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  1. clatus's Avatar
    AT&T. open GSM global standard network allowing BYOD and SIM freedom vs. closed CDMA network requiring proprietary phones.
    This is actually incorrect. Verizon's LTE phones come factory unlocked. AT&T phones come locked. Verizon LTE phones have GSM/CDMA chipset so it can be used on any network out of the box, including AT&T and T-Mobile. AT&T can't be used on Verizon or Sprint because it does not have CDMA.

    So in reality Verizon is more open than AT&T in that their phones are unlocked and they are GSM ready.
    10-06-2014 12:18 AM
  2. disneymagik's Avatar
    I live in the country and travel to even more isolated parts when visiting relatives and I've never had issues with having no coverage with AT&T. One of the mobile sales guys at Sam's Club tried to explain the main difference between the two and I'm going to try to relay what he said. AT&T & Verizon both obviously have 4Glte coverage. But with AT&T, when you're in an area where LTE isn't available, it'll search for 4G, then 3G, then Edge (2.5G) where other providers don't take the steps back but instead go straight to 3G if LTE isn't available. He wrote it down and it was easier to understand with a visual aid! Lol! My phone does just as he explained.
    I don't know if there's anyone who can explain this better than me.
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    10-06-2014 02:02 AM
  3. sqa4life's Avatar
    We have 4 lines with at&t since 2001 and never had any problem. Their LTE speed is super fast.
    Brandwin likes this.
    10-06-2014 02:29 AM
  4. dpham00's Avatar
    I live in the country and travel to even more isolated parts when visiting relatives and I've never had issues with having no coverage with AT&T. One of the mobile sales guys at Sam's Club tried to explain the main difference between the two and I'm going to try to relay what he said. AT&T & Verizon both obviously have 4Glte coverage. But with AT&T, when you're in an area where LTE isn't available, it'll search for 4G, then 3G, then Edge (2.5G) where other providers don't take the steps back but instead go straight to 3G if LTE isn't available. He wrote it down and it was easier to understand with a visual aid! Lol! My phone does just as he explained.
    I don't know if there's anyone who can explain this better than me.
    Please also keep in mind that Verizon's 4GLTE coverage is larger than AT&T. Please note that this map is only 4GLTE coverage, doesn't include hspa+ or anything else. So while it is true that on att, you will drop to 4g, it is also true that you are more likely to have 4GLTE on Verizon.



    With that said, it also depends on which carrier has coverage where you need it. My coworker has att and has no coverage at my desk, whereas I have strong Verizon 4GLTE coverage.

    Also at my desk, I have access to Verizon's XLTE (AWS 4GLTE) network, at weaker spots in my building, I transition to Verizon's regular 700MHz 4GLTE, not 3g. So Verizon does have two 4GLTE networks overlapping in certain areas, both at my home and work. Of note, other carriers have multiple bands of overlapping lte as well.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3
    Harlemknight likes this.
    10-06-2014 08:00 AM
  5. dpham00's Avatar
    I have 2 lines with the Share everything plan, 4GB. I don't think I can use these methods, can I?

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    Not on your account, but if you have any friends or family with unlimited data then they can do it on their account and then transfer that line to you.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3
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    10-06-2014 08:02 AM
  6. dpham00's Avatar
    This is actually incorrect. Verizon's LTE phones come factory unlocked. AT&T phones come locked. Verizon LTE phones have GSM/CDMA chipset so it can be used on any network out of the box, including AT&T and T-Mobile. AT&T can't be used on Verizon or Sprint because it does not have CDMA.

    So in reality Verizon is more open than AT&T in that their phones are unlocked and they are GSM ready.
    Not all but most. There are exceptions, mostly older phones though. My old Thunderbolt had no gsm radios. My old droid razr maxx had a GSM radio but usa networks were blocked.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3
    10-06-2014 08:10 AM
  7. wase4711's Avatar
    Sorry, but T Mobile is a no go for me. It is horrible in parts of Maryland. No signal on I-83 to PA.
    have you checked recently? they are on a massive, nationwide network improvement campaign, and you might be surprised on where they are now...plus, you can do a free, 7 day test drive to see how their network now works for you..

    do ANYTHING to avoid the twin death stars of Verizon/ATT..
    10-06-2014 08:39 AM
  8. Closingracer's Avatar
    have you considered the Nexus X/6 + AT&T GoPhone Prepaid No Contract?

