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  1. Almeuit's Avatar
    I agree with this scenario (low light motion could be better). But read the thread. Now there are complaints of daytime pictures being "fuzzy" and "not clear". Really?
    Some people have had that issue. Remember just because you're not having issues doesn't mean others aren't. Some users have had to exchange due to some faulty camera focusing and other things.

    Just look at Lats post a few before this one. Image quality is all over .. And his movement issue is the same as mine. If my dog moves some it instantly blurs.
    12-15-2014 02:52 PM
  2. Almeuit's Avatar
    Examples below. One of my dog moving .. She was casually walking since she just woke up... Next she is still and it looks great.

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    12-15-2014 02:59 PM
  3. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    So, this still begs the question.... Are you all sticking with the Note, issues and all?
    Yes. Even if the iPhone camera is better, if I was switching just because of the Camera i'd be buying a Nikon or Canon DSLR to carry. I need my phone to do a lot more and if I owned an iPhone, i'd need it to also be a good club so I could put myself out of my misery. I'd get a great photo of that though.
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    12-15-2014 04:04 PM
  4. NVNJ's Avatar
    Examples below. One of my dog moving .. She was casually walking since she just woke up... Next she is still and it looks great.

    http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...7855f31f42.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...bd9192c2bc.jpg
    This is a great example. Thank you for posting. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that a software update will correct the camera.

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    12-15-2014 04:17 PM
  5. meg2013's Avatar
    So, I tested a bunch of things over the weekend. Forcing the flash on helps a little. Using google camera also helps, but it gives the pictures especially of people, a much cooler, less natural tone. I think there may be something else to do to make it better, and I love the phone, but darn it, I miss the iphone speed.
    12-15-2014 05:10 PM
  6. LaTuFu's Avatar
    So, I tested a bunch of things over the weekend. Forcing the flash on helps a little. Using google camera also helps, but it gives the pictures especially of people, a much cooler, less natural tone. I think there may be something else to do to make it better, and I love the phone, but darn it, I miss the iphone speed.
    Have you tried using Snapseed to edit your photos after?

    I don't worry to much about the hues on my shots, just the exposure, shot selection, and the other aspects I can't adjust later.

    Snapseed will adjust the rest.
    12-15-2014 05:56 PM
  7. meg2013's Avatar
    I haven't played much with snapseed. Can it magically make my pictures sharper? I'm somewhat tech savvy, but I generally don't mess with my pictures much after I take them.
    12-15-2014 06:01 PM
  8. LaTuFu's Avatar
    I haven't played much with snapseed. Can it magically make my pictures sharper? I'm somewhat tech savvy, but I generally don't mess with my pictures much after I take them.
    To some degree, yes it can.

    Give it a try you may find that you like your phone a whole lot more than you thought.
    12-15-2014 06:04 PM
  9. meg2013's Avatar
    Hmmm. I like snapseed. There's also a fast burst camera app that seems to get really quick snaps, but not especially sharp.
    12-16-2014 12:16 PM
  10. LaTuFu's Avatar
    Yeah, I have been playing around with a couple of different camera apps to see if there are any capabilities I can "unlock"
    12-16-2014 03:38 PM
  11. Ticojpunk's Avatar
    I ended up returning the Note, mainly because of the camera. It's great in the right conditions, but unfortunately conditions aren't always just right. I have two little kids and I have missed a lot of moments not having a point and shoot on me and with my aging GS3 and now with the Note 4.
    12-16-2014 07:59 PM
  12. meg2013's Avatar
    I ended up returning the Note, mainly because of the camera. It's great in the right conditions, but unfortunately conditions aren't always just right. I have two little kids and I have missed a lot of moments not having a point and shoot on me and with my aging GS3 and now with the Note 4.
    Sigh. This is my current dilemma exactly. What did you go with instead?
    12-17-2014 02:58 AM
  13. AnMobi's Avatar
    Not sure if people realize this but essentially what is being described is the exposure programming's propensity to use shutter speeds that are too low to capture stop action in low light situations. The images in NVNJ's post in post 9 of this thread show no movement of the TV itself but obvious movement in the images the TV produces. This indicates the shutter speed was high enough to be stable for still shots (the TV isn't moving) but not high enough for stop action.

    As for the iPhone vs this camera its likely that if the iPhone is producing better action shot results in low light that its exposure metering is pushing higher shutter speeds which result in that stop action.

    Personally, I just don't reach for a cell phone camera in low light indoor shots for anything but stills/portraits. If I know I'm going to photograph action indoors I'll bring or reach for my DSLR, set the ISO to a high enough setting to give me a shutter speed of over 1/120 or higher and I'm good (unless its sports in a gym at which point I'll push to much higher shutter speeds).

    Not sure what the solution is for the Note 4. I poked around in a few camera apps and haven't found anything yet to gain full control over shutter speed which really is what is required to solve the issue people in this thread are having.
    THIS, but my opinion is that, Note 4 takes more than 1 frame, the blurry effect on the TV is not motion blur, but it's like 2 pictures that merged together.
    12-17-2014 03:07 AM
  14. Almeuit's Avatar
    THIS, but my opinion is that, Note 4 takes more than 1 frame, the blurry effect on the TV is not motion blur, but it's like 2 pictures that merged together.
    Then what about my picture ?
    12-17-2014 09:07 AM
  15. Ticojpunk's Avatar
    Sigh. This is my current dilemma exactly. What did you go with instead?
    I went ahead and bought an iPhone 6 Plus. And even though I've been an Android user/fan/rooter for many years, I really like the 6 Plus. And the camera is freaking awesome. I was taking shots of my little 2 yr old daughter in my poorly lit kitchen, and then in my moderately lit bedroom while she was rolling around on the bed laughing, and I had no blurry faces. The shots when she was moving around a lot, it's not pin sharp, but the Note would have given me a blurry blob instead of a face. I'm pretty psyched about this phone, and also shocked I changed teams. Lol. A couple of my friends were giving me crap about it today, but the justification is in that photo ability.

