12-07-2014 03:13 PM
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  1. V J's Avatar
    The screens essentially show nothing but a phone sitting in wifi standby for 3 days.
    Stop. You don't know how Wi-Fi battery stats work. Just stop.
    11-16-2014 09:21 PM
  2. Trinatek's Avatar
    LOL you are so bad at reading battery stats...
    I completely agree with you..
    Stop. You don't know how Wi-Fi battery stats work. Just stop.
    First, why did you choose to use three different posts to respond to these people when you could have just responded in a single post? Just curious.
    Second, why are taking on such a negative and attacking tone? Jesus.
    11-16-2014 09:26 PM
  3. V J's Avatar
    First, why did you choose to use three different posts to respond to these people when you could have just responded in a single post? Just curious.
    Second, why are taking on such a negative and attacking tone? Jesus.
    I'm replying to each post separately, there's nothing wrong with that. As for my tone, they're appropriate towards the individuals I'm replying to. As you can see in the second post of mine that you quoted, there was nothing negative there. The other two on the other hand, well let's just say people who don't know how Android works shouldn't really be coming on to forums scrutinizing things when they don't know what the hell they're talking about.
    11-16-2014 09:34 PM
  4. LaTuFu's Avatar
    That's silly. Every single Note 4 I have come across, and that other people have come across (unless have a custom rom of course) lags when you press the recent apps button. Everyone. Every reviewer and every user who has Touchwiz by default.

    Show me some unedited footage of you successfully using the recent apps button with no lag, with 3+ apps running. To my knowledge, it's not gonna happen. It's an objective fact, not an opinion.
    Suit yourself.

    I've never had any issues with it. I wasn't even aware of it as an issue until reading about it in this forum.

    I've tried to replicate it several times (last time just before this reply) and still don't have it.

    If you want to hold on to your "objective fact" feel free.
    11-16-2014 09:44 PM
  5. Trinatek's Avatar
    I'm replying to each post separately, there's nothing wrong with that. As for my tone, they're appropriate towards the individuals I'm replying to. As you can see in the second post of mine that you quoted, there was nothing negative there. The other two on the other hand, well let's just say people who don't know how Android works shouldn't really be coming on to forums scrutinizing things when they don't know what the hell they're talking about.
    I suppose I just sort of thought that it was forum etiquette, to not "spam" (not meant to be derogatory) multiple, back-to-back, posts. And to instead do.... well, this (responding to multiple posts in a single reply). Helps from wasting space on these threads, and helps to reduce extra pages that don't need to exist.

    Suit yourself.

    I've never had any issues with it. I wasn't even aware of it as an issue until reading about it in this forum.

    I've tried to replicate it several times (last time just before this reply) and still don't have it.

    If you want to hold on to your "objective fact" feel free.
    Are you saying you've never had any personal issues with the delay/lag when clicking on the recent apps button? Or that you have never had the delay/lag -- period? As you can tell, I'm still extremely skeptical of your claim. Is there any way you can record it so we can see? If there are phones out there that have 0 lag with that button, then me and thousands of others will demand replacements as the thousand of us have received (to some extent) faulty products.

    Not trying to attack you with this, but you're telling me that no matter how many apps you previously opened, when you press the recent apps button (with stock phone), there's an instant response, and no delay/lag/stutter whatsoever? Can anyone else here attest to this? That just seems like a really huge claim considering how across the board -- in every review, my own anecdotal personal experience, as well as other owners have reported a delay/lag/stutter with the Recent Apps button.
    11-16-2014 10:44 PM
  6. NikzzM's Avatar
    Note has no lag and a great battery. Touch wiz isn't that bad. Just use a different Launcher, disable the double tap for s voice, and speed up animations under developer options.

    And if you're into root then flash a good Touch Wiz ROM. I'm using a touch wiz rom (only touch wiz roms are available right now anyway. No AOSP yet). The ROM I'm on has dramatically increased speed, performance, sound, picture quality, and battery life. Plus I've themed, debloated, and will never have ads again.