    ----------------------------------------------Nexus X-------------------------------Note 4
    ----------------------------------------------Prepaid-------------------------------Post Paid
    Phone Cost--------------------------------$350-------------------------------- $299
    Monthly Service
    after all taxes/fees/discounts---------$60 ----------------------------------$100
    Months-------------------------------------24 ------------------------------------24
    Total Service cost
    after X Months--------------------------$1,440 -------------------------------$2,400

    Total Payout After 24 Months----------- $1,790---------------------------$2,699

    Difference after 24 Months------------------ $909
    Nexus is a different phone then note 4 or other phones....

    Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk
    10-06-2014 08:48 AM
  9. Closingracer's Avatar
    Verizon, hands down better coverage then AT&T.
    Hands down? AT&T coverage has been just as good as Verizon. Every carrier has dead spots and just because you live in an apparent dead spot for AT&T doesn't make Verizon "hands down" "better"



    Verizon AND AT&T has the best overall coverage in the united states.

    Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk
    10-06-2014 08:51 AM
  10. Closingracer's Avatar
    This is actually incorrect. Verizon's LTE phones come factory unlocked. AT&T phones come locked. Verizon LTE phones have GSM/CDMA chipset so it can be used on any network out of the box, including AT&T and T-Mobile. AT&T can't be used on Verizon or Sprint because it does not have CDMA.

    So in reality Verizon is more open than AT&T in that their phones are unlocked and they are GSM ready.
    Yay CDMA? Nobody wants that crap specially on sprint. I would pay Samsung apple or whoever I buy a phone from to Rip that radio out of my phone lol.


    GSM > CDMA.... Also you can pretty much unlock any AT&T phone if A) your military B) pay off the phone in full by paying the 24 payments, buying in full or paying it in full early or C) finish the 24 month contract

    Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk
    10-06-2014 08:55 AM
  11. dpham00's Avatar
    Hands down? AT&T coverage has been just as good as Verizon. Every carrier has dead spots and just because you live in an apparent dead spot for AT&T doesn't make Verizon "hands down" "better"



    Verizon AND AT&T has the best overall coverage in the united states.

    Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk
    Verizon has the best coverage, but not by a huge margin . the only win for att was texting, but even there Verizon was a close second.








    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3
    Harlemknight likes this.
    10-06-2014 09:09 AM
  12. wase4711's Avatar
    if you dont travel the country nationwide, and if you dont live in a rural area, don't overpay for Verizon or ATT; choose Tmobile, who is fantastic in metro/suburban areas all over the country, and you will save a ton of money and headaches..their customer service alone is enough of a reason to dump the two death stars...
    10-06-2014 09:13 AM
  13. dpham00's Avatar
    Yay CDMA? Nobody wants that crap specially on sprint. I would pay Samsung apple or whoever I buy a phone from to Rip that radio out of my phone lol.


    GSM > CDMA.... Also you can pretty much unlock any AT&T phone if A) your military B) pay off the phone in full by paying the 24 payments, buying in full or paying it in full early or C) finish the 24 month contract

    Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk
    The issue is that a lot of people want to unlock the phone while on contract (service or device payment plan).

    Also sure if you pay enough then they will build a phone specifically for you without cdma radios. I am guessing that the cost would be very high, but if you feel strongly about it, it can be done.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3
    10-06-2014 09:14 AM
  14. Closingracer's Avatar
    Verizon has the best coverage, but not by a huge margin . the only win for att was texting, but even there Verizon was a close second.