    I miss the S Pen, I miss the endless customization of Android, and a few other things, but photo ability is the number one thing on my list of smart phone needs, and as great as the Note 4 was at taking pictures of still objects in bright daylight, it failed pretty terribly in any conditions that were less than ideal.


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    12-17-2014 09:59 PM
  16. meg2013's Avatar
    How's the battery? I'm leaning that way too, because I'm in love with my note, but I'm not sure the camera can do the trick for me.
    12-17-2014 10:16 PM
  17. meg2013's Avatar
    I went ahead and bought an iPhone 6 Plus. And even though I've been an Android user/fan/rooter for many years, I really like the 6 Plus. And the camera is freaking awesome. I was taking shots of my little 2 yr old daughter in my poorly lit kitchen, and then in my moderately lit bedroom while she was rolling around on the bed laughing, and I had no blurry faces. The shots when she was moving around a lot, it's not pin sharp, but the Note would have given me a blurry blob instead of a face. I'm pretty psyched about this phone, and also shocked I changed teams. Lol. A couple of my friends were giving me crap about it today, but the justification is in that photo ability.

    I miss the S Pen, I miss the endless customization of Android, and a few other things, but photo ability is the number one thing on my list of smart phone needs, and as great as the Note 4 was at taking pictures of still objects in bright daylight, it failed pretty terribly in any conditions that were less than ideal.


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    Would you mind sharing some pictures from the plus ? (not kid pics, but just to get some idea of real life use)
    12-17-2014 10:20 PM
  18. Ticojpunk's Avatar
    Would you mind sharing some pictures from the plus ? (not kid pics, but just to get some idea of real life use)
    I would, but I returned it.


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    12-18-2014 05:43 AM
  19. Ticojpunk's Avatar
    How's the battery? I'm leaning that way too, because I'm in love with my note, but I'm not sure the camera can do the trick for me.
    The battery is pretty insane. I haven't done a full drain yet. But I pulled it off charger about 12 hours ago and I'm at 70%. Granted, 7 hours was me sleeping, but I already have 3.5 hours usage, which I believe translates to screen on time. So far, it's definitely better than the Note 4, which was already really good.


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    12-18-2014 05:45 AM
  20. Nick_1020's Avatar
    We just need to see some manual controls on the Note 4 and that would improve things dramatically imho. It's not a bad camera by any means, it's just incredibly limited in low light and against movement.

    Nothing comes close to the 1020 for all round IQ, even if most camera phones can take a few dozen photos in the time the 1020 processes just one. I really miss the 1020 in that respect but everything else on the Note 4 is vastly better so it's a compromise. I can't see WP ever having the same ecosystem as iOS and Android so I'm hoping there will be an Android phone with a sensor to match the 1020 at some point. The DMC-CM1 is a great start but no xenon flash is madness.
    12-18-2014 06:59 AM
  21. meg2013's Avatar
    I would, but I returned it.

    You returned the plus already?


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    12-18-2014 08:20 AM
  22. Ticojpunk's Avatar
    Ok. I misunderstood. I thought you were talking about the Note. Sure, hopefully I can post a few things today.


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    12-18-2014 09:19 AM
  23. Ticojpunk's Avatar
    We just need to see some manual controls on the Note 4 and that would improve things dramatically imho. It's not a bad camera by any means, it's just incredibly limited in low light and against movement.

    Nothing comes close to the 1020 for all round IQ, even if most camera phones can take a few dozen photos in the time the 1020 processes just one. I really miss the 1020 in that respect but everything else on the Note 4 is vastly better so it's a compromise. I can't see WP ever having the same ecosystem as iOS and Android so I'm hoping there will be an Android phone with a sensor to match the 1020 at some point. The DMC-CM1 is a great start but no xenon flash is madness.
    Good post. I agree on all you said about the Note 4 camera. When you're taking shots of still objects, especially outdoors, it's awesome. It just really just falls apart in moderate to low light coupled with any motion.

    I guess the reality of all of this is nothing is everything, and any choice is a compromise in one area or another. Windows Phones have their strengths but lots of weaknesses too. Android is awesome in almost every way, but I think it's failed to keep up with Apple's camera design abilities. And the iPhone with its stellar camera performance, comes with a basket of limitations and confinements in the software. You just have to pick which areas you can't compromise on, pick the strongest phone in that area, and deal with the other compromises that come along with it.


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    12-18-2014 09:25 AM
  24. saiyyasuka pon's Avatar
    I feel u guys..note 4 failed on movement situation

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    12-18-2014 10:06 AM
  25. dpham00's Avatar
    The battery is pretty insane. I haven't done a full drain yet. But I pulled it off charger about 12 hours ago and I'm at 70%. Granted, 7 hours was me sleeping, but I already have 3.5 hours usage, which I believe translates to screen on time. So far, it's definitely better than the Note 4, which was already really good.


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    Having used both, in my usage, straight SOT is about the same, 12% drain per hour, under similar conditions. It seemed to have gotten slightly better for me after the update. But idle, the 6p gets way better than the note 4. I do have more stuff syncing on my note 4 though.

    Usage time doesn't automatically translate into SOT. It just counts when the phone is awake.


    " View Usage to see the amount of time your iOS device has been awake and in use since the last full charge. The device is awake if you’re on a call, using apps, listening to music, browsing the web, or sending and receiving email, or if an app refreshes in the background. View Standby to see the amount of time the device has been turned on since its last full charge, including the time the device has been asleep."

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4
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    12-18-2014 10:31 AM
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