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  1. Sammuel1973's Avatar
    Samsung could.
    Ha, you are right...Samsung already has with the S6 and S6E. I was thinking of end consumers. ๐Ÿ˜†
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    07-19-2015 11:18 AM
  2. anon8380037's Avatar
    Ha, you are right...Samsung already has with the S6 and S6E. I was thinking of end consumers. ๐Ÿ˜†
    I know.

    I don't think as versatile a device as the Note 4 and 3 will be available again, for technical or marketing reasons or both.

    Worwig depicts another good scenario for an sd card, but it's pretty specialised and still needs backup storage etc.

    If predictions are correct the Note 5 will be sealed, and marketed as a note taking and multi purpose notepad/Chromebook/laptop alternative, with some cute features and fancier pen.
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    07-19-2015 11:59 AM
  3. Gearu's Avatar
    Left of field here. I'm going to call normal/full size SD card slot on the side. Sealed battery. The full size SD would appeal to business users more & batteries charge so quickly since the Note 3, so spares aren't needed imo. Nokia are making a return next year and Samsung need to consider all possible configurations and features (like native 1080p wireless streaming to smart tvs) to maintain market share.
    07-19-2015 01:14 PM
  4. Bruce39's Avatar
    You must be an 'in town' person. Lots of reliable WiFi and cell service.

    I spend a lot of time in the mountains, in state and national parks. There are often fairly large gaps in cell towers here. Verizon does the best job, but not 100%.
    I use my Note 4 for maps. Most of the multiple map programs I carry require data storage on the device for the maps. Online mapping is often useless. I have a 32GB Note 4 and the internal memory is filled. Well, it has about 2GB free. I have a 64GB SD card installed and plan to upgrade to 128GB soon. It is filled to the max with photos and a few videos, and I run a backup program to backup the main storage to the external storage. So basically, I have over 90GB of storage used.
    You can say, "but you don't need blah, or you don't need blah". Sure, I guess I don't even need the Note 4. I WANT to carry that much with me. So I want expandable storage. I do not want Samsung, or anyone else dictating what I do or do not do with my device, I want the flexibility to chose for myself. A card slot does that.
    My wife & I also do a lot of camping & driving in areas of poor/nonexistant cell service. Have Verizon now & AT&T is the only other option. For me battery life is the main concern (can only charge while driving, usually no electricity or cell service in camping areas). I read somewhere that Sandisk (sp?) now sells a bluetooth thumbdrive; that may be a better option than unreliable sd cards for storage. Have not gone to Best Buy in a while but will check out & possibly buy next time I go.
    07-19-2015 01:47 PM
  5. monsieurms's Avatar
    So I want expandable storage. I do not want Samsung, or anyone else dictating what I do or do not do with my device, I want the flexibility to chose for myself. A card slot does that.
    This is the point. Yes. People have different needs with high end devices.
    07-19-2015 02:53 PM
  6. philip42's Avatar
    Why?
    I'm curious as to what is better about an iPhone than any android phone? The note 5 is going to be beautiful and work so well. I just don't understand why so many people are saying I am going to go to the iPhone if the note 5 doesn't have a removable battery or SD card. If they both don't then stay with the note 5. I
    Nah

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    07-19-2015 04:09 PM
  7. bigsmoke79's Avatar
    Why?
    I'm curious as to what is better about an iPhone than any android phone? The note 5 is going to be beautiful and work so well. I just don't understand why so many people are saying I am going to go to the iPhone if the note 5 doesn't have a removable battery or SD card. If they both don't then stay with the note 5. I
    Can't say for certain I will go to a iphone but it's certainly back in the running for my next phone now the 6 plus has arrived, I've listed reasons elsewhere maybe this thread?

    I came from Ios to the note range and havent looked back loved the sd storage options and having 2 battery's!

    I'd consider Apple because they have:

    Resale Value
    Customer Service (2nd to none)
    Regular updates (not 8 months lollipop?)

    Better as hardware and software designed together

    No point buying the imitation (samsung) may as well buy the real thing.

