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  1. LaTuFu's Avatar
    Correct. No matter when I do it, I don't have any lag.

    I am stock US Cellular. They don't load up with a lot of bloat, and what is loaded is very easily disabled.

    I am running Nova prime, S-Voice disabled, Nova settings to lightning fast and dev option animations at 0.
    11-18-2014 10:13 AM
  2. LaTuFu's Avatar
    Having said all that, interestingly enough the only place I've been able to see consistent lag is in the TW dialer screen. It takes a second for the contacts to overlay the phone numbers in the recent calls list.

    Other than that, I have not been able to find any other places.
    11-18-2014 10:14 AM
  3. exempli_gratia's Avatar
    Correct. No matter when I do it, I don't have any lag.

    I am stock US Cellular. They don't load up with a lot of bloat, and what is loaded is very easily disabled.

    I am running Nova prime, S-Voice disabled, Nova settings to lightning fast and dev option animations at 0.
    How come the animations at 0?

    I did notice the animations on the Resents last seem particularly long (smooth, so I think as intended, just unnecessarily skew).

    It's the one animation seeing I reduced. U have it at 0.5, but the others seem fine at 1.0).

    I wonder if that's a taste on Lollipop (reviewers have said the animations are smooth but to heavy). Samsung clearly tried to get a jump on the Lollipop look and feel with the tabbed list.

    Or, if Samsung knew there was potential for laziness there, and tried to obfuscate it with a long animation. If so, it only made it worse.
    11-18-2014 12:49 PM
  4. exempli_gratia's Avatar
    Having said all that, interestingly enough the only place I've been able to see consistent lag is in the TW dialer screen. It takes a second for the contacts to overlay the phone numbers in the recent calls list.
    Do you mean for dialer app to start up, or, once up (in default Keypad mode), to switch to Contacts tab? I are some delay on startup, if was not loaded recently. But, switching to Contacts seems quite quick. Will try as couple times more in the future to compare.

    Note, I have ~100 contacts, most with pretty basic info, very few with customer images. I can certainly see a longer list or lots of custom images tripping out up.
    11-18-2014 12:56 PM
  5. LaTuFu's Avatar
    Do you mean for dialer app to start up, or, once up (in default Keypad mode), to switch to Contacts tab? I are some delay on startup, if was not loaded recently. But, switching to Contacts seems quite quick. Will try as couple times more in the future to compare.

    Note, I have ~100 contacts, most with pretty basic info, very few with customer images. I can certainly see a longer list or lots of custom images tripping out up.
    When I press the dialer icon, the default screen upon opening is the recent calls and messages screen. Probably due to the fact that I have animations set to 0, the list opens immediately. But the contacts associated with the numbers don't overlay the numbers for 0.5-1.0 seconds.

    I don't really consider it as lag I guess. The app opens immediately with no stutter. The contacts just take a split second to overlay after that.

    I didn't have the issue on my S4, but I didn't have animations turned off on that phone.
    11-18-2014 01:04 PM
  6. Trigati's Avatar
    Intrigued... may be, but would be very surprising...

    So when you press the Recent Apps button (capasitive key left of home button), it's consistently instant (~0.25 seconds, not 1+)? I mean throughout the day (repeating one after another caches the list so becomes deceptively fast)? Would be curious. Thanks.

    If so, what carrier? Mine is stock Verizon.
    Yeah, mine is consistently instant. I've never had any real wait on it, especially longer than a second. I don't use Touch Wiz (Nova Prime). I also turned off S-Voice with the double click home button.

    Sprint (uninstalled/turned off most Sprint boatware), made in Vietnam.
    11-18-2014 08:00 PM
  7. monsieurms's Avatar
    BTW, I have to report that some lag developed, contrary to my initial report. When I first got it, it seemed fine. I guess I loaded it up with lots of STUFF as time went on. But I turned off all animations in Developer Options. Put everything back to out-of-the-box quick. Problem solved. Lightning fast.
    11-20-2014 06:35 PM
  8. varunaX's Avatar
    i ignored this thread for a long time cause i didnt notice any lag, but after getting hands on with a galaxy S5, i now know what you guys are talking about with the Recent Apps lag. On the S5, pressing the Recent Apps button is instantaneous, scrolling through the apps is instantaneous and selecting any app is instantaneous. This is definitely not the case on the Note 4 as you guys are are all reporting. Im actually disappointed to see this.
    11-21-2014 11:11 AM
  9. dkwon's Avatar
    it's not just you, the note 4 lags. i've been using the device over this past week and can say without a doubt that touchwiz still suffers from lag. everyone claiming that it doesnt have any lag likely has little to no experience with a truly lag free phone, or is incapable of noticing. the same logic applies to those saying they can't tell a difference between a 1080p tv vs 720p tv at normal distances. most people can't tell, but there are definitely a lot who can. the note 4 is still fast if you actually consider the time it takes to perform tasks, but it does so with random stutters and hiccups along the way. i've been using a nexus 5 and moto x (2013) for the past year. While the note 4 is faster in terms of speed, the nexus/moto x on kitkat/lollipop performs everything MUCH smoother. The only time i would get any type of stutter from the nexus or moto x was if i were using the phone while installing apps within the background.

