400.

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    09-28-2014 03:00 PM
  25. jayochs's Avatar
    This stuff isn't nearly as annoying and confusing of you just take "best buy" out of the equation. I have no best buy so it's just not even an option for me, making the process of dealing with Verizon and samsung for the $200 pretty simple and straightforward. Traded in my old gs3 which Verizon gave me $52 for and samsung will give me the other $148. Easy peasy, plus I still have my current phone, an n5, which I will sell to gazelle for another $200. Easy $400.

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    how are you doing the verizon method? going into a store and handing the phone in physically, or like mailing it in? my S3 has two small cracks, so i wonder if they'd give me anything. i'm taking best buy outta the equation now, which like you said makes it much less complicated. but for reasons i won't get into, i can't create a my verizon account and i have to call in to pre-order or physically goto a store.
    09-28-2014 03:15 PM
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