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    07-19-2015 04:55 PM
  8. ReggieTee's Avatar
    Can't say for certain I will go to a iphone but it's certainly back in the running for my next phone now the 6 plus has arrived, I've listed reasons elsewhere maybe this thread?

    I came from Ios to the note range and havent looked back loved the sd storage options and having 2 battery's!

    I'd consider Apple because they have:

    Resale Value
    Customer Service (2nd to none)
    Regular updates (not 8 months lollipop?)

    Better as hardware and software designed together

    No point buying the imitation (samsung) may as well buy the real thing.

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    I agree here. Considering keeping my Note 4 and just getting the new 6s Plus.
    07-19-2015 05:14 PM
  9. RickMG's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by IceCold803 View Post
    No SD Card means I'll be moving back to the iPhone. Guess I'll try the iPhone 6+.

    .... because the iPhone offers SD card support??? lol
    I haven't said this but it makes sense to me. I ONLY stay with the Note because it has an SD card slot. I want my photos on the card, easy to backup to my external hard drive and the cloud. What I hate is the **** poor battery life I get from the Note (as does everyone with a Note that I've asked). I feel the card makes it worth suffering through having to charge multiple times daily. I see folks with iPhones keep their display on when they are finished using it and their batteries last for well over a day or two.

    For that reason I'd lean to the iPhone if Samsung did not continue with the SD Card. Why would I put up with poor battery life without anything else in return? It's not a threat to Samsung, just stating a great selling point for them to continue having this advantage over Apple.
    07-19-2015 05:33 PM
  10. jlost's Avatar
    Nah

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    ?
    07-19-2015 06:44 PM
  11. pmjj's Avatar
    Yes they are deal breakers for me, The Note Should Keep both a removable battery, and an sd card. I added a 128 gb to my note 4 and it was only $79.00 and a Samsung card at that. I have had not problem with it as of yet, had it a little over a month now. I like the Idea that I can put what I want on the card, and save the built in storage for apps and let the phone use the extra for system running. I do not like this idea of moving away from personal storage to cloud, the only winners there is the service providers as we are using data to get to cloud storage. That is not even counting what if you are in an area that does not get good coverage, not just living there but possible business or recreation trip and there is no dependable internet then you are screwed.. I do not want to pay what the companies decide to charge for the larger onboard storage when I can buy it cheaper. Place the money instead into a good set of onboard stereo speakers.. if they (Samsung) continues on this trend then there is not much more to set them apart. I can chose to move on to another choice of hardware provider. I am really just trying to wait for the details from the proverbial horses mouth, before I make a rash decision.
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    07-19-2015 07:06 PM
  12. pmjj's Avatar
    you know the people criticizing about comments of moving on to an Iphone or anything else that does not have an sd card, all we are really saying is why not, especially now if Samsung stays on this spree of removing choice,
    as in removable battery or an sd card expansion. Having those choices is what helped set Samsung apart. Now that they are jumping on the bandwagon of removing those options they are not that different from what is out there today. So why not just try something else. again I am just saying..... I am again trying to wait and hope until it is stated from Samsung.
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    07-19-2015 09:15 PM
  13. jlost's Avatar
    Well good luck with the iPhone I say.
    07-19-2015 09:33 PM
  14. Breeze7c's Avatar
    Apple quality is hit and miss. Battery's die after about 12 months of use. Expanding memory cost a fortune for you have to buy it built in. The software is very good though.
    If Samsung makes the note 5 a high performance galaxy 6s . No changeable battery or SD card then it time for the G4. For me. Battery are cheep and easy to replace and my music file is at 36gb already. Movies chew up the 60gb I have on my note 3.
    I predict that if Samsung does away with both features the sales of the G4 will skyrocket and sadly the note 5 will be a massive failure. Market share will be lost. People will go to apple LG HTC

