I went back to BB yesterday to pre-order my phones (see another thread--didn't work out) but I couldn't even get to the Note 4s, as there were already about 5 people surrounding the phone :'( (no one around the iPhone 6 and 6+, so I guess the early adopters are done with the iPhones). But the Samsung Experience guy was so nice while we were trying to figure out the pre-order mess. My toddler is in love with the S-Pen she tried with the N4 last week (bad news for me) and the Samsung guy let her play with the Note 10.1 and S-Pen while we waited. She was in heaven! She's going to freak when the Note 12.2 eventually makes it way to our house later (it's shipping to my mom, and we'll "sneak" it past my DH into the house).