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  1. Jude526's Avatar
    Not having removable battery and SD card are definitely deal breakers for me.
    My Note 4 is fine. Battery life not the best since the update but everything else is good.

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    07-26-2015 05:46 PM
  2. taife32's Avatar
    At this point non-removable battery and no SD card support is not my main problem. My problem is being abandoned by Samsung. Here in South Africa, the Note 4 is still on Kitkat. That is just stupid for Samsung to abandon a current device like this.

    I downloaded the German ROM of lollipop and it worked well for a while besides the irritating Recent Apps lag. But a month later, the phone stopped reading my SD card, it didn't matter if I formatted it. So I installed Cyanogenmod 12.1 (Android 5.1.1) and everything works perfectly and the phone is ultra smooth, oh and my SD card works just fine.

    Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk
    jimd1050 likes this.
    07-27-2015 11:38 AM
  3. mrtactilefeedback's Avatar
    I just bought the Note 4. I appreciate the removable back. Not that I need to change out batteries very often, but on a trip... at least I have the option. Yes, like most of us I put a protective cover on the back of my phone, so I have to remove both the cover, then the back of the phone to get at the battery and/or memory card. Glad then that I don't need to do this very often, right?!! But what impressed me the most (on the Note 4) was the cost savings on the SD memory, because I get to install that myself. If I had to decide between a 32GB, 64GB, or 128GB fixed amount of memory (in a Note 5 purchase) I would have paid about $100 for each 32GB increment (so $300 to get to 128GB). I bought my Note 4 (with the standard 32GB internal storage) and then online I purchased a quality (level 10) 128GB micro SD for only $75. That's a big savings right there. Also, Samsung is giving a $200 rebate (during July/August 2015) if you paid full amount for the phone. So all-said-and-done I'm getting a Note 4 w/ 32GB+128GB for about $600 (you have to figure in taxes). Down-side thoughts on my Note 4 purchase - soon my provider will stop upgrading my OS for me and, I'll have to do that myself (oh well, it happens with them all eventually). Then of course... if you really want the newest thing... Note 5. I'm sure you will enjoy the new stylish look, USB C, bigger battery, improved sound?...
    KJ78 likes this.
    07-27-2015 05:51 PM
  4. f5air's Avatar
    there is always a person who will need more, its like high hp cars.. you always search for more, but in this case for me, i used iphone 4, then 4s, 5, galaxy s4 and not the note 4 which is for me by far the best phone i have. It makes my business and job much more easy due all the improvement and options which allows me to work less with the same results.
    07-27-2015 10:54 PM
  5. qbnkelt's Avatar
    I won't upgrade this year. I'll use my Note 4 as long as I can.
    I hate this move to make all phones with sealed batteries.
    I'll skip this year and pray for them to give me a user replaceable battery in 2016.

    Sent from my gorgeous sexy white BEAST of a Note 4 ❤
    DocB1973 and dorrien12 like this.
    07-28-2015 09:11 AM
  6. jrsharp70's Avatar
    4GB would be a 25% upgrade in memory. My Note 4 is frequently using up a lot of the ram (most of it from the Touch wiz) and that extra gig would make it so 20 chrome tabs wouldn't slow it down at all.
    It would be 33% more RAM

    Posted via the Android Central App
    07-28-2015 10:23 AM
  7. smoothrunnings's Avatar
    No. The battery is close to being the deal breaker. And if there's also no SD card slot, that's definitely a broken deal.

    4GB? Not enough of a change to warrant anything if you're really into multitasking. 6, maybe.
    Why would you want a MicroSD slot when all the MicroSD memory is slow as a turtle? Samsung's memory is at least twice as fast if not more compared to the current MicroSD cards. I may not buy a Note 5 as I have a Note 4 but I do like what Samsung has done with their new phones.
    07-28-2015 12:05 PM
  8. smoothrunnings's Avatar
    I just bought the Note 4. I appreciate the removable back. Not that I need to change out batteries very often, but on a trip... at least I have the option. Yes, like most of us I put a protective cover on the back of my phone, so I have to remove both the cover, then the back of the phone to get at the battery and/or memory card. Glad then that I don't need to do this very often, right?!! But what impressed me the most (on the Note 4) was the cost savings on the SD memory, because I get to install that myself. If I had to decide between a 32GB, 64GB, or 128GB fixed amount of memory (in a Note 5 purchase) I would have paid about $100 for each 32GB increment (so $300 to get to 128GB). I bought my Note 4 (with the standard 32GB internal storage) and then online I purchased a quality (level 10) 128GB micro SD for only $75. That's a big savings right there. Also, Samsung is giving a $200 rebate (during July/August 2015) if you paid full amount for the phone. So all-said-and-done I'm getting a Note 4 w/ 32GB+128GB for about $600 (you have to figure in taxes). Down-side thoughts on my Note 4 purchase - soon my provider will stop upgrading my OS for me and, I'll have to do that myself (oh well, it happens with them all eventually). Then of course... if you really want the newest thing... Note 5. I'm sure you will enjoy the new stylish look, USB C, bigger battery, improved sound?...
    Your 128GB MicroSD card is 5 times slower or more than Samsung's 128GB built in memory. You forget Samsung is a GIANT company is produces a lot of stuff, including memory. They have over 450,000 people working for them and have their own city. They don't cheap out on their stuff. Granted you want cheap out using something that isn't as good like a MicroSD 128GB in the end it's their choice whether to let you cheap out.
    07-28-2015 12:09 PM
  9. Rmedy21's Avatar
    We all have our different opinions on things. Not everyone is going to like what business are doing or the direction they are heading in. I personally had the S6 and returned it back the next day. It just was not for me. I like the note 4 so I went back to it. Now can I say I will upgrade no. The device has to be mind blowing in order for me to really want it. Samsung is just trying to copy Apple way too much. Samsung keeps coming out with so many of the same variant. Samsung is its own worse enemy that's my opinion.

