05-11-2015 04:44 PM
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  1. BullGuard8's Avatar
    So as I am awaiting for a tech support agent from One Click Root to login to my laptop and root my Android which is on Kit Kat 4.4.4 at the moment, when rooted, what shall I do to disable the automatic OS update but keep the regular updates for the apps? I only want the apps to get updated but to disable the OS update and never see any notification about this Lollipop
    05-11-2015 12:02 PM
  2. NexusGirlX's Avatar
    You don't need to do anything because checking for the OS update will warn you that you can not upgrade because the software has been modified.

    You can still get all your app updates in the play store.

    And why are you paying someone to root your phone? I would not trust this one click place.
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    05-11-2015 12:10 PM
  3. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    So as I am awaiting for a tech support agent from One Click Root to login to my laptop and root my Android which is on Kit Kat 4.4.4 at the moment, when rooted, what shall I do to disable the automatic OS update but keep the regular updates for the apps? I only want the apps to get updated but to disable the OS update and never see any notification about this Lollipop
    Well with my S5, I had to freeze the updater app. After root, and hopefully you will also have SuperSU on your phone, you need an app to freeze the updater so it doesn't even check or try and download. This is firmware and carrier updates only.

    Titanium Backup, paid version will freeze apps. I never bought that, I just needed to freeze that one app. I used this app, the free version:

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...arantine&hl=en

    I had it show the system files and then quarantined the updater. I was getting notifications of updates and it was downloading but of course the install wouldn't go through. This free app stopped it from ever trying again.
    05-11-2015 12:12 PM
  4. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    You don't need to do anything because checking for the OS update will warn you that you can not upgrade because the software has been modified.

    You can still get all your app updates in the play store.

    And why are you paying someone to root your phone? I would not trust this one click place.
    With AT&T at least, it will keep telling you there is an update and eventually download and try to install it, though the install will fail.
    05-11-2015 12:13 PM
  5. BullGuard8's Avatar
    You don't need to do anything because checking for the OS update will warn you that you can not upgrade because the software has been modified.

    You can still get all your app updates in the play store.

    And why are you paying someone to root your phone? I would not trust this one click place.
    perfect, so at the moment it has downloaded the update as I am not rooted yet, where can I find this download cache of the update to also delete it?
    05-11-2015 12:13 PM
  6. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    perfect, so at the moment it has downloaded the update as I am not rooted yet, where can I find this download cache of the update to also delete it?
    These questions might be a little "techy" for here, not sure. I didn't see a root forum for the N4, since rooting is not something all variants can do. NexusGirl would know more about that, but in the past, detailed root posts, went to the root subforum for the device.

    If this is still the case concerning detailed root info, xda has a ton of info, variant specific.
    05-11-2015 12:16 PM
  7. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Oh and I have to add..I wouldn't trust a place to root my phone either. I would hit xda and find the root thread for my variant and you will find EASY instructions and files you need.
    05-11-2015 12:17 PM
  8. NexusGirlX's Avatar
    perfect, so at the moment it has downloaded the update as I am not rooted yet, where can I find this download cache of the update to also delete it?
    I would go to the XDA forums and ask there. I never had to worry about this on my T-Mobile Note 4.
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    05-11-2015 12:17 PM
  9. BullGuard8's Avatar
    Here is the thing, since I already had the notification since I wasn't rooted when I first setup my phone on Kit Kat, the notification never goes away. So after the root, I did a security wipe and disabled Knox the moment I booted to the home screen via Super SU and this way I never saw the update again and I disabled auto updates!
    05-11-2015 12:57 PM
  10. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Here is the thing, since I already had the notification since I wasn't rooted when I first setup my phone on Kit Kat, the notification never goes away. So after the root, I did a security wipe and disabled Knox the moment I booted to the home screen via Super SU and this way I never saw the update again and I disabled auto updates!
    Yeah, I had to disable the auto-updates, but did it after Lollipop came out.

    Also, you are sure they didn't trip Knox, right?
    05-11-2015 01:06 PM
  11. NexusGirlX's Avatar
    Yeah, I had to disable the auto-updates, but did it after Lollipop came out.

    Also, you are sure they didn't trip Knox, right?
    I don't think that it is possible to not trip knox so that the warranty is voided on the Note 4.
    05-11-2015 01:20 PM
  12. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I don't think that it is possible to not trip knox so that the warranty is voided on the Note 4.
    It is with some, like T-Mobile, I've heard the Verizon one also sometimes.