    There is no device more powerful right now than a rooted Note 4. This rom is lightning fast. I forgot what lag was until I got on my ipad. Not only is it fast, but about 90% of the people on this ROM are reporting at the very least 5 hrs screen time. I've seen a couple with 6.5/7 hrs screen on time.

    Get the Note 4. Don't think about it any longer. It's a hell of a device. You won't regret it. I promise. And on the offhand that you do, the most you'll have to do is go back to the store and get a refund.
    Hey. Can you tell me more about the Custom Rom. Do we have guides how to flash this? and is the S Pen compatible with it? THanks
    11-16-2014 11:14 PM
  7. slave's Avatar
    1 hour a day is "moderate use"? Whatever you say cupcake.

    Look, so far, not one person here agrees with you. Seriously, not one person. Anyone who claims that a Galaxy S3 gets 3 days of USE, not STAND BY, is either a troll, or a bigger troll. The Galaxy S3 did not have above average battery life, as there is no standard to measure what average is, but it is agreed that 3 hours of screen on time is not above average. The Note 2 gets 5 hours of screen on time, for example.

    I get it, you really like Samsung, and that's okay. I don't. That is also okay. The Note 4 looks very intriguing, which is why I am here. No one said anything about looking for a phone with 3 days of battery with heavy use, you are now making up details. In fact, you are the one who sounds insane, since no one said anything you are accusing me of, except for you. If you think using a phone for less than 1 hour a day is moderate use, your opinion on anything is worthless, when it comes to this conversation.

    You could be the smartest man in the world, but when it comes to this matter, your opinion is worthless. 1 hour of use a day is not even light use. Go away please, come back when you can act like you are more than 12 years old.
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    11-16-2014 11:47 PM
  8. V J's Avatar
    1 hour a day is "moderate use"? Whatever you say cupcake.

    Look, so far, not one person here agrees with you. Seriously, not one person. Anyone who claims that a Galaxy S3 gets 3 days of USE, not STAND BY, is either a troll, or a bigger troll. The Galaxy S3 did not have above average battery life, as there is no standard to measure what average is, but it is agreed that 3 hours of screen on time is not above average. The Note 2 gets 5 hours of screen on time, for example.

    I get it, you really like Samsung, and that's okay. I don't. That is also okay. The Note 4 looks very intriguing, which is why I am here. No one said anything about looking for a phone with 3 days of battery with heavy use, you are now making up details. In fact, you are the one who sounds insane, since no one said anything you are accusing me of, except for you. If you think using a phone for less than 1 hour a day is moderate use, your opinion on anything is worthless, when it comes to this conversation.

    You could be the smartest man in the world, but when it comes to this matter, your opinion is worthless. 1 hour of use a day is not even light use. Go away please, come back when you can act like you are more than 12 years old.
    Do you ever come up with your own witty remarks? Or you just copy whatever's been said to you and reword it slightly? Seriously.

    As for having above average battery life, here. I'm assuming I don't have to explain the meaning of average to you, yes?

    3g Talk time:
    Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Hate Touch Whiz, but I like this phone.....HALP!?!?!?!?-galaxy-s3-3g-talk-time.jpg

    Web browsing:
    Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Hate Touch Whiz, but I like this phone.....HALP!?!?!?!?-galaxy-s3-web-browsing.jpg

    Video playback:
    Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Hate Touch Whiz, but I like this phone.....HALP!?!?!?!?-galaxy-s3-video-playback.jpg

    As you can see, at the time of its release the S3 had above average battery life, just like I stated. No, it wasn't the best and it never was, but even in todays standards it's still respectable.

    Now please, please just shut [language removed by moderator]up. I'm sick and tired of showing proof regarding the points I've made. Meanwhile you continue to churn out worthless babble you call opinions. Do us all a favor and keep your opinions to yourself because you don't have anything to back up your claims.

    Oh, and don't bother replying to this post because I'm abandoning this sad thread. I have a feeling I've been feeding the troll this whole time. I encourage everyone else to do the same.
    11-17-2014 12:06 AM
  9. JRDroid's Avatar
    I am a fellow touchwiz hater. I couldn't stand it. That said, I just bought a Note 4 today. So far Touchwiz is... better. I havent had the phone long enough to say if I like it more or less than "pure" Android (I too had a Moto X and a N5),however,it does seem very livable on the Note 4. There are a few things I even genuinely like about it. I still think that LG has the best skinned version of Android, but since the G Pro 2 wasn't released in the US, I went with the Note 4.

