10-30-2014 06:27 PM
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  1. HothTron's Avatar
    Granted the Nexus 6 is a good sized screen but Nexus tends to have cruddy camera's and T-Mobile doesnt' support Nexus on their networks until just recently, so thats not an option either.
    10-29-2014 04:49 PM
  2. Almeuit's Avatar
    Granted the Nexus 6 is a good sized screen but Nexus tends to have cruddy camera's and T-Mobile doesnt' support Nexus on their networks until just recently, so thats not an option either.
    They did say it'll get wifi calling in January I believe.
    10-29-2014 04:56 PM
  3. frooglepoopillion's Avatar
    They did say it'll get wifi calling in January I believe.
    I believe Wifi calling is built into Lollipop and iOS8 so it should be supported regardless, at least on the Nexus and iOS8 phones.

    I had my Nexus 4 on Tmobile for a few months 2 years ago and it was fully supported as well as my friend's Nexus 5 so I'm not sure why you think they don't support it?
    10-29-2014 05:00 PM
  4. LegalAmerican's Avatar

    To be perfectly honest I think the iPhone 6/6+ are the most innovative phones in this cycle so far. I'm excited to see what HTC has up their sleeves though.
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    I legitimately have to ask what in the He** makes you think the iPhone 6 and 6+ are the most innovative in this years crop? I ask that not to start a flame war of any kind, or to be asking for trouble. I honest to goodness cannot comprehend what would make someone think those devices are innovative. What I see, is the same old Apple stuff but with an Android screen size. Maybe for the Apple world they're innovative because they're so much bigger, but in comparison to any other tech on the market I am failing miserably in trying to find innovation in those iPhone's.
    10-29-2014 05:00 PM
  5. HothTron's Avatar
    I legitimately have to ask what in the He** makes you think the iPhone 6 and 6+ are the most innovative in this years crop? I ask that not to start a flame war of any kind, or to be asking for trouble. I honest to goodness cannot comprehend what would make someone think those devices are innovative. What I see, is the same old Apple stuff but with an Android screen size. Maybe for the Apple world they're innovative because they're so much bigger, but in comparison to any other tech on the market I am failing miserably in trying to find innovation in those iPhone's.

    10-29-2014 05:07 PM
  6. frooglepoopillion's Avatar
    I legitimately have to ask what in the He** makes you think the iPhone 6 and 6+ are the most innovative in this years crop? I ask that not to start a flame war of any kind, or to be asking for trouble. I honest to goodness cannot comprehend what would make someone think those devices are innovative. What I see, is the same old Apple stuff but with an Android screen size. Maybe for the Apple world they're innovative because they're so much bigger, but in comparison to any other tech on the market I am failing miserably in trying to find innovation in those iPhone's.
    Well, for starters TouchID is incredible and IMO a potential game changer for things like Last Pass/1password, NFC payments, and security in general. The A8 processor is a beast in benchmarks and real world performance. The camera is probably the best on the market and if you have a Mac with Yosemite the handoff stuff is pretty cool. I really like the idea of ApplePay as well (the card information being stored on your device) if it is in fact as secure as they claim. I also love the 6 Plus landscape mode especially if they can get it functioning as well as the iPad.

    Is most of this stuff available on the Note 4? Yes. Does it do it as well as the the 6//Plus? In my opinion, no (specifically the fingerprint scanner and the camera). That said the Note 4 is a close second and has the S-pen and turbo charging. But if I were choosing between the two in equal circumstances (ie no $200 giftcards or crazy discounts) I'd chose the 6 Plus. Now if they made a Nexus device with the same features I listed on the 6 Plus I'd be all over it. I'm digging what I've seen of Lollipop but unfortunately in my personal opinion it just doesn't offer enough to warrant spending $700.
    10-29-2014 05:25 PM
  7. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    Well, for starters TouchID is incredible and IMO a potential game changer for things like Last Pass/1password, NFC payments, and security in general. The A8 processor is a beast in benchmarks and real world performance. The camera is probably the best on the market and if you have a Mac with Yosemite the handoff stuff is pretty cool. I really like the idea of ApplePay as well (the card information being stored on your device) if it is in fact as secure as they claim. I also love the 6 Plus landscape mode especially if they can get it functioning as well as the iPad.