    Also, I can't remember for sure, but I'm thinking his phone came from Dubai, so probably not locked down like the US ones are, ones from other countries usually aren't.

    Also I think if you roll back to KitKat and root, totally possible to root without tripping Knox on the N4. Lollipop was the big problem.
    05-11-2015 01:33 PM
  13. NexusGirlX's Avatar
    It is with some, like T-Mobile, I've heard the Verizon one also sometimes.

    Also, I can't remember for sure, but I'm thinking his phone came from Dubai, so probably not locked down like the US ones are, ones from other countries usually aren't.

    Also I think if you roll back to KitKat and root, totally possible to root without tripping Knox on the N4. Lollipop was the big problem.
    All the warnings I read on YouTube and XDA said that knox would be tripped that would void the warranty and there was no way around that. I had no problem with that.

    As far as other Samsung phones, I read it is possible to root the S6 phones without tripping knox.
    05-11-2015 01:44 PM
  14. BullGuard8's Avatar
    All the warnings I read on YouTube and XDA said that knox would be tripped that would void the warranty and there was no way around that. I had no problem with that.

    As far as other Samsung phones, I read it is possible to root the S6 phones without tripping knox.
    1) What does trip Knox mean? Im a noobie

    2) I would rather use my phone with no warranty than to ever install Lollipop again! you don't understand how happy I am that I'm back on my Kit Kat, the OS that I bought the phone with and was super happy with at the time. Then came the lollipop and spoiled my smoothness, my battery life, everything!!

    3) In all the years I have owned phones, I never ever used warranty, warranty is for n00bs no offense who don't know how to install an OS / software. But usually, in my case, my phone always worked fine, software wise I can figure it out on forums. I have a Ballistic Case to protect the phone with a glass screen protector and even if I didn't, warranty wouldn't cover physical damage so. IMHO warranty is overrated
    05-11-2015 01:55 PM
  15. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    All the warnings I read on YouTube and XDA said that knox would be tripped that would void the warranty and there was no way around that. I had no problem with that.

    As far as other Samsung phones, I read it is possible to root the S6 phones without tripping knox.
    You could be correct on that, I'm not sure on that. When I got my Note 4, Lollipop was out and rooting was out of the question with Lollipop.

    GENERALLY, since they could do it with the S5 and KitKat without tripping it, then odds are they could with the N4, but that is no guarantee. I didn't research it on the N4 after I found out my variant can't be rooted yet.

    I'm not saying it is a fact you could do it, just working on past knowledge and how it usually works. Also, the S5 was on 4.4.2, the N4 might have been on 4.4.4 and that could be a different story than 4.4.2.
    05-11-2015 01:57 PM
  16. NexusGirlX's Avatar
    1) What does trip Knox mean? Im a noobie

    2) I would rather use my phone with no warranty than to ever install Lollipop again! you don't understand how happy I am that I'm back on my Kit Kat, the OS that I bought the phone with and was super happy with at the time. Then came the lollipop and spoiled my smoothness, my battery life, everything!!

    3) In all the years I have owned phones, I never ever used warranty, warranty is for n00bs no offense who don't know how to install an OS / software. But usually, in my case, my phone always worked fine, software wise I can figure it out on forums. I have a Ballistic Case to protect the phone with a glass screen protector and even if I didn't, warranty wouldn't cover physical damage so. IMHO warranty is overrated
    Knox basically keeps track of how many times you have flashed a custom ROM other than the official version (KitKat shouldn't do that) and it changes the indicator from 0 to 1 to show that it has been rooted so the warranty is then voided.
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    05-11-2015 02:01 PM
  17. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    1) What does trip Knox mean? Im a noobie

    2) I would rather use my phone with no warranty than to ever install Lollipop again! you don't understand how happy I am that I'm back on my Kit Kat, the OS that I bought the phone with and was super happy with at the time. Then came the lollipop and spoiled my smoothness, my battery life, everything!!

    3) In all the years I have owned phones, I never ever used warranty, warranty is for n00bs no offense who don't know how to install an OS / software. But usually, in my case, my phone always worked fine, software wise I can figure it out on forums. I have a Ballistic Case to protect the phone with a glass screen protector and even if I didn't, warranty wouldn't cover physical damage so. IMHO warranty is overrated
    Trip Knox means it shows you rooted it, even if you flashed it back. Many times Samsung won't even touch it, with you paying, if you trip Knox.

    Also it means, the free flash that Samsung Experience, Samsung and some carrier warranty stores will do, they won't even flash for you if you have tripped Knox, and some of them check.