    every phone seems to have some owners ready to jump up to defend their phone as if their own children were being insulted. please don't take this the wrong way. it's just my objective observation. I still love the note 4 for its beautiful display (amongst other great features) and will likely keep it for a while.

    edit: forgot to mention that i'm using nova launcher, and also adjusted animation speeds to 0.5 within developer options. the lag is still there. im going to try switching to ART runtime, hopefully it helps.
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    11-21-2014 04:23 PM
  10. Duncan1982's Avatar
    it's not just you, the note 4 lags. i've been using the device over this past week and can say without a doubt that touchwiz still suffers from lag. everyone claiming that it doesnt have any lag likely has little to no experience with a truly lag free phone, or is incapable of noticing. the same logic applies to those saying they can't tell a difference between a 1080p tv vs 720p tv at normal distances. most people can't tell, but there are definitely a lot who can. the note 4 is still fast if you actually consider the time it takes to perform tasks, but it does so with random stutters and hiccups along the way. i've been using a nexus 5 and moto x (2013) for the past year. While the note 4 is faster in terms of speed, the nexus/moto x on kitkat/lollipop performs everything MUCH smoother. The only time i would get any type of stutter from the nexus or moto x was if i were using the phone while installing apps within the background.

    every phone seems to have some owners ready to jump up to defend their phone as if their own children were being insulted. please don't take this the wrong way. it's just my objective observation. I still love the note 4 for its beautiful display (amongst other great features) and will likely keep it for a while.

    edit: forgot to mention that i'm using nova launcher, and also adjusted animation speeds to 0.5 within developer options. the lag is still there. im going to try switching to ART runtime, hopefully it helps.
    Nothing wrong with this and yes some jump to defend rather to quickly and sometimes take it rather personally.

    In my experience the only lag I have had is here at AC if there is loads of posts containing pictures it tends to stutter (not sure if this is the app itself or said lag) oh and the Recents is not as quick as it should be. I'm rooted and have a custom ROM & Kernel and whilst its improved its still there slightly.

    But as you said overall the Note 4 is a powerhouse and a great device but it should with the specs be much smoother.

    But not all pure Android is flawless either, I cast my mind back to the Nexus 5 and my Note 3 (Rooted with X-Note ROM) and the Note 3 was in my experience faster and smoother, but it wasn't a fair test and can't remember what I had the animations set at on each.

    But there will be Software issues and like always TW plays a big part in the stutters. If only Samsung would lighten up right lol.

    They have sort of to an extent with the Note 4 but further tweaks are required.

    I'm more than happy with the speed and performance though and the very slight delay now with recents I can live with.

    Its note perfect but very close and in my opinion all devices will remain as such from now until doomsday as perfect is just in the eye or hand of the beholder lol

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    11-21-2014 04:55 PM
  11. Trigati's Avatar
    it's not just you, the note 4 lags. i've been using the device over this past week and can say without a doubt that touchwiz still suffers from lag. everyone claiming that it doesnt have any lag likely has little to no experience with a truly lag free phone, or is incapable of noticing. the same logic applies to those saying they can't tell a difference between a 1080p tv vs 720p tv at normal distances. most people can't tell, but there are definitely a lot who can. the note 4 is still fast if you actually consider the time it takes to perform tasks, but it does so with random stutters and hiccups along the way. i've been using a nexus 5 and moto x (2013) for the past year. While the note 4 is faster in terms of speed, the nexus/moto x on kitkat/lollipop performs everything MUCH smoother. The only time i would get any type of stutter from the nexus or moto x was if i were using the phone while installing apps within the background.

    every phone seems to have some owners ready to jump up to defend their phone as if their own children were being insulted. please don't take this the wrong way. it's just my objective observation. I still love the note 4 for its beautiful display (amongst other great features) and will likely keep it for a while.

    edit: forgot to mention that i'm using nova launcher, and also adjusted animation speeds to 0.5 within developer options. the lag is still there. im going to try switching to ART runtime, hopefully it helps.
    Uh, no, and thanks for the group attack. Note 4s on certain carriers definitely do lag, but not everybody's Note 4 lags. I most certainly know what lag is, thank you very much, and fortunately, my Note 4 on Sprint, with carrier bloat uninstalled/disabled and using Nova, does not lag. Again, I'm going to put down that the lag issues some note 4s have are based on the specific carrier, the manufacturing location, or a combination of both.
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    11-21-2014 06:37 PM
  12. jnow007's Avatar
    Do the Samsung tablets such as 8.4 pro lag as much as the Note 4 or is it much faster? I tried out the tablets at the store and never noticed any lag and it uses the same Touchwhiz as the Note 4 so I'm assuming it should be the same? I sort of ordered the Note 4 for store pick up and this talk of lagging has made me nervous. I didn't get to try the Note 4 in store though. It's not too late for me to change my mind...

