11-09-2014 08:19 AM
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  1. stan23's Avatar
    Not sure if it was a good move putting a metal frame around the perimeter. I got out of the car, took my phone out of the dash and it barely tapped the side of the door.

    It was so gentle that I didn't even think twice about it.

    Took a good look at the side of the phone and there is a dent right on the metal.

    Darn
    10-17-2014 11:07 PM
  2. msndrstood's Avatar
    No case? 😢

    via The Note 4
    10-17-2014 11:08 PM
  3. bokehsan's Avatar
    There wouldn't have been a dent if a case was used.
    CehowardNote7 and Yk Chin like this.
    10-17-2014 11:12 PM
  4. vinnyvin's Avatar
    Use a case. Simple as that. Metal was a great idea.

    Posted via Android Central App
    10-17-2014 11:13 PM
  5. nugj's Avatar
    This is just a guess on my part but that metal frame is probably very rigid but only on its long axis. Hit is perpendicular to its long axis and against the flat and it is probably not very rigid. Painful way to find it out but it is sounding like a case is advisable.
    Yk Chin likes this.
    10-17-2014 11:16 PM
  6. stan23's Avatar
    I usually do use a case, but the local ATT store didn't have one in stock and the one I ordered from Amazon won't get here for a few days. I'm usually very gentle careful on a new phone - no joke, I upgrade every 6 months or so. Out of all the phones I had, the only ones that were very fragile were this and the M8.
    msndrstood likes this.
    10-17-2014 11:16 PM
  7. Almeuit's Avatar
    That sucks! Unfortunately this can happen without a case.. Going naked means you have to completely baby it. I had to do it with my Note 3 and I've been doing it with my Note 4... Got to keep it perfect .
    CehowardNote7 likes this.
    10-17-2014 11:21 PM
  8. msndrstood's Avatar
    I preorder cases, otherwise, the phone doesn't leave the house or the leather pouch it's in at home. I clutch it with a death grip. 😨

    via The Note 4
    Dru419 likes this.
    10-17-2014 11:27 PM
  9. CehowardNote7's Avatar
    I had a case and temp glass a week before my Note 4 got here. Since then I have replaced the case and the temp screen with a better case and screen. As soon as I cut the seal on the box, a temp glass screen went on, and a bumper case!! IMO, this phone is too expensive and good looking to not have it in a case. IMO, going naked has big risk. I have dropped my several times, yes, my Note 4, but it was DOUBLE CASED. Didn't even bothered to look at it!!

    Fell bad for the OP, but almost all the advice around here would be to have it in a case. Hope everything is okay with the phone, and you can cover the dent with a case, or if possible, and I do mean if possible, return it!! Nobody has a Note 4 over 5 days old!!!
    10-17-2014 11:39 PM
  10. guitarskoota's Avatar
    Sounds like that note 4 needs to be removed from your custody and put in the custody of someone who will take care of that thing!
    CehowardNote7 and Dru419 like this.
    10-18-2014 12:04 AM
  11. nugj's Avatar
    I wanted to thank the OP for posting his experience. His event did prompt me to think about the likelihood of that metal piece being pretty vulnerable to hits perpendicular to its long axis. But I would not have given it a thought probably without his coming here and telling us what happened. While I already had a case for it on the way, I was still seriously considering the possibility of going just with a screen protector. That is out the window now and the case that is on the way will be employed.
    CehowardNote7 and belodion like this.
    10-18-2014 12:19 AM
  12. stan23's Avatar
    I'm kind of OCD, and any damage really bugs me. I had my Note 3 for 8 months, took it to many trips with and without case and not a single scratch.

    I can't return/exchange it because the damage was done by me, and that would not be right. I have a case coming in tomorrow and hopefully it will cover up the dent.
    swade8, ilgal and Dru419 like this.
    10-18-2014 01:24 PM
  13. beh's Avatar
    Not sure if it was a good move putting a metal frame around the perimeter. I got out of the car, took my phone out of the dash and it barely tapped the side of the door.

    It was so gentle that I didn't even think twice about it.

    Took a good look at the side of the phone and there is a dent right on the metal.

    Darn
    With the Note 4 frame being Magnesium Aluminum alloy I find it a stretch to say it dented with a "gentle" contact with the car door frame. I believe we need to now have a series of YouTube videos showing the "gentle tapping" failure of a Samsung product. A whole new topic of manufacturer bashing. God I love this site
    Dru419 likes this.
    10-18-2014 01:32 PM
  14. stackberry369's Avatar
    Sounds like that note 4 needs to be removed from your custody and put in the custody of someone who will take care of that thing!
    And pay $200/month in phone support lol

    Posted via the Galaxy Note 4
    belodion and dallasfever like this.
    10-18-2014 02:19 PM
  15. lazerproof's Avatar
    Not sure if it was a good move putting a metal frame around the perimeter. I got out of the car, took my phone out of the dash and it barely tapped the side of the door.

    It was so gentle that I didn't even think twice about it.

    Took a good look at the side of the phone and there is a dent right on the metal.

    Darn
    I am sure the same or worse would have happened if you did it to an iPhone.