    Quote The Note 4 Never More😤
    07-28-2015 12:44 PM
  10. muzzy996's Avatar
    Your 128GB MicroSD card is 5 times slower or more than Samsung's 128GB built in memory. You forget Samsung is a GIANT company is produces a lot of stuff, including memory. They have over 450,000 people working for them and have their own city. They don't cheap out on their stuff. Granted you want cheap out using something that isn't as good like a MicroSD 128GB in the end it's their choice whether to let you cheap out.
    Speed isn't always important. Don't get me wrong, I haven't jumped to 128gb cards due to lack of speed but even I recognize that not all use cases require it. It may take a buttload of time to fill a 128gb card with movies and music but once the files are there the read speed is plenty quick enough to support playback. Those who transfer apps to SD however. ...well... I've never had the need. ..but yes that would be a problem.

    Sent from my SM-P900 using Tapatalk
    07-28-2015 12:47 PM
  11. smoothrunnings's Avatar
    Speed isn't always important. Don't get me wrong, I haven't jumped to 128gb cards due to lack of speed but even I recognize that not all use cases require it. It may take a buttload of time to fill a 128gb card with movies and music but once the files are there the read speed is plenty quick enough to support playback. Those who transfer apps to SD however. ...well... I've never had the need. ..but yes that would be a problem.

    Sent from my SM-P900 using Tapatalk
    Speed and reliability are important when it comes to MicroSD cards. Anyone who said they aren't is just fooling themselves.
    Carrtman likes this.
    07-28-2015 01:05 PM
  12. hdhuntr's Avatar
    I love my GN4 but Samsung is wearing me out with all the mandatory SW and stuff. I may eventually check out other Android brands. The whole Samsung war against customers rooting as well as forcing vendors on us and giving us lame versions of stuff we don't want (like their app store) are just annoying.
    I used to be a freak about storage and battery but I have only pulled the battery a couple times on the GN4 and the on board storage has been enough.
    Rmedy21 likes this.
    07-28-2015 02:01 PM
  13. Rmedy21's Avatar
    I love my GN4 but Samsung is wearing me out with all the mandatory SW and stuff. I may eventually check out other Android brands. The whole Samsung war against customers rooting as well as forcing vendors on us and giving us lame versions of stuff we don't want (like their app store) are just annoying.
    I used to be a freak about storage and battery but I have only pulled the battery a couple times on the GN4 and the on board storage has been enough.
    I will be waiting to see what other new phones come out. At least for me it's time for something new and different.

    Quote The Note 4 Never More😤
    MalinoisK9 likes this.
    07-28-2015 02:15 PM
  14. hdhuntr's Avatar
    Getting the feeling...went to look at Nexus right after my OP

    I will be waiting to see what other new phones come out. At least for me it's time for something new and different.

    Quote The Note 4 Never More������
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    07-28-2015 02:17 PM
  15. MedicD's Avatar
    I don't need wicked fast speeds to watch even a 4k video. My Note 4 plays back my 4k recorded content no problem on my SanDisk 64GB UHS 1 card
    07-28-2015 09:45 PM
  16. Carrtman's Avatar
    Speed and reliability are important when it comes to MicroSD cards. Anyone who said they aren't is just fooling themselves.
    Reliability yes speed no, my sd card is fast enough for all my music and videos. Pictures are loaded almost instantly and I don't care about that ufs crap.

    I also need my backups, roms on the sd card. I really can't understand why would let companies spy on their content and also pay for it I.e. Using the cloud
    07-28-2015 10:11 PM
  17. muzzy996's Avatar
    Speed and reliability are important when it comes to MicroSD cards. Anyone who said they aren't is just fooling themselves.
    I don't know why you threw reliability into your statement when quoting me, I said nothing about reliability . .
    07-29-2015 01:48 PM
  18. hdhuntr's Avatar
    I don't know anyone who pays for cloud access. I certainly don't. I also don't put anything up there that I care whether anyone sees or not. From a technical standpoint the stuff on your sd card is probably not a lot more secure than the cloud stuff anyway. If you do backups it's probably kind of out there. The way this tech stuff works now I try to not have or do anything I don't want others to see and I also just hope to be lost in the crowd. If you ever have a nasty divorce that has the word "discovery" involved a lot you'll completely give up the notions of "security" and "privacy" and just hope big brother lion eats the lamb next to you instead of you.