    Is most of this stuff available on the Note 4? Yes. Does it do it as well as the the 6//Plus? In my opinion, no (specifically the fingerprint scanner and the camera). That said the Note 4 is a close second and has the S-pen and turbo charging. But if I were choosing between the two in equal circumstances (ie no $200 giftcards or crazy discounts) I'd chose the 6 Plus. Now if they made a Nexus device with the same features I listed on the 6 Plus I'd be all over it. I'm digging what I've seen of Lollipop but unfortunately in my personal opinion it just doesn't offer enough to warrant spending $700.
    I will agree about the Touch ID. The camera I honestly feel is a toss up because the Note 4 does much better in daytime shots from what i've seen and what most professional reviewers say. Apple Pay is the dumbest thing in the world in my eyes because all they did was copied Google Wallet and gave it a new name. There's zero innovation there when it's 3 years behind it's main competitor.

    I can see how the camera in low light and touch ID could be huge for some. I also understand if you need Apple products so they play well with other Apple products you already own. I understand the iPhone 6 and 6+ are great devices. In my opinion, the very best iPhones yet. But I don't feel that they are the most innovative on the market. To me, innovation is new features that work well. The S pen is innovation. Moto's touchless controls are innovative. LG's button placement and "Knock on" feature is innovative. Apple doing Touch ID in the past was innovative. The i6 did nothing but take what they already had plus a few things that everyone else does, and make the screen bigger along the way. Great device, but not what i'd call "innovative."
    10-29-2014 05:45 PM
  8. Almeuit's Avatar
    I believe Wifi calling is built into Lollipop and iOS8 so it should be supported regardless, at least on the Nexus and iOS8 phones.

    I had my Nexus 4 on Tmobile for a few months 2 years ago and it was fully supported as well as my friend's Nexus 5 so I'm not sure why you think they don't support it?
    They may have supported wifi calling as in Voip calls.. But not actual T-Mobile wifi calling where people call my normal cell number and it goes through my wifi instead. That is new to Nexus and usually has only been a T-Mobile branded phone thing.... And yes Apple worked with T-Mobile to do it for iOS 8..but it only works for T-Mobile customers.
    10-29-2014 05:56 PM
  9. HothTron's Avatar
    The i6 did nothing but take what they already had plus a few things that everyone else does, and make the screen bigger along the way. Great device, but not what i'd call "innovative."
    Or what I like to call "Apples business strategy is to create/"copy" then "Overhype" then "sue"
    10-29-2014 06:01 PM
  10. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    I would fall over dead if I saw people actually getting credit where it's due. Therefore, I guess I can be grateful that some people think Apple was innovating when they announced "Apple Pay".
    10-29-2014 06:08 PM
  11. frooglepoopillion's Avatar
    I will agree about the Touch ID. The camera I honestly feel is a toss up because the Note 4 does much better in daytime shots from what i've seen and what most professional reviewers say. Apple Pay is the dumbest thing in the world in my eyes because all they did was copied Google Wallet and gave it a new name. There's zero innovation there when it's 3 years behind it's main competitor.

    I can see how the camera in low light and touch ID could be huge for some. I also understand if you need Apple products so they play well with other Apple products you already own. I understand the iPhone 6 and 6+ are great devices. In my opinion, the very best iPhones yet. But I don't feel that they are the most innovative on the market. To me, innovation is new features that work well. The S pen is innovation. Moto's touchless controls are innovative. LG's button placement and "Knock on" feature is innovative. Apple doing Touch ID in the past was innovative. The i6 did nothing but take what they already had plus a few things that everyone else does, and make the screen bigger along the way. Great device, but not what i'd call "innovative."
    I agree ApplePay itself is not innovative but the way they handle security for it is in theory much better than Google Wallet (just taking Apple at their word on the standalone security chip in the phone and that info is stored locally until proven wrong). Also while TouchID was offered on the 5S many of it's features weren't implemented until iOS8 and the iPhone 6.

    As far as other phones go, it really just sounds like they are just throwing out features onto a wall to see what sticks. I mean, knock and touchless controls seem more gimmicky (much like many of the S4 features: scroll with your eyes! really?) than useful technology to me. Disclaimer: I have not messed around with a MotoX so I could be wrong on the touchless stuff, but at face value it just seems like something you would show your friends as a cool thing the phone can do and in practice it wouldn't get much use. As far as the S-pen goes, I can definitely see its usefulness and it is legitimately awesome.

    Maybe innovation was the wrong word to use... I guess my point is for the most part the tech Apple uses seems far less gimmicky and more useful in day-to-day life than many of the "innovations" that other manufacturers have put forth. Are they bad? Not at all! But at a certain point I just have to step back and ask "ok, this is fun but is it really adding any value to my life?" And to me, right now, Apple is ahead in that regard followed by the Note 4.
    10-29-2014 06:15 PM
  12. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    I agree ApplePay itself is not innovative but the way they handle security for it is in theory much better than Google Wallet (just taking Apple at their word on the standalone security chip in the phone and that info is stored locally until proven wrong). Also while TouchID was offered on the 5S many of it's features weren't implemented until iOS8 and the iPhone 6.