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    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3
    If your looking at numbers it is all basically equal..... Nothing "hands down" about it

    Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk
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    10-06-2014 09:20 AM
  15. dpham00's Avatar
    If your looking at numbers it is all basically equal..... Nothing "hands down" about it

    Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk
    Sure, but current pricing being pretty much equal, imo, Verizon is the better choice for those who want best overall coverage, even if it is close. Of course if Verizon doesn't get good coverage where you need it and att doe, then that is a different story.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3
    10-06-2014 10:00 AM
  16. Gekko's Avatar
    This is actually incorrect. Verizon's LTE phones come factory unlocked. AT&T phones come locked. Verizon LTE phones have GSM/CDMA chipset so it can be used on any network out of the box, including AT&T and T-Mobile. AT&T can't be used on Verizon or Sprint because it does not have CDMA.

    So in reality Verizon is more open than AT&T in that their phones are unlocked and they are GSM ready.
    try to put a Nexus 5 on Verizon's network. case closed.
    10-06-2014 10:02 AM
  17. dpham00's Avatar
    try to put a Nexus 5 on Verizon's network. case closed.
    Honestly, anyone who prioritizes having a Nexus isn't going to be on Verizon's network. But this thread isn't discussing nexus,and isn't even in the nexus forum.

    So back to the topic at hand, It depends on what you are looking for, but if you want factory sim unlocked phones from the carrier then overall Verizon is the best choice. If you don't mind buying a phone that is sim locked then it doesn't really matter.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3
    10-06-2014 10:05 AM
  18. Gekko's Avatar
    Honestly, anyone who prioritizes having a Nexus isn't going to be on Verizon's network. But this thread isn't discussing nexus,and isn't even in the nexus forum.

    So back to the topic at hand, It depends on what you are looking for, but if you want factory sim unlocked phones from the carrier then overall Verizon is the best choice. If you don't mind buying a phone that is sim locked then it doesn't really matter.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3
    my point was Verizon is a closed proprietary network!
    10-06-2014 10:57 AM
  19. dpham00's Avatar
    my point was Verizon is a closed proprietary network!
    CDMA is proprietary, however, since volte is already deployed, you can get both voice and data over LTE on Verizon on any device that supports band 13 lte and volte, should a manufacturer decide to make one.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3
    10-06-2014 11:24 AM
  20. Gekko's Avatar
    CDMA is proprietary, however, since volte is already deployed, you can get both voice and data over LTE on Verizon on any device that supports band 13 lte and volte, should a manufacturer decide to make one.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3
    you don't have the choice and freedom of bringing any unlocked BYOD device. get it?
    10-06-2014 11:38 AM
  21. clatus's Avatar
    you don't have the choice and freedom of bringing any unlocked BYOD device. get it?
    You can use any recent Verizon LTE phone with any sim out of the box because it's unlocked GSM ready.

    AT&T and T-Mobile are locked out of the box and have requirements including grace periods and fully paid off to unlock and won't work on Verizon/Sprint. So you have more freedom with a Verizon phone.
    10-06-2014 11:47 AM
  22. Closingracer's Avatar
    Sure, but current pricing being pretty much equal, imo, Verizon is the better choice for those who want best overall coverage, even if it is close. Of course if Verizon doesn't get good coverage where you need it and att doe, then that is a different story.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 3
    Yeah but it is equal for most people and of the 2 evil corporations I prefer AT&T.

    Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk
    10-06-2014 12:11 PM
  23. Closingracer's Avatar
    You can use any recent Verizon LTE phone with any sim out of the box because it's unlocked GSM ready.

    AT&T and T-Mobile are locked out of the box and have requirements including grace periods and fully paid off to unlock and won't work on Verizon/Sprint. So you have more freedom with a Verizon phone.
    Who cares about more invisible free between carriers in the states.... Yes you could use a Verizon note 4 on t-mobile but no LTE.

    Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk
    10-06-2014 12:13 PM
  24. dpham00's Avatar
    you don't have the choice and freedom of bringing any unlocked BYOD device. get it?
    Sure I understand. If you want to use any unlocked device then Verizon isn't the best option. Keep in mind though that if you want a note 4,the unlocked version might not contain usa lte radios. So sure you have freedom to byod, but there are limitations, depending on the device.

    Sent from my LG G Pad 8.3
    10-06-2014 12:14 PM
  25. Gekko's Avatar
    i like the choice and freedom to bring any device i want. i don't want to live under an evil authoritative totalitarian regime.
    wase4711 likes this.
    10-06-2014 12:29 PM
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