    Reliability yes speed no, my sd card is fast enough for all my music and videos. Pictures are loaded almost instantly and I don't care about that ufs crap.

    I also need my backups, roms on the sd card. I really can't understand why would let companies spy on their content and also pay for it I.e. Using the cloud
    Kelly Kearns likes this.
    07-29-2015 02:26 PM
  19. godzillinois's Avatar
    At this point non-removable battery and no SD card support is not my main problem. My problem is being abandoned by Samsung. Here in South Africa, the Note 4 is still on Kitkat. That is just stupid for Samsung to abandon a current device like this.

    I downloaded the German ROM of lollipop and it worked well for a while besides the irritating Recent Apps lag. But a month later, the phone stopped reading my SD card, it didn't matter if I formatted it. So I installed Cyanogenmod 12.1 (Android 5.1.1) and everything works perfectly and the phone is ultra smooth, oh and my SD card works just fine.

    Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk
    You should feel lucky my friend, the Lollipop upgrade killed alot of people's battery life (including me.) I'd love to be able to downgrade to KitKat without ROOT
    07-29-2015 03:59 PM
  20. godzillinois's Avatar
    Why would you want a MicroSD slot when all the MicroSD memory is slow as a turtle? Samsung's memory is at least twice as fast if not more compared to the current MicroSD cards. I may not buy a Note 5 as I have a Note 4 but I do like what Samsung has done with their new phones.
    I keep all the photos and videos I take on my SD card, (and some apps) and I have no problems accessing them at all. Pretty much instantaneous. Doing that also frees the rest of my phone's storage, and 32GB is really all I need for that. It's silly to discount the option of expandable storage, who the heck would turn down more room?

    "Hey your phone comes with 32GB of storage, but would you like a free Micro SD card slot for additional storage?"

    "No, it's too slow." :/
    07-29-2015 04:04 PM
  21. godzillinois's Avatar
    The reason I bought my Note 4 was because of the expandable memory and open battery slot (and the pen pressure sensitivity of course.) I might be tempted if there was a MicroSD slot, but I switch my batteries daily so unless the new battery lasts 2 days or a day and a half that’s a dealbreaker to me even with a MicroSD slot. Glass back? Fragile and almost pointless for the majority of people who buy cases for their phones. Tiered-pricing storage options? Bad idea, even worse if it doesn’t come with a Micro SD slot. Now we’re back to Samsung copying Apple instead of the other way around?

    This is disheartening considering that I was hoping to upgrade next year to a marked down, year old Note 5 once my contract is up. Hopefully they bring things back to normal with the Note 6, and that it won’t get any bigger. I have enough problems fitting my phone in some of my pants, I have no need to carry an iPad Mini-sized “pocket” phone. Even if they bring back expandable options with the Note 6 it will suck to have to wait another 2 years for a new phone. Just bought a Gear 2 Neo too, I was going all-in with this Samsung thing after switching from an iPhone :/
    taife32 likes this.
    07-29-2015 04:05 PM
  22. taife32's Avatar
    You should feel lucky my friend, the Lollipop upgrade killed alot of people's battery life (including me.) I'd love to be able to downgrade to KitKat without ROOT
    If you download a stock Kitkat ROM for your device and region from Sammobile.com and then reset your phone and wipe Cache. Then flash the Kitkat ROM using ODIN, it should take you back to Kitkat without rooting.

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    godzillinois likes this.
    07-29-2015 04:33 PM
  23. Duard's Avatar
    Hi. I'm planning to move from note 2 yo note 4 soon. Would have gone to note 5 but nonremovable battery is a deal breaker
    qbnkelt likes this.
    07-30-2015 01:01 AM
  24. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I keep all the photos and videos I take on my SD card, (and some apps) and I have no problems accessing them at all. Pretty much instantaneous. Doing that also frees the rest of my phone's storage, and 32GB is really all I need for that. It's silly to discount the option of expandable storage, who the heck would turn down more room?

    "Hey your phone comes with 32GB of storage, but would you like a free Micro SD card slot for additional storage?"

    "No, it's too slow." :/
    All my videos and pictures are on free unlimited cloud and I access them instantaneously. Also if my card fails, I don't lose my picture and videos.
    jimd1050 likes this.
    08-20-2015 09:41 AM
  25. scribe4food's Avatar
    Im not upgrading to the Note 5, at least not yet. I'm waiting to see what the other manufactures will do. There are a lot of great rumors going around the horn.

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    08-20-2015 01:35 PM
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