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    11-17-2014 12:20 AM
  10. Tkbredx's Avatar
    Hey. Can you tell me more about the Custom Rom. Do we have guides how to flash this? and is the S Pen compatible with it? THanks
    Sure thing the ROM is great and the thread I posted includes the instructions on how to flash it. And if you need help the thread is very noob friendly. Just make sure to read and use the search on the thread because it angers a lot of people when the same question is asked over and over and could've been avoided by simply reading or searching.

    The S Pen is very compatible with it. In fact... The Dev has improved the S Pen as well, giving it a more 1:1 ratio.
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    11-17-2014 02:59 AM
  11. NikzzM's Avatar
    Sure thing the ROM is great and the thread I posted includes the instructions on how to flash it. And if you need help the thread is very noob friendly. Just make sure to read and use the search on the thread because it angers a lot of people when the same question is asked over and over and could've been avoided by simply reading or searching.

    The S Pen is very compatible with it. In fact... The Dev has improved the S Pen as well, giving it a more 1:1 ratio.
    Thats great to hear. Another noob question. this was for tmobile right? will it also work on the exynos model of Note 4?
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    11-17-2014 05:01 AM
  12. BOSSY TEXAS CHICK's Avatar
    Yikes, you told me! You go you!
    Enjoyed this thread a lot, but gotta wonder, are moderators OFF on weekends? Have seen them take down far less acerbic banter. If this makes it past "Monday Morning", Slave, gotta ask you, have you seen this trick (not sure if its a trick per se, so don't go bitin' my head off if you have!) Switching between Launcher with zero lag and never clearing default? (Personally by not disabling it altogether offers the ability to REALLY set it up the way you want.. Touchwiz crap when you want it, replacement when you don't- INSTANTLY)

    I really hope you DO get this phone...I think the Pros will DEF outweigh the cons, and if not, there's always that, "pesky lil $35.00 restocking fee" option


    BTC

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    11-17-2014 06:35 AM
  13. epic4grooted's Avatar
    I came from the note 3 and love my note 4 sounds like you need some coffee or something if you look for something to hate in anything you will find it look for the things you like and you will find them too

    Sent from my SM-P905V using Tapatalk
    11-17-2014 07:12 AM
  14. knowledge_6's Avatar
    regardless of who is right and wrong and who knows more or not my post will involve answering your question about the Note 4... besides the Moto devices u had i had the same phones..
    S2, S3, Note 3, N5, LG G3......

    I found some issues like u did with these devices... But the reception issue i didn't really have an issue with cause Rogers is pretty good... and i put AT&T ROMs on my S3 with different improved radio from various people that worked with Rogers... Battery life i couldn't give two craps about just as long as it lasts me 16 hours... with the S3 and N5 that was no possible... i had to charge at work or have an emergency battery on me or a USB portable charge pack..

    Note 3 lasted me all day no problem... LG G3 it would depend on the day but usually it would last me all day... stock out of the box it was laggy... all around.. slap on Nova Launcher with ART enabled and some other tweaks you could get it running pretty smooth.. but i think (i'm not sure) the GPU and the 801 SD chip was not very well suited for the QHD Screen... some games lagged... the simple PIANO TILES game where you tap the black tiles as they move down speeding up would lag and glitch and actually make me lose the game.. the notification bar pull down was laggy for me as well.. but those bezels on that phone.. WOW..

