10-10-2014 10:39 PM
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  1. anon8126715's Avatar
    Samsung has been coming out with too many devices that blur the lines and dig into profits from their other products. There's no real innovation from product to product. All they do is throw a faster processor or a new app onto their latest device and repackage it as new.

    Samsung's approach for the past few years has been to offer so many different models as to appear to lead the way in cell phone sales, which is something Apple has caught onto recently with the release of the iPhone 5 and the 5c indifferent colors.

    The market is saturated and cell phone manufacturers have run out of ideas. I personally would be fine with hanging onto my Note 3 if not for the fact that someone has already told me that they want my device.

    I can't wait to be disappointed with how much I've paid to "upgrade" to the Note 4 to realize that I haven't gained $300 worth of more phone. The only saving grace is that my battery life has been diminished lately so I guess that's something.....
    10-08-2014 07:46 AM
  2. goin_nil's Avatar
    RE: jcoltrane123:
    "Pmfji, but first, your last paragraph is in quotes. What exactly are you quoting? That paragraph is not in the report. "


    The quoted paragraph is in the linked article, the 5th paragraph.
    10-08-2014 10:03 AM
  3. Mike Putnik's Avatar
    This is true , about Iphone 6 larger version , samsung price of $700.00 phone that is pretty much useless outside in a daylight is ridiculous, my note 2 has burnin problem , T mobile will replace it with refurb phone , I still have $200.00 to go on my note and i should replace it for someone elses bad phone ?, insurance does not help much ,, they will screw you any which way you com .
    10-08-2014 11:44 AM
  4. gdmin's Avatar
    There are no IPhone 6 or 6 plus phones in stock nor will there be any that hasn't been already pre-ordered for another month. So when the N4 is released on the 17th, for about a month, it will have no Apple competition, just like Apple didn't for a month from Samsung. People are renewing contracts and getting phones every month, so Samsung will still have a lot of potential customers who didn't get a chance or won't get chance to get a new IPhone for a while, but can get a new N4 sooner. So don't expect N4 discounts while competing 6 plus phones are unavailable. In any case, one month of not bringing out a new model won't change the bottom line for the entire previous year for any business. (Do all competing new car models come out at the same time? No, and the earlier released model doesn't necessarily have an advantage. )

    Having said all that, I don't believe Samsung is doing poorly because of not selling enough of its flagship phones. It's not doing well selling its mid tier and lower end phones, which constitute the majority of its sales throughout the world. Most people don't need or can't afford a S5 or a Note 4, or an IPhone 6 plus. (We on this forum are the exception). Again to use a car analogy, GM doesn't make the majority of its money selling Corvettes. It just doesn't sell or make that many, whereas it does sell many more of its lower priced Chevrolets, which is the bulk of its business. Samsung for a couple of years has been losing its bigger "Chevrolet" market share to new Chinese companies who are selling higher quality low end phones for less money. That's what's killing Samsung, not its lack of "Corvette" N4 sales.

    Posted via Android Central App
    It's happening right now in asia (India, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia) xiaomi priced their phone so low where Sammy would've priced them 2x - 3x times Xiaomi price.

    They're cheap but they're also doing good on the warranty.

    And FYI Xiaomi has beat samsung in China link http://news.yahoo.com/xiaomi-beats-s...023036207.html

    So, I agree with your post..

    But still if I will spend more than $500 for a phone I can't think of other than Samsung especially the Note line.

    Sent from my phone with tapatalk
    10-08-2014 12:12 PM
  5. lazerproof's Avatar
    I think Samsung really blew it with the Note 4 release process. They have gotten a lot less aggressive since the S5 came out...I wonder if they sat on their laurels?
    I recently spoke with a Samsung Rep at a BB store and asked him to explain the release schedule of the Note 4. He said The Note line for the most part comes out in October and the S phones come out in the Spring. He was not able to explain the logic as to why. It's going to take Samsung more than a release schedule to turn themselves around.
    10-08-2014 01:11 PM
  6. lazerproof's Avatar

    I can't wait to be disappointed with how much I've paid to "upgrade" to the Note 4 to realize that I haven't gained $300 worth of more phone. The only saving grace is that my battery life has been diminished lately so I guess that's something.....
    You can replace the battery on your phone for much cheaper than $300.00
    10-08-2014 01:15 PM
  7. clatus's Avatar
    good news for china. same news for us.

    xiaomi, samsung, doesnt matter to me. In the end it's all lining the pockets and creating jobs in a country that isn't the US.
    10-08-2014 01:18 PM
  8. lazerproof's Avatar
    Samsung also should have had N4's in all the carrier stores, not just BB and both should have been sooner. They let Apple steal a lot of thunder and sales by handling the N4 intro they way they did. Think of all the buyers that went to the carrier stores which had the new iPhones and no N4 to compare.
    I don't think many carriers now a days want to have phones on display that they can't sell, and Samsung does NOT have control over carriers like Apple does.
    10-08-2014 01:28 PM
  9. anon8126715's Avatar
    You can replace the battery on your phone for much cheaper than $300.00
    I think you missed my sarcasm....