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    07-19-2015 10:39 PM
  15. DSrn's Avatar
    Absolutely agree. The exact scenario with the phone failure on the trip happened to my daughter on her recent school trip with her Nexus 5 (less than 6 months old). I have always liked to have sd card and removable battery on my phone rather to have so called premium build. What is the point to have a piece of jewellery which is to be replaced after year or so. I don't mind plastic phone because I am keeping it in the case regardless of the phone material. I have Note 3 and I am very happy with it. If Samsung keep making iS and iNote there is always LG with their G phones.
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    07-19-2015 10:55 PM
  16. Jalopiejoe's Avatar
    Absolutely agree. The exact scenario with the phone failure on the trip happened to my daughter on her recent school trip with her Nexus 5 (less than 6 months old). I have always liked to have sd card and removable battery on my phone rather to have so called premium build. What is the point to have a piece of jewelery which is to be replaced after year or so. I don't mind plastic phone because I am keeping it in the case regardless of the phone material. I have Note 3 and I am very happy with it. If Samsung keep making iS and iNote there is always LG with their G phones.
    I agree completely, I believe Samsung is making a big mistake doing away with the replaceable battery!
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    07-19-2015 11:32 PM
  17. Adawg1203's Avatar
    There has been good dialog around the SD card possibly being removed on the Note 5 and it having a sealed battery.

    Just to be clear regarding some comments that stated the Note's main differentiator was the SD slot. To me that's false. What made the Note series different from all other devices on the market were it's display size and S-pen feature. It was not an SD card or removable battery. Every other Android device on the market had card slots and removable batteries.

    Anyone threatening to move to an Apple device from the potential shift by Samsung will do so for reasons other than an SD or sealed battery. Why do I say this? Because you're running to an Apple device that has the same exact drawbacks of the Note 5 device, potentially. Apple has had sealed batteries since the 1st iphone and I have yet to hear their following making noise about degraded battery. Nor do their customers demand expandable storage. To boot, Apple's base continues to surge year over year even with no expanded storage and a sealed battery.

    So, why fault Samsung for changing their strategy when Apple has PROVEN SD cards and removable batteries aren't necessary. And by the way I phones have been the best built devices to date.

    People don't like change, I get that. Perhaps change is the only way for Samsung to be more viable in the smartphone marketplace, seeing Apple still takes their lunch.
    07-20-2015 05:59 AM
  18. Joshua Luther2's Avatar
    I have mixed feelings on whether this is a good move by Samsung or not. Only time will tell.

    Certainly geeks like ourselves are the minority of smartphone users. Power users who love to tinker with their phones to try and squeeze out as much performance and battery life as possible. I get that.

    Removing these features is definitely a risk and Samsung had received mixed reviews in removing them from the S6. I do think that the majority of general Note users won't be deterred from buying the Note 5. Even if I don't agree with it completely.

    I think it's better for the line between the two be more pronounced. I personally don't like the fact that Samsung is becoming more and more like Apple when it comes to their smartphones. Which is why companies other than the big names are starting to become more successful. They're not trying to just be like everyone else. It's what makes Android so cool.
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    07-20-2015 06:18 AM
  19. diego.roscetti's Avatar
    You must be an 'in town' person. Lots of reliable WiFi and cell service.

    I spend a lot of time in the mountains, in state and national parks. There are often fairly large gaps in cell towers here. Verizon does the best job, but not 100%.
    I use my Note 4 for maps. Most of the multiple map programs I carry require data storage on the device for the maps. Online mapping is often useless. I have a 32GB Note 4 and the internal memory is filled. Well, it has about 2GB free. I have a 64GB SD card installed and plan to upgrade to 128GB soon. It is filled to the max with photos and a few videos, and I run a backup program to backup the main storage to the external storage. So basically, I have over 90GB of storage used.
    You can say, "but you don't need blah, or you don't need blah". Sure, I guess I don't even need the Note 4. I WANT to carry that much with me. So I want expandable storage. I do not want Samsung, or anyone else dictating what I do or do not do with my device, I want the flexibility to chose for myself. A card slot does that.
    You are correct. I am an "in town" person. I always have reliable WiFi and network coverage.

    Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't really think of this option as it doesn't really affect me.

    I guess we will see what they come out with and, as always, it comes down to each individual person using what phone and OS best suits their needs.
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    07-20-2015 06:26 AM
  20. monsieurms's Avatar
    There has been good dialog around the SD card possibly being removed on the Note 5 and it having a sealed battery.

