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  1. dorrien12's Avatar
    Yep no removable battery is a deal breaker. I have plenty of external batteries from my iPhone days, that headache now belongs to my son. I have the Note 3, if the Note 5 is indeed sealed then I'll get the Note 4
    07-14-2015 11:52 AM
  2. dorrien12's Avatar
    To those saying "NO WAY!!!!" I'll ask you this: What are you going to go to as an alternative? Yes, you can stay on your Note 3/4 for longer, but after that?

    The industry is starting to move away from both SD cards and easily swappable batteries. There are several reasons why both are going extinct, but the fact remains that OEMs are still dropping them. Phones that have either (nevermind both) will get fewer and far between.

    The Note 5 will most likely have 128G internal options. Yes, not quite the same as having a potentially unlimited supply of sd cards to swap in and out, but with... maybe something in the range of 115G available. Need more, USB OTG is available if needed. As for the battery thing. Yes, the battery might be fixed, but from everything I've read, we should expect a sizable bump in the battery's size, and between improvements in hardware efficiency, that could lead to a considerable improvement in performance. If you still need more... the market is now filled with Quick Charge capable external battery packs...

    I understand that these might not be an ideal solution for many of you. But you have two options here; rage against the dying of the light, or adapt your usage and move ahead.
    Back in the 90's there were phones with removable batteries, then they started sealing them in, then they went back to removable. And now they are sealing them again, what goes around comes around. If the people tell the manufacturers what they want by not settling then they will keep making the phones with removable batteries.

    Of course if we don't have any choices then we use what we can find that we like. But I'm not gonna settle right NOW and go BACK to using external batteries. I will not buy it and make my voice heard and if enough people do it, it will work. So for now it's about trying to keep options. If enough people passed on it, Samsung would get the message. People want options.

    If the manufacturers don't listen, then we will deal with that later.
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    07-14-2015 11:56 AM
  3. clevin's Avatar
    No removable battery and no expandable storage? These are reasons why I went with the note 4 in the first place. I swap out batteries at least 3 to 4 times a week...the Note 5 will have to definitely dazzle me to get rid of these options...I love my note 4!

    Posted via my Note 4
    Agreed, it seems I will just stick to my note 3 until it dies, then maybe a note 4. Will never but a phone without removable battery and sd.
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    07-14-2015 12:26 PM
  4. mclarryjr's Avatar
    Agreed, it seems I will just stick to my note 3 until it dies, then maybe a note 4. Will never but a phone without removable battery and sd.
    This is just my opinion and best guess but I see the removable battery a thing of the past that will be gone on all phones in the near future. Now I could be completely wrong but I'm assuming many more users never use that feature than do. Not to sure what the future is on the sdcards but would assume they won't be around for ever, but longer then the removable batteries.
    07-14-2015 01:04 PM
  5. clevin's Avatar
    This is just my opinion and best guess but I see the removable battery a thing of the past that will be gone on all phones in the near future. Now I could be completely wrong but I'm assuming many more users never use that feature than do. Not to sure what the future is on the sdcards but would assume they won't be around for ever, but longer then the removable batteries.
    could be, especially for high end phones. I am just glad my note 3 is still in excellent condition (after a battery replacement) and I, hopefully, don't need to upgrade for another few years.
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    07-14-2015 01:41 PM
  6. philip42's Avatar
    This is just my opinion and best guess but I see the removable battery a thing of the past that will be gone on all phones in the near future. Now I could be completely wrong but I'm assuming many more users never use that feature than do. Not to sure what the future is on the sdcards but would assume they won't be around for ever, but longer then the removable batteries.
    Surely it's normal to want to sell your phone after say, 2 years use. Who's going to want to buy a paper weight with a knackered battery?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    07-14-2015 02:10 PM
  7. mclarryjr's Avatar
    Surely it's normal to want to sell your phone after say, 2 years use. Who's going to want to buy a paper weight with a knackered battery?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    The carriers will buy them back or take em on trade towards a new device. They will have the ability to change out an older battery if needed. With new technology maybe they'll last much longer then 2 years.

