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  1. brucedbr's Avatar
    That's why there are bluetooth headsets and ear buds
    Well, yeah, but often I find myself in a position where I don't have my Bluetooth or an ear bud with me. Would be nice to be able to listen to it without that.,
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    04-30-2015 05:00 PM
  2. DSMpowerhousegroup's Avatar
    No... batteries begin to degrade after about 6 months of heavy use. We should be allowed to replace them. A bum battery will make your phone worth nothing for resale...
    I'll be looking elsewhere...

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Had S4 2 years. Battery didn't degrade. Different technology these days.

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    04-30-2015 05:46 PM
  3. plumcrazy's Avatar
    it would force me to look into switching brands. not saying im leaving for sure but id look hard at others. i have no use for the spen, but i love the size, battery removal is important to me and so is SD card
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    04-30-2015 05:49 PM
  4. DSMpowerhousegroup's Avatar
    No one denies that it is an awesome phone! :-) however, I wonder how great you are going to think it is in 6 months when your battery life starts to degrade, and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it... I bet you're not going to be terribly happy then...
    Battery technology is different these days and batteries don't degrade as quick. Research it. Had my S4 for 2 years. It's battery is still as strong as before. If what you said was true, why do people buy IPhone?

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    04-30-2015 05:49 PM
  5. sparksd's Avatar
    Not correct, lithium ion batteries don't suffer the memory effect and should not degrade over time. All of my previous Android phones still take the same charge as day one. This myth needs to be put to rest.
    Lithium batteries have improved significantly but they still degrade over time.

    BNL Newsroom | Scientists Pinpoint the Creeping Nanocrystals Behind Lithium-Ion Battery Degradation

    Scientists pinpoint exact reason why lithium-ion batteries degrade over time - Electronic Products
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    04-30-2015 11:54 PM
  6. scuba_steve's Avatar
    Nope, sealed/embedded battery is a deal breaker! I want the OPTION of being able to swap out for a fresh battery to get back to a full charge in minutes, as well as keep the phone free from ever being tethered to a charging cable/source. I find that invaluable! I also refuse to accept the planned obsolescence of a sealed/embedded battery as I tend to keep my devices for years (ex. still have my Note 2).

    Same for me. In fact, this is one of the main reasons that I just bought a new Note 4 over an S6 to replace my S3. My wife felt the same way, so she just replaced her S3 with an S5 since she didn't like the size of the Note 4.

    I swap my battery with a new one every year and do the same for my wife's phone. Takes a minute and costs about ten beans to get a decent quality Anker replacement. A non-replaceable battery is a complete deal breaker for me..especially on a $600-$800 device. I would switch to another manufacturer.
    05-01-2015 01:25 AM
  7. Saturn1217's Avatar
    Sealed is fine. But they better not put a smaller battery in the note 5 just because they want the phone to be thinner than an iPhone.

    The main issue I have with the S6 is the needlessly small battery just so the phone could be 0.1mm thinner than the iPhone 6. As if anyone will care...

    I wish OEMs would start with a minimal target for battery life/size and then figure out how to build the best phone around that constraint rather than building the thinnest phone they can and then fitting as much battery as they can into that limited space. Phones became 'thin enough' ages ago.

    Posted via Android Central App
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    05-02-2015 09:32 AM
  8. fragologist's Avatar
    Just my thought, but I don't see the SD card slot going away on the note 5. Maybe the battery might be sealed due to external battery chargers becoming more popular. Given the nature of the note series, using it for a job or school, the SD slot will be needed for a large amount of data transfer. Granted cloud services are becoming more popular for data storage and transfer but more and more people are on limited data plans. Wifi Hotspots, at least for me, is somewhat limited.