    As far as other phones go, it really just sounds like they are just throwing out features onto a wall to see what sticks. I mean, knock and touchless controls seem more gimmicky (much like many of the S4 features: scroll with your eyes! really?) than useful technology to me. Disclaimer: I have not messed around with a MotoX so I could be wrong on the touchless stuff, but at face value it just seems like something you would show your friends as a cool thing the phone can do and in practice it wouldn't get much use. As far as the S-pen goes, I can definitely see its usefulness and it is legitimately awesome.

    Maybe innovation was the wrong word to use... I guess my point is for the most part the tech Apple uses seems far less gimmicky and more useful in day-to-day life than many of the "innovations" that other manufacturers have put forth. Are they bad? Not at all! But at a certain point I just have to step back and ask "ok, this is fun but is it really adding any value to my life?" And to me, right now, Apple is ahead in that regard followed by the Note 4.
    I think I got ya now. I see where you're coming from. However I do think you have to see Moto's touchless controls in person before reducing them to gimmicks. They are not like Samsung's touchless commands that they tried out a little while ago. Also the knock on feature of the LG line is almost a necessity because the buttons are on the back of the device. My buddy was struggling to like his G3 because the buttons on the back made it so annoying for him to check for notifications if the phone was on his desk, because he'd have to pick it up each time to hit the power button to wake the screen. When I showed him the knock on feature, he about lost it and now he loves the thing. I do agree with you though on the S4 features. Samsung has tried way too hard to be innovative in so many ways, that at this point I really can only see the S pen as their true mark of innovation.
    10-29-2014 06:21 PM
  13. frooglepoopillion's Avatar
    They may have supported wifi calling as in Voip calls.. But not actual T-Mobile wifi calling where people call my normal cell number and it goes through my wifi instead. That is new to Nexus and usually has only been a T-Mobile branded phone thing.... And yes Apple worked with T-Mobile to do it for iOS 8..but it only works for T-Mobile customers.
    Ah, you mean the app... I am pretty sure I read somewhere that once Lollipop hits the flagships it will be supported universally but I could be wrong. I'm not sure how it works on iOS8 either but I think it's baked into the OS. It would be great if it was supported by all carriers.
    10-29-2014 06:21 PM
  14. Almeuit's Avatar
    Ah, you mean the app... I am pretty sure I read somewhere that once Lollipop hits the flagships it will be supported universally but I could be wrong. I'm not sure how it works on iOS8 either but I think it's baked into the OS. It would be great if it was supported by all carriers.
    It is baked into the OS but only works for T-Mobile. The carrier also has to support it as well since your calls (and texts) will be routed through wifi instead of the cell towers.

    Sprint is starting to get wifi calling out... AT&T / Verizon are going to roll out wifi calling but not till next year or even later. T-Mobile is the only official one.
    10-29-2014 06:25 PM
  15. frooglepoopillion's Avatar
    I think I got ya now. I see where you're coming from. However I do think you have to see Moto's touchless controls in person before reducing them to gimmicks. They are not like Samsung's touchless commands that they tried out a little while ago. Also the knock on feature of the LG line is almost a necessity because the buttons are on the back of the device. My buddy was struggling to like his G3 because the buttons on the back made it so annoying for him to check for notifications if the phone was on his desk, because he'd have to pick it up each time to hit the power button to wake the screen. When I showed him the knock on feature, he about lost it and now he loves the thing. I do agree with you though on the S4 features. Samsung has tried way too hard to be innovative in so many ways, that at this point I really can only see the S pen as their true mark of innovation.
    That makes a lot more sense for knock on the G3 actually. But kind of begs the question why even move the buttons to the back in the first place? It's almost like a solution they created for a problem they created that no one really asked them to solve.
    10-29-2014 06:26 PM
  16. HothTron's Avatar
    It's almost like a solution they created for a problem they created that no one really asked them to solve.
    LG apparently thinks otherwise
    10-29-2014 06:30 PM
  17. m3lover1's Avatar
    LG apparently thinks otherwise
    I think otherwise too. It's brilliant. First of all it makes the bezels all around slimmer, and overall the phone slimmer as all. Secondly while holding the phone, it's easier to reach for power and volume buttons with your index finger instead of shifting the phone and using your thumb or index fingers on buttons on the side. Lastly, when the phone is on table? Just knock on. Simple and intuitive.
    10-29-2014 08:04 PM
  18. Preach2k's Avatar
    I love my Note 3...except for the camera! The shutter is way too slow! Look, I understand it's a phone and not a DSLR or even a point and shoot but WTH!? I have no other big issues with the Note 3 but why an iPhone 5s' camera flat-out smokes it (IME) is annoying.

