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  1. pappcam's Avatar
    I want to thank u again for this post, saved my brother from getting a fake one today.
    The guy has one on Craigslist and it says it was made in Vietnam. Mine came from Verizon brand new and says made in China. Here is a screen shot the guy sent last night.

    Also if you Google his S\N it comes up as s4 and note 3

    Posted via the Android Central App
    My for real Note 4 was made in Vietnam.
    msndrstood likes this.
    12-18-2014 07:47 PM
  2. Cem FX's Avatar
    Just curious .. did the s pen have a metallic or hard tip? Felt like it would scratch the screen after some use. I saw one yesterday that the seller claimed was genuine but just felt wrong so i passed on it.
    01-06-2015 07:31 AM
  3. Haalcyon's Avatar
    To the OP, I'm sorry you got hit by this and really appreciate the time you took letting us know. It usually doesn't really hurt to have 2 phones so, at this point, I would recommend keeping it and getting the genuine article when you can. You can think of it as a Note 4 Light.
    01-06-2015 08:18 AM
  4. garakhan's Avatar
    I am sorry, and this is so frustrating. Making fakes and reselling fakes are very bad karma. We should do something to help karma happen soon. What can we do?
    01-21-2015 03:16 AM
  5. garakhan's Avatar
    Also, when I buy or sell smartphones, I do it in Swappa. Supposedly they pre-screen items first. I have bought several mint conditions and refurbs there without any issues.
    01-21-2015 03:18 AM
  6. ramonm2's Avatar
    I work with phones. A customer thought it would be a good idea to buy this.

    The phone broke in a week and he paid 400 USD for it.
    Attached Thumbnails Guide to spot fake/counterfeit Galaxy Note 4-1424189325411.jpg Β 
    02-17-2015 11:09 AM
  7. berdinkerdickle's Avatar
    Is there anymore evidence that swappa phones are verified to be legit?
    I won't buy from eBay because I got burned more than once on completely different items.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    02-23-2015 07:49 AM
  8. Frank Theplank's Avatar
    Just thought I would add my experience: got a Chinese counterfeit through ebay. Yes no heart rate monitor no finger print scanner pen did not 'hover' and no button features. Holding home power and up brought up Chinese menu no letter after the 910 on box and only one seal on the box all things you can use to spot fakes. I must admit I had no idea they were this good it fooled me for the first 5 minutes till I started pushing it as I had never tried a proper note 4. But yes so if it's a price that's too good to be true watch out! But I went for it due to ebay and pay pal cover and the seller refunded me in full apart from cheap return post which I let ride as I had taken a risk. I'm not sure this guy even realised it was a fake himself to be honest but I bet he had suspicions. Got exynos real version now via ebay...yay!
    02-27-2015 05:26 AM
  9. sweetypie31's Avatar
    I work with phones. A customer thought it would be a good idea to buy this.

    The phone broke in a week and he paid 400 USD for it.
    Noooooo. Please tell me this is a joke πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

    Posted via the Android Central App
    02-28-2015 02:48 PM
  10. Haalcyon's Avatar
    Noooooo. Please tell me this is a joke πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

    Posted via the Android Central App
    I read that "Common sense" is not really common and depends on the generation one is from. I guess it's true.

    πŸ”‹from the Note 4βœ’ πŸ“’
    02-28-2015 03:50 PM
  11. Steen Gr's Avatar
    I am not saying that the phones in question are counterfeits or not, but I want to point to a few things that may give a different explaination.

    On the Galaxy Note 4 you can select different power saving settings and one will turn off the "menu" and the back button light while another dimm the screen light.

    And Galaxy Note comes in 3 very different models (looking most the same, but a closer look will reveal several differences. The 16GB model are standard China just to mention one thing that may be relevant in this case.