    I am in the process of making my Note 4 self aware.
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    05-02-2015 11:12 AM
  9. Duard's Avatar
    I'm in the Note series because (1) screen size (2) replaceable battery (3) s-pen. If the battery were sealed, without question I would be evaluating other large-screen devices. Pen would be desirable but not required and price would be a factor.
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    05-03-2015 08:54 AM
  10. lee Tovell's Avatar
    I moved from iPhone to the note 4 for a fue reasons screen size . Removable battery . The fact it don't have to depend on iTunes . Spen and the thing which won me expandable memory. If the note 5 don't have an sd slot I'll have to revaluate hait the push to online storage

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    05-03-2015 02:39 PM
  11. 1812dave's Avatar
    I think I'll just sit down and cry if the N5 has a sealed battery! LOL! Seriously though, I will so pissed at Samsung if they do that, that for the first time in years, I will look to other vendors for my next phone. What I want in my next phone is so similar to the Note 2 except for a battery camera and screen brightness and a bit more resolution. I want the Note 5 to hit at least 750 nits when outdoors, like the Note 4. I don't really "need" much in the way of additional features. The S5 doesn't have anywhere near the same brightness as the Note 4, btw.
    05-03-2015 02:53 PM
  12. juliesdroidsync's Avatar
    Not correct, lithium ion batteries don't suffer the memory effect and should not degrade over time. All of my previous Android phones still take the same charge as day one. This myth needs to be put to rest.
    I don't care whether they do or do not suffer a memory effect, or if they should or should not degrade over time . They do in fact degrade.

    At least, that is my experience with multiple batteries. And no, I don't know why, but it happens to me on every phone that I've had, droid 1, Droid 2, galaxy s3, galaxy s5, note 3. I do believe all of them had lithium ion batteries, at least the three Samsung phones did.

    I realize that comments on battery life can be very subjective, but when you go from only having to put your phone on a charger at night to not being able to make it through the middle of the afternoon on a consistent basis, and you haven't changed anything or added any new apps, I believe it is safe to say that your battery has degraded for some reason, whether it's because of a memory effect or not.

    Maybe they're overheating because I use them too much, or because I live in the south, who knows?

    It's not a myth if it's happening to you! Just ask your average iPhone user who's had their phone over 6 months and can't get through half a day without finding a charger, because I know plenty of people in that boat :-)
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    05-03-2015 06:13 PM
  13. juliesdroidsync's Avatar
    Battery technology is different these days and batteries don't degrade as quick. Research it. Had my S4 for 2 years. It's battery is still as strong as before. If what you said was true, why do people buy IPhone?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    I have no doubt that they are better than they used to be. And I don't really understand what makes them degrade, but I promise you it does happen to me. I do use my phone a lot though and I use it for work, so I imagine that that has something to do with it. I can only tell you this is my experience, but I really can't tell you why... :-)
    05-03-2015 06:16 PM
  14. juliesdroidsync's Avatar
    Thank you! I believe everyone was starting to think I was crazy :-)
    05-03-2015 06:17 PM
  15. Adawg1203's Avatar
    No... batteries begin to degrade after about 6 months of heavy use. We should be allowed to replace them. A bum battery will make your phone worth nothing for resale...
    I'll be looking elsewhere...

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    Define heavy use. I have never had a battery degrade (noticeably) after 6 months.
    05-03-2015 06:49 PM
  16. juliesdroidsync's Avatar
    Define heavy use. I have never had a battery degrade (noticeably) after 6 months.
    Yes, I guess even the statement "heavy use" is subjective. My average day is something like this... we have a fishing resort.

    My phone starts going off with text messages or calls about 6 am for people needing shuttles, employees that can't come in because they have car problems, or customers needing something before we open at 7 am.

    Then, I'm calling and texting fishing guides to schedule trips, and answering questions via text and phone calls for housekeeping.

    Then, I'm taking video of customers and uploading to youtube, sending and receiving photos from customers, and posting them to my various social media streams via Hootsuite, and assigning tasks to office staff, via Gmail usually, and answering questions and phone calls from my husband.

    And to keep my life straight, I'm using Evernote a bunch lately. Oh, and every time I get into a vehicle to shuttle somewhere, it has my entire music library so I can listen to music, connected through bluetooth to my vehicle's radio.

    At night, it's my primary reader for Kindle books. Then, before I go to bed, I run the White Noise app, connected to a bluetooth speaker all night so I can sleep. (I usually put it on the charger while I'm in the shower in the morning, then start all over again.)