    Is the lag time the same or worse than the Samsung tablets?
    11-28-2014 03:43 AM
  13. LaTuFu's Avatar
    it's not just you, the note 4 lags. i've been using the device over this past week and can say without a doubt that touchwiz still suffers from lag. everyone claiming that it doesnt have any lag likely has little to no experience with a truly lag free phone, or is incapable of noticing...
    Sorry. Just because you are experiencing this doesn't mean those of us who aren't "have no experience with a lag free device or are incapable of noticing."

    Despite what you want to believe, there are some of us out there that do not experience any lag like you are describing.

    This phone is certainly not perfect, but I am not experiencing the issues you describe with yours.
    11-28-2014 12:59 PM
  14. sailador's Avatar
    I have the note 4 and it lags noticeably. It is just the nature of TouchWiz.
    11-28-2014 01:06 PM
  15. jnow007's Avatar
    I was watching a Note 4 review on Youtube when it started lagging during the video. I can't post links yet since I am new but if you want to see the lag yourself go to Youtube and search for "Flossy Carter Samsung Note 4"....

    Go to 14:15 He opens up email from the side bar; it has like half a second lag but nothing too bad... Then opens calendar to show us how to multitask and it lags for like 5 seconds at least! Opens something else and the whole thing as freezes! Has to end task and close all apps and try again.... and they all open fine the second time.

    Later he says he recommends taking out the batter for a sec and putting it back in every morning to reset and disabling S-voice and a bunch of other things.....
    11-28-2014 02:55 PM
  16. only foryou's Avatar
    When you feel lady try to clear your ram on your phone.. Use clean master or all in one app to do this job... They will definitely boost the speed..

    Posted via the Android Central App
    11-28-2014 03:50 PM
  17. varunaX's Avatar
    I have the note 4 and it lags noticeably. It is just the nature of TouchWiz.
    Switching to ART fixed the recent app lag for me
    11-29-2014 09:49 AM
  18. dtny1hk2's Avatar
    My family just for a note 4, s5 and a tab pro 8.4. Just scrolling through facebook just trying to load up many recent newsfeed posts, both the s5 and tab pro are lightning fast. I am surprised that the note 4, while some claim it is the best phone out there now, is lagging in app scrolling (internet, cnbc news app, facebook,... etc) I almost returned it for a same price iphone 6, until I changed the animation parameter to 0.5. I would rather see a phone to work well right out-of-the-box. I now am not sure if there is anything wrong with my phone, especially because the box was a little broken when the sales rep first took it out. And he insisted it was new and that's the last one they had. I read another post saying there may be bad batches because some people just found their note 4 perfect with no lag. I am still wondering if I should try to use this reason to exchange for another definitely new one. But I am afraid that I would end up getting one that has other problems that other people have experienced. sigh.
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    12-07-2014 10:15 PM
  19. Cincybearcatfan's Avatar
    The phone lags all the time. Hit a contact to call someone. Lag. Click to open an app. Lag. It lags BADLY and I'm not sure why. Touch the recent apps button and select a different app, lag. It lags so long that it's almost necessary to restart the phone. Thought I was the only one.
    12-07-2014 10:32 PM
  20. Cincybearcatfan's Avatar
    Do you notice any battery drain issues after switching to ART? I tried it a couple of times with my Maxx and the battery life issues it caused were awful.
    12-07-2014 10:33 PM
  21. swade8's Avatar
    I'm actually curious now if the lag has anything to do with how many apps one may have on their phone?

    I have 344 installed apps plus a 64gb SD card installed with some apps moved to it. Like almost all my games.

    Will this play a factor to lag?


    Sent from The One and Only, Amazing---> Note 4<---
    12-07-2014 10:42 PM
  22. jerseygirl's Avatar
    I'm going to wipe mine, reload a few less apps and see what happens. There's no reason for YouTube to stutter when I'm sitting right next to my router! I believe that something is not right with my phone after reading how well everyone else's is working. I've had mine since day one and itv was never super fast...but now its just seeming buggy.
    12-08-2014 06:10 AM
  23. iamdld's Avatar
    Switching to ART fixed the recent app lag for me
    Does the phone still re-compile apps on boot when using ART?
    12-08-2014 08:04 AM
  24. Cincybearcatfan's Avatar
    It did for me last night. That was STRANGE. When I made the switch on my Maxx it only did that after the initial boot after making the change. Last night. It did it and recompiled 400+ apps. Then when it finished, I rebooted and it did it for 92 apps. Then I rebooted and it did it again for 92 apps. Why does it do that?
    12-08-2014 08:32 AM
  25. LaTuFu's Avatar
    The phone lags all the time. Hit a contact to call someone. Lag. Click to open an app. Lag. It lags BADLY and I'm not sure why. Touch the recent apps button and select a different app, lag. It lags so long that it's almost necessary to restart the phone. Thought I was the only one.
    As discussed on another forum, you either have a defective device, or you have app conflicts on your phone. Considering you have 400+ apps installed, there is a solid chance it is app conflict.
    12-08-2014 08:34 AM
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