    Note 4... it's touchwiz... if u don't like it then ur gonna have a tough time... it is the best version of TW to date with some Lollipop in there (i.e recent apps) and mostly materially designed, but it lags at some parts... i.e. after you take a picture and u want to preview it in the gallery.. Samsung's Gallery app SUCKS.... it takes a significant amount of time..i've downloaded quickpic for my gallery of choice..... i've had the keyboard lag on me when i am doing some browser and other tasks together.. but overall the device is fast! I dislike Apple but u gotta give credit to how smooth and fast things open on iOS... i have nova launcher on there now and i am Rooted and disabled some apps... the battery lasts all day just fine... i use my device a decent amount... i have wifi turned on all day, i have BT turned on all day with my moto 360 paired to it ... i have my brightness set to 100% at all times... i watch movies on the train (1hr commute one way) or i surf social networks.. my reception has been amazing.. no dropped calls and with Rogers' new LTE-A network and faster download speeds i've seen a TAD bit of improvement in my office and it actually works in the elevator.. i get about 75-90mb/sec download speeds in good areas and about 45mb/s in fair areas..
    the screen is amazing! it's bright.. it's big... and everything looks crisp.... the speaker sound is OKAY.. but can't compare to an M8 or anything with dual speakers... the BIGGEST downside to this device has to do with accessories.. you won't be able to find a tempered glass screen to fit the device properly.. it's very hit and miss... and most people have missed.. like me ... the case department is ok.. but that metal chamfered edge has a very high chance of getting scratched even while in a case...

    so touchwiz is much much better.. but it's still touchwiz.. you will find it lags and that it's very deeply integrated into the device for most of the features... but overall it's fast but still expect some minor lags here and there...
    slave likes this.
    11-17-2014 08:56 AM
  15. blitz118's Avatar
    It is obvious the OP does not like Samsung phones, and I'm not sure why he is even considering getting one. From what I've read Motorola phones have some of the best antennas, so maybe he should head over to the Motorola forum instead of insulting the users in the Samsung forum.
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    11-17-2014 08:56 AM
  16. slave's Avatar
    It is obvious the OP does not like Samsung phones, and I'm not sure why he is even considering getting one. From what I've read Motorola phones have some of the best antennas, so maybe he should head over to the Motorola forum instead of insulting the users in the Samsung forum.

    Whoa! No! I didn't insult anyone! I haven't said anything about anyone except for VJ, and I only said his opinion doesn't count. I have received lots of help here, and thanked quite a few people. Why is it insulting because I hate Samsung? I haven't had a negative thing to say about anyone, except for VJ.

    As to why I am here, I have said it a few times. The S pen, the form factor and that gorgeous screen are great. If I can get past the ugly bits, which I think I can, based on what the people here have said, then I can get this phone.

    Wow.
    11-17-2014 09:10 AM
  17. PowrDroid's Avatar

    How is the Note 4? Does it still have that special brand of Touch Crap lag? Can you finally shut off all of that stupid Samsuck bloat? The S3 had a terrible radio also, have the Galaxy radios improved? Is there a base android ROM I can put on this thing and remove TW completely? Has there been any rumors of a GPE version?

    Thanks guys.
    Sounds like you want:
    1. Base Android experience
    2. Great battery
    3. No lag
    4. Great radio

    That sounds like the Moto Droid Turbo to me.
    11-17-2014 09:55 AM
  18. LegalAmerican's Avatar

    As to why I am here, I have said it a few times. The S pen, the form factor and that gorgeous screen are great.
    If they're so great, enough with the Samsung bashing. Okay, so you had a bad experience with Samsung software TWO YEARS ago with the S3. I get it. I too had a bad experience with my S3. I had to take a break from Samsung and got the Nexus 5 which I absolutely loved, but Samsung knocked it out of the park with the Note 4 so here I am, back with a Samsung device. I still didn't like TW, so I put on the Google Now Launcher. If that's something you want to try, DO IT! But for the love, enough with the 'Samsuck' hipster comments. If Samsung is so terrible, don't buy their crap! If you're finding yourself interested in their products even after your terrible experience with the S3, then clearly they aren't as terrible as you're saying they are.
    11-17-2014 10:23 AM
  19. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    Sounds like you want:
    1. Base Android experience
    2. Great battery
    3. No lag
    4. Great radio

    That sounds like the Moto Droid Turbo to me.
    You missed something pretty huge in his wishlist, and the reason a lot of people get the Note. The S pen.
    11-17-2014 10:24 AM
  20. PowrDroid's Avatar
    You missed something pretty huge in his wishlist, and the reason a lot of people get the Note. The S pen.
    Wasn't mentioned in the original post. Slave (the original poster) finally mentions he "loves the S pen" in post #33. I didn't see that when I made my response. My bad.
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    11-17-2014 10:28 AM
  21. N4Newbie's Avatar
    Okay, I left Samsuck after the Galaxy S3. Until then, all of my Android life had been Galaxy phones. I got the Moto X, never looked back.