    So, I really do use it throughout the entire day, as it is part of my workflow, and part of my life, really. And yes, my batteries degrade, noticeably, after about 6 months.
    05-03-2015 08:24 PM
  17. jsreen's Avatar
    I currently own the Note 3 and since my 2 year contract renewed when I purchased it, I was kinda forced to skip the 4 and wait for the 5. I too carry a spare battery with me and love the fact that I can change it out in just a minute or two and be ready to go again. If the 5 is sealed it may change my decision on buying it. I do use the S-pen regularly for work though, so there is that to consider as well. I guess for me, I'll have to wait and see how the pros and cons measure up.

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    05-04-2015 10:21 AM
  18. natehoy's Avatar
    8-10 hours of screen on time? There is nothing that even comes close to that now.
    Right, which is exactly why I don't want to commit to something that has 5 hours of screen-on time today, which is barely adequate for my own personal needs (your needs may differ), knowing that within a couple of years my ongoing heavy use of the battery means I'm down to 3.5 or 4 hours of screen time and I have to start carrying around an external battery to get through the day.

    But as far as the 8 hours screen time not being available.... If your phone has a removable back cover, it is most certainly available - provided you are willing to carry a heavier phone, which is a trade-off for sure. But a trade-off many are willing to make.

    Amazon.com: Samsung Galaxy Note 4 8000mAh Extended Battery. Hyperion High Capacity 8000mAh Extended Battery and Back Cover for the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 / IV **Now with NFC!** (Compatible all Galaxy Note 4 [SM-N910 & SM-N915] US and International Ver

    Amazon.com: [180 Days Warranty] Zerolemon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 10000mah Extended Battery + NFC + Rugged Black Zero Shock Hybrid Protection Case - World's Highest Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Capacity Battery with World's Only Universal Form Fitting

    I had an HTC Thunderbolt. Had to carry it for two years because it was a corporate issue phone and the company would neither replace it nor allow me to BYOD. Battery life was under 3 hours of screen on time the day I got it and down to 2.5 hours after 6 months. $40 and a heavier phone later, I had a 6-hour screen on time, and that battery lasted a lot longer (possibly because I wasn't discharging it to phone shutdown twice a day).
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    05-04-2015 10:32 AM
  19. Dominick079's Avatar
    If the Note 5 has a non removable battery and no expandable storage it will still be my next device. I will just have to pay more for the 64 GB version instead of getting the 32 GB version. The Note 4 has amazing battery life and I upgrade my phone every year so a non removable battery is irrelevant to me.

    Posted via the AT&T Note 4
    05-04-2015 05:35 PM
  20. MsBlingberry's Avatar
    Then for me that's it, done! Expandable storage and removable batteries are deal breakers for me.

    Posted via my awesome N4
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    05-05-2015 09:14 AM
  21. bigsmoke79's Avatar
    I'd look elsewhere possibly LG, I use both alot especially my spare battery! I like the freedom of being able to change my battery, I think Apple and other companies used sealed in batteries to make you upgrade after they won't hold their full charge after a couple of years and I don't like that.

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    05-05-2015 01:38 PM
  22. thegame161's Avatar
    Yeah

    If all else fails I will keep note 4 as a backup
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    05-05-2015 01:54 PM
  23. Ranny99's Avatar
    I think the bigger worry will be when they lock the launcher option down, only touchwizz and the complete Samsung experience.
    05-05-2015 02:03 PM
  24. natehoy's Avatar
    I think the bigger worry will be when they lock the launcher option down, only touchwizz and the complete Samsung experience.
    I suppose that could happen. They could hardcode the default "home button" activity in and make it so you can't clear it. I would think any move in that direction would be met with a tsunami of nerd rage.
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    05-05-2015 03:18 PM
  25. Ranny99's Avatar
    I'm more thinking along the lines that they want to differentiate their products from the rest of the Android devices. To compete with Apple directly and not just one of many.

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    05-05-2015 03:27 PM
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