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    10-18-2014 02:21 PM
  16. nugj's Avatar
    I would actually think that thin alo back cover of the new iPhone is likely very vulnerable to damage. I would think it much more susceptible than the N4 is to damage. But by the same token it does not surprise me that a 90 degree shot into that N4 metal frame can be damaging. None of these metals at their thickness are immune to a hit in exactly the direction they are weakest. I am sure there are structural details on the inner surface of that frame that help its integrity along its long axis which is why it was such a good idea to integrate it by Sammy. But it won't help it if you hit it just right in the direction it is weakest especially if the item hitting the N4 is something like a car door edge or even worse a car door corner. It won't take much of a hit in that instance to probably leave a mark.

    At the end of the day it is virtually impossible for these manufacturers to make it invulnerable to every hit from every direction. However there is a big dif between aesthetic damage and structural damage that disables your phone. One is a tough break and tough to take....the other is a royal pain in the behind.
    10-18-2014 02:35 PM
  17. felloffthetruck's Avatar
    Give us a picture.
    Willn and dallasfever like this.
    10-18-2014 03:13 PM
  18. Emperor's Avatar
    I concur 100% I don't like using a case because it hides the beauty and executive feel of the phone. IMO its the same as putting slip covers on new furniture.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    10-18-2014 03:21 PM
  19. nugj's Avatar
    As the newly posted vid shows, this is such a thin phone that bulking it up too much would be tough to swallow...so is damaging it though as dents in phones are not attractive either. IMO, but especially after seeing that vid, I won't be able to tolerate something like a defender...might even struggle with something like the UAG one piece. I had purchased the Tough Armour in Slate because the deal was hard to pass up and I figured I would use it till I found something I really wanted. Still on the way to me. That might end up being the case I use long term as it might just be enough protection without adding tons of bulk. Plus they designed it neat...like the N4 itself. Everything on that case seems to have a purpose and there is no added anything anywhere. It looks like it will take a screen protector as others have already applied one using that case.
    10-18-2014 03:36 PM
  20. curney's Avatar
    I for one dont want to put a case on it. First Samsung phone I have ever had that looks great. I have insurance that I have never used in 5 years so I think I am going to do a glass screen protector and go naked. Maybe ill just use a case when im working.
    10-18-2014 03:57 PM
  21. dj2big's Avatar
    I like driving my $60,000 car whenever in the rain or snow I earned it to buy it I earned to to use it however I want I don't understand the concept of cases on a beautiful piece of equipment just like I don't understand the guy who worked his whole life to buy that special car to have sit in the garage so he dies and someone else enjoys it for him makes no sense
    It's case less for me
    Denisej likes this.
    10-18-2014 04:02 PM
  22. 1812dave's Avatar
    Samsung has been using plastic for a very good reason. IMO, they used metal because of all the detractors out there claiming that plastic is inferior. BS. High impact plastic (polycarbonate, for example) can absorb impacts without remaining deformed. sorry your phone got damaged!
    10-18-2014 04:06 PM
  23. jlczl's Avatar
    I like driving my $60,000 car whenever in the rain or snow I earned it to buy it I earned to to use it however I want I don't understand the concept of cases on a beautiful piece of equipment just like I don't understand the guy who worked his whole life to buy that special car to have sit in the garage so he dies and someone else enjoys it for him makes no sense
    It's case less for me
    I agree. I wouldn't garage my exotic car (if I had one) and never use it. However I wouldn't drive my exotic car in ice or snow either. I'd have it garaged and use it on good weather days only.

    Likewise, I'll case up my beautiful Note 4 when the conditions warrant it and I'll go without the case when they don't.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    10-18-2014 05:14 PM
  24. nugj's Avatar
    I think the metal ring will give them some additional structural integrity but only in one plane. that one plane happens to be the one at risk when you pocket the phone. Clearly Samsung has done a better job in that regard than Apple as the Apple all alum case is far more prone to damage. The sammy housing probably would have been more structurally sound than the Apple eve without the ring.

    I would be more inclined to think Sammy was bowing to the marketplace if they left the metal ring its natural color which they didn't do. It is the same color as the rest of the housing. If anything, they are hiding it.
    10-18-2014 05:15 PM
  25. dj2big's Avatar
    I agree. I wouldn't garage my exotic car (if I had one) and never use it. However I wouldn't drive my exotic car in ice or snow either. I'd have it garaged and use it on good weather days only.

    Likewise, I'll case up my beautiful Note 4 when the conditions warrant it and I'll go without the case when they don't.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Until you have had the pleasure of driving a car and not care what happens to it in any weather only then you are free...

    It's replaceable like anything else materialistic and no matter how much you take care of it it will be worthless at some point so you might as well enjoy it

    It's a phone
    If your whole life revolves protecting material things that's crazy
    People buy nice clothes never wear them lol that's silly
    People buy cars and never drive them
    People save money and never treat themselves

    Why not live in a bubble
    OK protect your phone I don't care but don't be upset over worthless things getting scratched bent makes no sense

    If people only put this much thought into relationships and family they would protect what really matters in life their heart and soul by just putting the phone down
    10-18-2014 05:43 PM
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