    Also the Samsung and the other manufactures don't want their phones lasting to long. They'd rather have you buy a new one ever couple of years. So they have an incentive not to have removable battery's looking at it that way.
    07-14-2015 02:15 PM
  8. jpkerr1's Avatar
    I just got one last week. Bought on Edge through Verizon. I was surprised that they said to register the sale with Samsung's Notable promo for the $200.00 rebate. Didn't think I'd qualify since Edge is paid over time. Verizon pointed out that I am ultimately paying full retail though so the promo applies. I figure if the Note 5 is really hot I can always Early Edge, pay off the Note 4 balance and get a Note 5. Probably sell the Note 4 on Swappa. seems like they hold their value pretty well. The Note 5 will have to be very enticing for me to switch to it, as I'm really liking the Note 4 (Just came from a GS4).
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    07-14-2015 02:17 PM
  9. bassplayrguy's Avatar
    I honestly don't care about micro SD as long as they have a 64gb model, I seriously doubt anyone needs more than 128gb, I have over 3000 songs, bunch of podcasts, strictly record in 4k, take loads of pictures and I have yet to hit 128gb. Secondly, the battery in this phone is supposed to be huge, and the note 4 already has incredible battery life, also with Android M, that already great battery life is going to skyrocket. I don't see why people are complaining.
    Posted from my Galaxy Note 4
    Because no matter what changes are made, ppl are going to complain.
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    07-14-2015 02:21 PM
  10. doohsun's Avatar
    I think it comes down to pricing for me battery and micro sd not a big deal for me. This is really a question about how often you as a user like to change your phone for the newest and the greatest. If you're the type that likes to change their phones every year or 2 then these missing option is really not a huge factor. What you're getting essentially are better hardware and improved camera etc.. But if you're the type that likes to hang on to their phones for more then 3-5 yrs yes battery removal and micro sd are important so every users is different.
    07-14-2015 02:26 PM
  11. Shepx13's Avatar
    The carriers will buy them back or take em on trade towards a new device. They will have the ability to change out an older battery if needed. With new technology maybe they'll last much longer then 2 years.

    Also the Samsung and the other manufactures don't want their phones lasting to long. They'd rather have you buy a new one ever couple of years. So they have an incentive not to have removable battery's looking at it that way.
    Planned obsolescence happened once before, and it didn't turn out well for the Automakers who went down that path. Whether the Android phone makers truly have this in mind or not, all they are doing is chasing more people towards Apple. You can walk into an apple store and walk out with a new battery in an hour, for less than $80. Can't do that on a Samsung or any other phone without a swappable battery.
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    07-14-2015 03:56 PM
  12. killakel77's Avatar
    Hell yeah! I'll just purchase the phone with the most GB
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    07-14-2015 04:31 PM
  13. monsieurms's Avatar
    Another Note 4, it offers me EVERYTHING I expect from a flagship device.
    So far, that would likely be my answer, but we'll see what new LG models have and whether someone steps into the breach.

    To those saying "NO WAY!!!!" I'll ask you this: What are you going to go to as an alternative? Yes, you can stay on your Note 3/4 for longer, but after that?...

    The Note 5 will most likely have 128G internal options. Y
    a) I don't agree that no one ever will ever again offer sd cards and removable batteries. I'd bet to the contrary. As I and others have pointed out, these things do tend to go in cycles. Sticking with the Note 4 for a couple of extra years is just a stopgap.

    b) The Note 5 may or may not have 128g---which means I'd have less than I have now--but it also means PAYING FOR that extra space, which traditionally has not been cheap at those sizes. And then paying for it AGAIN when you get an upgrade and another phone.And then paying for it yet again on your next upgrade, forever and ever.

    On the other hand, I've already paid for my SD card. I just flip into the new phone. Free! And gives me a total of more space. Free + more. That's a pretty easy choice. If that's not enough, the SD card is also already set up the way I want it. It takes about 10 seconds to flip it into a new device. How long will it take to copy, say, 100gb to a Note 5? So, now the actual equation is FREE + MORE SPACE + EASIER SETUP. Boy. These SD cards are really cool. Someone should probably invent a phone that uses them..
    07-14-2015 04:43 PM
  14. dreze88's Avatar
    I definitely won't be getting it with no SD Card support. I just bought a 128gb on Amazon for 60 bucks today. I'll keep my Note 4 until I get bored of it. Then I'll go with an LG G Pro 3 if all the rumors are true. F Samsung, I buy what I want/like, not what they try to force on us.
    07-14-2015 04:57 PM
  15. Nakrohtap's Avatar
    For all of the things people complain about the Note 5, remember that there are "issues" with every phone out there. For issues, I mean what owners do not like about their phone. Their own peeves.
    I would check the other threads first before jumping ship to see what issues others are complaining about. The grass isn't always greener.
    Personally, I don't see how a battery in 2015 will not hold a charge over the lifespan of the device. I have a bigger problem with Samsung not increasing the size of the screen.

    Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
    07-14-2015 05:28 PM
  16. Joshua Luther2's Avatar
    If it weren't for the s-pen on the Note series, it would be an easier decision as to which phone I'm going to get. I'm kind of leaning toward the 2015 Moto X or 2015 Nexus if the Note doesn't have 64gb as the base.

    I've never had this year's phone. I'm tried of getting last year's phone. So those are my three choices.


    Proverbs‬ *16‬:*20‬
    07-14-2015 06:28 PM
  17. ReggieTee's Avatar
    I'll be waiting unitl both the Note 5 and the iPhone 6s Plus to come out before deciding what i'll move to from my Note 4.
    07-14-2015 08:46 PM
  18. Jalopiejoe's Avatar
    I'm still curious how people can just buy new phones every time they come out.
    With the rumor of a non replaceable battery for the Note 5, I may just keep using my Note 3 until I can't get OTA updates anymore. My Note is 1 1/2 years old and still looks like new. No need for replacement, they cost too damn much!!
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    07-14-2015 09:34 PM
  19. natehoy's Avatar
    To those saying "NO WAY!!!!" I'll ask you this: What are you going to go to as an alternative? Yes, you can stay on your Note 3/4 for longer, but after that? [...] you have two options here; rage against the dying of the light, or adapt your usage and move ahead.
    If and when I feel my Note 4 is past its prime (or I just feel like upgrading, which is far more likely), I'll be shopping for a phablet that has what I want. The removable battery was one of many features that attracted me as a first-time Samsung customer to the Note 4. To get that removable battery, I accepted compromises like TouchWiz and slow OS updates. These were uncomfortable compromises. But I accepted them because the Note 4 solved a serious problem I had with my Motorola phones - I got sick of carrying around a stupid battery pack to get a day of usage out of the darned things.