    Since the Moto X, I went to a N5. The weak camera, weak signal and weak battery swore me away from the Nexus 5, the only problem, base Android is OUTSTANDING.

    I loathe TW, I hate the extreme bloatware Samsung puts on these phones. I hate the Samsung App store, music store, storage services, etc. Until I saw a buddies Note 3, I would have never conscidered coming back.

    Fast forward to the Nexus 6. Big phone with a substandard screen, that gets 3.5 hours of battery time, and opens apps slow.... No. The Moto X is big, with a tiny battery also. I don't know what is going on, but it looks like Samsung has clawed its way back.

    No HTC, as I hate Sense and Blinkfeed more than I hate Apple. LG's button lay out is ugly, and stupid, plus they lost me with that poor Nexus 5.

    How is the Note 4? Does it still have that special brand of Touch Crap lag? Can you finally shut off all of that stupid Samsuck bloat? The S3 had a terrible radio also, have the Galaxy radios improved? Is there a base android ROM I can put on this thing and remove TW completely? Has there been any rumors of a GPE version?

    Thanks guys.
    How can you even begin to make such a statement when the only people who have even seen a Nexus 6 in the flesh are a small cadre of reviewers and even they probably have pre-production models not running the release version of Android 5?
    11-17-2014 02:38 PM
  22. fragment137's Avatar
    Sorry for not reading the whole thread but there was a hell of a lot of flaming and un-related stuffs going on :/

    OP: I'm sorry if I missed this but did you look at the LG G3? I read that you had a bad experience with the Nexus 5 (To be honest I know a good number of people who've had similar experiences as you) but I have to say that LG has really stepped it up in terms of their build quality (Just my opinion though).

    Sometimes it IS just the -phone- that's bad, not necessarily the manufacturer as a whole. Though I have to lean towards your side with Samsung. I know people have had good experiences with them, but I personally can't stand TouchWiz, and the build quality of Samsung is a bit lackluster in my opinion.
    11-17-2014 03:02 PM
  23. LaTuFu's Avatar
    Sorry for not reading the whole thread but there was a hell of a lot of flaming and un-related stuffs going on :/

    OP: I'm sorry if I missed this but did you look at the LG G3? I read that you had a bad experience with the Nexus 5 (To be honest I know a good number of people who've had similar experiences as you) but I have to say that LG has really stepped it up in terms of their build quality (Just my opinion though).

    Sometimes it IS just the -phone- that's bad, not necessarily the manufacturer as a whole. Though I have to lean towards your side with Samsung. I know people have had good experiences with them, but I personally can't stand TouchWiz, and the build quality of Samsung is a bit lackluster in my opinion.
    That has definitely been a valid criticism of Samsung in the past. You should probably check out the Note 4 for yourself. It's a lot harder to claim bad stuff about TW or build quality with this device.
    11-17-2014 03:08 PM
  24. fragment137's Avatar
    That has definitely been a valid criticism of Samsung in the past. You should probably check out the Note 4 for yourself. It's a lot harder to claim bad stuff about TW or build quality with this device.
    Granted I haven't had a lot of hands-on time with the Note 4 specifically, but I do have a Galaxy Tab S at home. It's a great tablet (definitely improved over previous generations) but TouchWiz still bugs me. I haven't been bothered enough to change it to another launcher though.
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    11-17-2014 03:12 PM
  25. slave's Avatar
    Lol! I don't need positive criticism. I got what I needed, several people where very helpful.

    I will not stop saying Samsuck, nor will I say anything positive about Touch Whiz.

    I do like this phone now, and the helpful posts solidified that. None of that feel good will go toward Samsuck though.
    11-17-2014 04:16 PM
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