    So again: one of these phones may be a counterfeit, but before other people begin to worry you will have to be aware the potential genuine differences.
    05-10-2015 02:50 AM
  12. mumfoau's Avatar
    Thankfully I've yet to get bitten in all my years of craigslist transactions. But, folks are making it more and more difficult these days!
    05-10-2015 09:29 AM
  13. Akshay Sapkal's Avatar
    Thanks for the Note on a Note!
    It will really help people identifying and avoiding to get a fake one!
    06-18-2015 10:41 AM
  14. recDNA's Avatar
    I could never tell the difference. They are so similar looking even with both in the picture. Seems there is no easy tell tale thing to look at. The one key thing that could be checked is the imei. I would not buy a used phone without checking that.
    06-20-2015 10:42 AM
  15. James See's Avatar
    This thing sucks. But at least you learn a lesson from it buddy
    07-21-2015 12:07 PM
  16. oussama hammou's Avatar
    root sm-n9100
    09-11-2015 12:29 PM
  17. djle93's Avatar
    When I was ready to buy a note 4, I found that looking at the ability to hover styles pen, the tip of the pen should be non metal, the camera in the front [ its a lot bigger than the two dot sensors, fakes have just a tad bigger] , the finger sensor in the back has a square, rectangle flat, rectangle standing pattern and checking the imei of what written behind the battery and the phone was enough to prove it was a real note 4.
    09-19-2015 11:06 AM
  18. jamesm79's Avatar
    Wow. I never even know they made fake phones, except for the dummy phones they put on display at certain stores. What a crock!
    09-23-2015 08:12 PM
  19. 1980s's Avatar
    Rule number 1 - never, ever buy second hand electricals.
    11-18-2015 11:47 PM
  20. daehttub's Avatar
    Sherlock: Thanks for this very informative and detailed post. I had no idea the GN4 (and now other flagshipdevices) were being copied with a shockingly high level of attention to detail. Knockoffs are no longer laughably obvious. Please ignore the judgmental trolls and know that your post has proved an invaluable heads up to me and other members of this board. I have just purchased a good GN4 off Ebay since my major carrier has run out of new GN4's. Given the lack of a removable battery on the GN5 and likely the GN6 (based on the S7 rumors) and the lack of an SD card on the GN5, the Note 4 is the only choice for picky power users like me. The used market is going to be the only option for most of us that still have the Note, Note2,, and Note3's. On another note, (no pun intended) the secondary market on EBay is an excellent choice for smart shoppers burned by the Asurion Insurance ripoff from AT&T/Verizon/Sprint/Etc for older phones like the GN4 and earlier Notes. If your phone is more than a year old, my recommendation is to stop paying for insurance. I am rocking a spotless older Note 2 from EBay that I purchased for less than the cost of an Asurian Insurance replacement. One EBay tip I will pass on is to never buy from a seller with little or no ratings/membership history on EBay and to always read any recent negative reviews. There is a special place in hell for swindlers that target ordinary folks like us.

    There are now a slew of "Fake GN4" videos on YouTube as this problem has become a real issue. I've pasted a link below:
    02-17-2016 02:07 PM
  21. gsm_mods's Avatar
    the SM-N910X model is the note 4 live demo unit
    02-22-2016 11:03 AM
  22. kgk1985's Avatar
    Wow. I never even know they made fake phones, except for the dummy phones they put on display at certain stores. What a crock!
    The Chinese make counterfeit EVERYTHING
    02-24-2016 10:13 AM
  23. Brew Swayne's Avatar
    OP, thanks for sharing your experience. Just out of curiosity, was the knock off being sold at a significantly lower cost than a new, genuine phone?

    The cost of phones today is so high that people are naturally looking for the best prices they can find. Counterfeiters are well aware of this and take advantage of your need to find a good deal and use it against you. When shopping for phones from private sellers, your best bet is to compare their price against the rest of the market. Legitimate retailers sell refurbished or "gently used" phones all the time at a sight ly reduced price. I'd say that if Ia private seller is selling for more than maybe 10% less than everyone else, the chances it's fake (or stolen) start to increase significantly. These phones retail brand new upon release for anywhere between $700-800. A 1 week old phone, as long as it isn't damaged should sell for damn near the same price. Unlike cars, phones don't take a major hit in depreciation after the first use.

    Know what the standard market rate for the phone is and if you come across someone selling the same phone for 30% less, you should probably ask yourself why. It's cliche as anything, but remember - if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.
    02-25-2016 03:06 AM
  24. daehttub's Avatar
    Batman: There certainly is a risk/reward tradeoff in the used market but there are real bargains to be had. That is part of the fun. EBay auction buyers must perform due diligence and that requires time and effort. Sometimes there is no other choice other than the used market. The last true power user Note (4) is no longer available new on many carriers. That said I still got lucky in a low activity auction and picked one up cheap that was in brand new condition. I had lost out on earlier auctions that went ridiculously high when some devolved into bidding wars which sellers love. Some sellers (annual upgraders) just want to dump their stuff for fast cash to offset their new phone upgrade cost and I was lucky enough to find one.
    02-26-2016 06:31 PM
  25. Brew Swayne's Avatar
    Using a site like eBay is going to offer you certain levels of protection. The OP, for example, said that he met with the seller. So I'm guessing this was something he saw on sites like Craigslist or even his local newspaper classifieds. Bottom line is that it was a person-to-person cash deal so it's almost certain that you aren't getting your money back.

    At least with something like eBay, there's a record of the transaction and if the item isn't as described in the listing, you have the means to get outside parties involved in refunding your money.
    02-26-2016 08:15 PM
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