    If the Note 5 battery ends up being sealed, it significantly lowers the chances that I will buy one. If I have to carry around a battery pack within 6 months anyway, I'd rather have a phone with a more recent and less bloated Android version.

    If enough people rage against the dying of the light, then the light might be rekindled eventually. Maybe not by Samsung, but by someone.
    07-15-2015 08:45 AM
  20. Rogue Tomato's Avatar
    I've had my Note 4 since January. I've never changed the SD card. I've never swapped the battery, but I know batteries don't last forever. As long as it's not too expensive to have a battery replaced at a shop, I don't care if it's a sealed battery.
    07-15-2015 09:18 AM
  21. coolbreeze78's Avatar
    Well I landed this AM from a long redeye flight. My Note 4 was at 6%. As we taxied, I swapped the battery for a fresh one, 100% in a matter of seconds.

    I do have a charging pack in my bag, but it was in the overhead. Didn't feel like fishing it out and tethering during the flight. Cumbersome at best.

    Putting the new fresh charged battery in and going about my day is so nice.

    So, SD card gone? Ok. 128gig model I guess. Removable battery gone? Gives me serious pause.
    07-15-2015 09:37 AM
  22. Cool Jeff's Avatar
    To those saying "NO WAY!!!!" I'll ask you this: What are you going to go to as an alternative? Yes, you can stay on your Note 3/4 for longer, but after that?

    The industry is starting to move away from both SD cards and easily swappable batteries. There are several reasons why both are going extinct, but the fact remains that OEMs are still dropping them. Phones that have either (nevermind both) will get fewer and far between.

    The Note 5 will most likely have 128G internal options. Yes, not quite the same as having a potentially unlimited supply of sd cards to swap in and out, but with... maybe something in the range of 115G available. Need more, USB OTG is available if needed. As for the battery thing. Yes, the battery might be fixed, but from everything I've read, we should expect a sizable bump in the battery's size, and between improvements in hardware efficiency, that could lead to a considerable improvement in performance. If you still need more... the market is now filled with Quick Charge capable external battery packs...

    I understand that these might not be an ideal solution for many of you. But you have two options here; rage against the dying of the light, or adapt your usage and move ahead.
    You are wrong!
    The LG G4 still have both.
    HTC took them away with the M7 but they returned the SD slot on M8 and M9
    samsung want to cut price and make slimmer phones which is a huge error because not only specs are lost but some faults are appearing like the board traces under the screen (S6).
    They want to make a copy/paste of iphone too which is NOT a good example, in this logic they will ask: why not take away the BT module as it takes place in the phone?
    Closed shell phones a la S6 and M9 are not a good choice as if you have to fix any hardware problem and your warranty is finished you will pay half the price of a new phone!!
    07-15-2015 10:02 AM
  23. fightcrazy's Avatar
    Have the Note 4, love it. With the new devic es coming out with 128+ gb of built in storage and the ability to still use sd cards with plug in options, along with tons of cloud storage available the ext sd card won't break the deal for me. The battery issue is something they need to address. Put a beast of a battery in the damn phone and quit playing games, then the Note 5 will be another beast of a phone with the most powerful tool built in, The S-Pen. I have additional batteries and charger with my Note 4, love that feature, I would easily forget about that with a beast of a built in battery.
    PS, Will always keep my Note 4. Have the SGS6 with 128gb of storage and love it. As I said, will always keep my Note 4.
    07-15-2015 01:00 PM
  24. cderrick14's Avatar
    Can't say I am bothered by proposed lack of SD card and user replaceable battery. I do understand everyones concerns, but I feel the other features this phone is rumoured to have will still make it a compelling offering.
    07-15-2015 01:15 PM
  25. wrecklass's Avatar
    Having used Nexus phones for the past 5 years I haven't cared about replaceable batteries or SD cards in a long time. Which is why the S6 was a fine replacement for me.

    I'm also on Sprint, so backing up to the cloud doesn't cost me a cent more. Unlimited that is, ya know, unlimited

    I would also point out that forum users are a very specialized and very tiny minority of the overall smartphone user space. Most people may buy an extra battery and never take the time to figure out how to swap them out. I've seen that myself with my friends.

    The trend might circle back around, but I would not bet on it. I'm betting Google and Apple will push the carriers to unlimited plans before either started making or recommending SD cards in their phones.
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    07-15-2015 01:22 PM
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