    Actually warranty is to cover things that should be lasting a year or longer lol.

    My N3 had to go into repair for warranty, the motherboard went out. My N2 had to be traded in under warranty, the SIM card reader stopped working.

    That had nothing to do installing anything.

    Years ago, my first Android wouldn't even turn on after T-Mobile forced a Froyo update on me. That had to be replaced under warranty.
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    05-11-2015 02:02 PM
  18. NexusGirlX's Avatar
    You could be correct on that, I'm not sure on that. When I got my Note 4, Lollipop was out and rooting was out of the question with Lollipop.

    GENERALLY, since they could do it with the S5 and KitKat without tripping it, then odds are they could with the N4, but that is no guarantee. I didn't research it on the N4 after I found out my variant can't be rooted yet.

    I'm not saying it is a fact you could do it, just working on past knowledge and how it usually works. Also, the S5 was on 4.4.2, the N4 might have been on 4.4.4 and that could be a different story than 4.4.2.
    Read about Knox here:

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/sam...-0x1-perm.html

    It explains why it can't be reset. It's for the Note 3 and the Note 4 is really no different.
    05-11-2015 02:06 PM
  19. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Read about Knox here:

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/sam...-0x1-perm.html

    It explains why it can't be reset. It's for the Note 3 and the Note 4 is really no different.
    Never said Knox could be reset..
    05-11-2015 02:10 PM
  20. bassplayrguy's Avatar
    1) What does trip Knox mean? Im a noobie

    2) I would rather use my phone with no warranty than to ever install Lollipop again! you don't understand how happy I am that I'm back on my Kit Kat, the OS that I bought the phone with and was super happy with at the time. Then came the lollipop and spoiled my smoothness, my battery life, everything!!

    3) In all the years I have owned phones, I never ever used warranty, warranty is for n00bs no offense who don't know how to install an OS / software. But usually, in my case, my phone always worked fine, software wise I can figure it out on forums. I have a Ballistic Case to protect the phone with a glass screen protector and even if I didn't, warranty wouldn't cover physical damage so. IMHO warranty is overrated
    Warranty is coverage typically for hardware, not so much on the software side. I am a mechanic and could replace the engine or trans in my truck myself, but I am glad they are both covered. I guess I don't follow your logic.
    05-11-2015 02:12 PM
  21. NexusGirlX's Avatar
    Never said Knox could be reset..
    I'm aware of that. I just posted that because it mentions that it will be tripped when rooting. I have read that it began with the Note 3.
    05-11-2015 02:12 PM
  22. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I'm aware of that. I just posted that because it mentions that it will be tripped when rooting. I have read that it began with the Note 3.
    Oh..no, the S5 on KitKat was able to root without tripping. My Samsung guy even checked mine after I unroooted it.

    We had to roll back Kernels and then Odin the Samsung tar. It was able to be done not long ago. I bought my S5 last November and rooted it a couple months later and I using the AT&T method thread at xda, it didn't trip Knox.

    Also, I never did flash any ROM that wasn't the official Samsung. Don't know if that makes a difference. I just rooted to be able to delete bloatware.
    05-11-2015 02:18 PM
  23. NexusGirlX's Avatar
    Oh..no, the S5 on KitKat was able to root without tripping. My Samsung guy even checked mine after I unroooted it.

    We had to roll back Kernels and then Odin the Samsung tar. It was able to be done not long ago. I bought my S5 last November and rooted it a couple months later and I using the AT&T method thread at xda, it didn't trip Knox.

    Also, I never did flash any ROM that wasn't the official Samsung. Don't know if that makes a difference. I just rooted to be able to delete bloatware.
    But remember, the S series phones are different from the Note phones. The s6 can also be rooted now without tripping Knox but the next firmware version may very well prevent that.
    05-11-2015 02:29 PM
  24. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    But remember, the S series phones are different from the Note phones. The s6 can also be rooted now without tripping Knox but the next firmware version may very well prevent that.
    Yes I understand that.

    The rooting was for 4.4.4, which S4 owners said tripped their Knox, but it didn't for S5 owners.

    [How-To] Root G900A_OA1 - 4.4.4 (2/3/2015) | AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5 | XDA Forums
    05-11-2015 02:38 PM
  25. Sweet Pikake's Avatar
    But remember, the S series phones are different from the Note phones. The s6 can also be rooted now without tripping Knox but the next firmware version may very well prevent that.
    Am I glad to see you're able to direct traffic
    05-11-2015 03:59 PM
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