    I sincerely hoped the Note 4's camera was heads and tails better. Should not the camera be remarkably great in a flagship phone? At least as good, if not better than the iPhone 5s'?
    I don't know if you read this article about the Note 4 beating the iPhone 6 and other phones in a blind test.
    Camera comparison: Samsung Galaxy Note 4 vs iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, Sony Xperia Z3, LG G3, Galaxy S5, Galaxy Note 3

    Also this time around The Gnote4 has a Sony Camera on board.
    https://plus.google.com/+SamsungMobi...ts/LPs7X8APvUy

    I never had an Issue with My GNote3's Camera. It too great pictures. They have improved on the Camera.
    10-29-2014 08:35 PM
  19. frooglepoopillion's Avatar
    That Phone Arena test was allegedly rigged as there was an active plan among users to guess which shots were the iPhone and vote against it. Not sure how much truth is in that but I've seen it posted elsewhere.
    10-29-2014 10:18 PM
  20. Haalcyon's Avatar
    I don't know if you read this article about the Note 4 beating the iPhone 6 and other phones in a blind test.
    Camera comparison: Samsung Galaxy Note 4 vs iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, Sony Xperia Z3, LG G3, Galaxy S5, Galaxy Note 3

    Also this time around The Gnote4 has a Sony Camera on board.
    https://plus.google.com/+SamsungMobi...ts/LPs7X8APvUy

    I never had an Issue with My GNote3's Camera. It too great pictures. They have improved on the Camera.
    I note that they say my Note 3 does slow motion in video. I'll have to play with that.
    10-30-2014 12:31 AM
  21. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    That makes a lot more sense for knock on the G3 actually. But kind of begs the question why even move the buttons to the back in the first place? It's almost like a solution they created for a problem they created that no one really asked them to solve.
    I would think there were two reasons. #1 It allows for almost non existent bezels which everyone seems to want for some reason, and #2 it's more natural to have a button on the back when the majority of people prop the back of the phone up with a finger or two. I know I do it all the time so they put the buttons where the fingers are instead of making you adjust your grip to reach a button.
    10-30-2014 10:04 AM
  22. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    That Phone Arena test was allegedly rigged as there was an active plan among users to guess which shots were the iPhone and vote against it. Not sure how much truth is in that but I've seen it posted elsewhere.
    I doubt that tremendously. OF course it doesn't surprise me that the iPhone gets destroyed in a camera test so outlandish claims of it being "rigged" surface. How the he** would anyone know which pics were the iPhone? Guaranteed people would've guessed wrong at some percentage, and everyone loves iPhones and loves to hate Samsung so if anything, I could see it being the other way around.
    10-30-2014 10:07 AM
  23. dpham00's Avatar
    I don't know if you read this article about the Note 4 beating the iPhone 6 and other phones in a blind test.
    Camera comparison: Samsung Galaxy Note 4 vs iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, Sony Xperia Z3, LG G3, Galaxy S5, Galaxy Note 3

    Also this time around The Gnote4 has a Sony Camera on board.
    https://plus.google.com/+SamsungMobi...ts/LPs7X8APvUy

    I never had an Issue with My GNote3's Camera. It too great pictures. They have improved on the Camera.
    It depends on your needs. Lower light motion goes to the iPhone 6 plus for sure. Like indoors with limited lighting taking pictures of a toddler. Which is what I mainly use my phone camera for.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4
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    10-30-2014 10:23 AM
  24. frooglepoopillion's Avatar
    It depends on your needs. Lower light motion goes to the iPhone 6 plus for sure. Like indoors with limited lighting taking pictures of a toddler. Which is what I mainly use my phone camera for.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4
    How does the Note 4 compare with the HTC One camera?
    10-30-2014 12:50 PM
  25. HothTron's Avatar
    How does the Note 4 compare with the HTC One camera?
    Anything is better then that joke of a camera idea.... It really is too bad that the Z3 is so small cause I played with it at T-mobile store yesterday and it makes the entire Galaxy series feel like utter china crap, the Sony feels real good and looks damn good as well. If it was only in the 5.5'' range, I woulda thrown my Note 3 at the T-mobile rep right then and there and say "I'm done with Samsungs sheet, give me a Z3 now, cost irrelevant"
    10-30-2014 05:39 PM
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