    I am replacing my Note 3 because someone owes me their upgrade and so they're desperately wanting to get a phone to replace their current phone (even though it's still a decent LG G2). I would just as well let them keep their upgrade but that would mean that I would have to wait another year until I can get an upgrade. Considering they lost their phone because of their carelessness, I don't think I should be out an upgrade.

    The only benefit I see from me going from the note 3 to the note 4 is that I'll have a newer battery. I don't think it'll be the upgrade that it was in going from an HTC Rezound to the Note 3.
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    10-08-2014 06:49 PM
  10. Arnold Meza's Avatar
    100% agree..
    10-08-2014 10:56 PM
  11. beh's Avatar
    Samsung is indeed a large conglomerate. They, as well as LG, make the best cloths wasers, dryers and refrigerators on the market today. And they can afford to make and sell limited edition "concept devices" the the Note Edge. As well a screens for Apple ;^) and soon Apple's A9 chips. As well as all the other products mentioned above.
    10-08-2014 11:32 PM
  12. Almeuit's Avatar
    Samsung is indeed a large conglomerate. They, as well as LG, make the best cloths wasers, dryers and refrigerators on the market today. And they can afford to make and sell limited edition "concept devices" the the Note Edge. As well a screens for Apple ;^) and soon Apple's A9 chips. As well as all the other products mentioned above.
    I don't know about "best" in all those categories... I do like LG for my TVs but I use Maytag for my Washer/Dryers . Come to think of it.... my refrigerator is a Whirlpool.
    10-09-2014 10:16 AM
  13. clevin's Avatar
    the company is HUGE, so I don't worry a bit of its long term prospect.

    in the meantime, these things are selling for way too much, any price drop is good for consumers.
    Andy847 likes this.
    10-09-2014 11:25 AM
  14. prakash99's Avatar
    Even early release won't safe it. IPhone big screen for the first time in history is simply too hard to ignore. There are too many apple fans out there plus new comers & converters.

    Posted via Note 3
    as for newcomers and converters ...at least on Twitter, I see more tweets from people converting from iPhone to Galaxy Note 4 than those going the other way.
    Katrina White1 likes this.
    10-09-2014 04:20 PM
  15. fishmd's Avatar
    as for newcomers and converters ...at least on Twitter, I see more tweets from people converting from iPhone to Galaxy Note 4 than those going the other way.
    You are just looking in the wrong places. Lol. Lots going both ways, just like last year. I am one of them. Going from Note 3 to my IPhone 6+. At least for now. Samsung waited too long to release the Note 4.
    10-10-2014 11:30 AM
  16. CehowardNote7's Avatar
    I think you missed my sarcasm....

    I am replacing my Note 3 because someone owes me their upgrade and so they're desperately wanting to get a phone to replace their current phone (even though it's still a decent LG G2). I would just as well let them keep their upgrade but that would mean that I would have to wait another year until I can get an upgrade. Considering they lost their phone because of their carelessness, I don't think I should be out an upgrade.

    The only benefit I see from me going from the note 3 to the note 4 is that I'll have a newer battery. I don't think it'll be the upgrade that it was in going from an HTC Rezound to the Note 3.
    I agree with you, my Note 3 has been flawless and it is still too much phone for me. Why am I getting the Note 4? Desire. Pure and simple.

    The point of the matter is, nobody is twisting our arms to get the Note 4. The performance jump from the Note 2 to the Note 4 is about 30 to 35 percent. However, from the Note 3 to the Note 4, IMO, just about 8 to 10 percent if that much. BTW, my Note 3 is in new condition, I refuse to take that $250 trade in, will try to sell it for $350 or more.

    Again, nobody twisting our arms..
    JimSmith94 likes this.
    10-10-2014 11:40 AM
  17. bassplayrguy's Avatar
    Even early release won't safe it. IPhone big screen for the first time in history is simply too hard to ignore. There are too many apple fans out there plus new comers & converters.

    Posted via Note 3
    Still junk. But the fanboys crawl out of the woodwork over years old technology.
    10-10-2014 12:30 PM
  18. anon8126715's Avatar
    I agree with you, my Note 3 has been flawless and it is still too much phone for me. Why am I getting the Note 4? Desire. Pure and simple.

    The point of the matter is, nobody is twisting our arms to get the Note 4. The performance jump from the Note 2 to the Note 4 is about 30 to 35 percent. However, from the Note 3 to the Note 4, IMO, just about 8 to 10 percent if that much. BTW, my Note 3 is in new condition, I refuse to take that $250 trade in, will try to sell it for $350 or more.

    Again, nobody twisting our arms..
    This pretty much sums up my thoughts, although I do admit that I'm looking forward to see the higher definition on a bit larger screen (as compared to the LG G3) to see if there's much of a difference. Oh and the GPS on my Note 3 has always been problematic so I'm hoping that the Note 4 has a much better GPS unit. Also, my HTC did have a much better 4G radio, but I've heard not to expect much from the Note 4's radio compared to the Note 3's.
    10-10-2014 10:39 PM
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