    Just to be clear regarding some comments that stated the Note's main differentiator was the SD slot. To me that's false.....
    People don't like change, I get that. Perhaps change is the only way for Samsung to be more viable in the smartphone marketplace, seeing Apple still takes their lunch.
    It's not so clear that Apple takes their lunch. Apple has bled market share to Android in general over the last few years, particularly internationally, finally being forced to give up its stated principles and release a big screen phone. That's because of competition from Android on an issue where Samsung was clearly the leader. Second, it's not a question of not liking change. It's a question of people losing things that they find useful, if not essential. There have been many practical examples given in this thread. Yep, Apple users manage to survive. Yet, somehow when Apple released a big screen phone, they also flocked to it. Guess they needed it after all and just didn't know it?

    As for what differentiates 6+ from Note 5--that is an answer that will depend on the individual. There used to be 3 deal-breaker differentiators for ME--screen sizes, sd cards and batteries--now there are two, but maybe not for long. Others may have a different answer. I like the s-pen, but frankly NOT a deal breaker. I'm sure others feel differently and might continue to choose Samsung for it. Needs and choices differ.
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    07-20-2015 07:24 AM
  21. DDRundo's Avatar
    Samsung is using the new UFS 2.0 standard for storage and I believe it is not compatible with an SD card. I think they will also seal in the battery and make the back of the device non-removable. The only exception to these two issues for a Note user are: 1) Make the base storage amount 64GB. 2) Make the battery large, like 3600 mAh or larger. That way, most people will find that it still has a great amount of storage and battery life. You're also paying a premium price for this device, so make it well worth it Sammy
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    07-20-2015 07:24 AM
  22. BoB16731's Avatar
    im just about banking the note 5 will drop the

    removeable battery and the SDcard the note line has always followed suit with the galaxy s line

    galaxy s6 lost it so if they continue the trend its gone on the note 5 too and everything i have seen/read is leaning that way
    07-20-2015 07:43 AM
  23. bigbuc's Avatar
    If the note 5 has 128GB or better internal storage it might save it. My notes (1,2 &3) have all had SD cards, but 64 GB was (is) my largest.
    Then there's the price.
    I'm surmising that the specs are set in stone now, so our suggestions are pointless now.
    Why you'd move to an iOS device without a SD card and replaceable battery is beyond me when there are other Android devices out there.
    Samsung may well be making a big mistake, Selling us fewer features for more money.
    IPhone 6plus 5.5" screen? There are plenty of android devices with this smaller screen.
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    07-20-2015 07:46 AM
  24. anon8380037's Avatar
    1.
    Have many here had sd failures in the past where it has affected the performance and battery drain of the device?
    Do you think current higher end cards from SanDisk and Samsung are more stable and long-term reliable?

    Do you back those cards up (excluding movies, which I assume you can afford to lose - you may have purchased online or copied from another device)

    2
    .How much space do some people need for documents? If you want to be able to hot swap documents to another pc or device you may need to keep a full sd adapter or usb reader - (how many laptops / macs / desktops have micro sd cards? I don't know) -
    so another item to lose or forget (they can fit more easily in a wallet/purse but can be lost).

    If there will not be an sd slot, how much more difficult to carry one of these, you will have seen, and play movies etc from it (no cable):

    http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobi...s/dualdrive30/



    3. For movies in the wild, do you view them on a 5.7" screen in your hand and bend your neck down for 2 hours, or mount the screen precariously somewhere?
    In hotels or away do you connect or stream to a tv?

    I will take an sd slot over not having one, but surely it's not as critical as some believe.

    A $100 - 120 premium (on launch) for a 128gb over a 32gb Note 5 would seem a fair trade currently.

    (but it will likely cost more of course - ^ BigBloc stole my thunder above )
    07-20-2015 08:54 AM
  25. jefmoody's Avatar
    DITTO...You nailed my situation exactly (Note 3)!
    The phone was in a case before I walked out of the store with it, I don't need to charge because I have a fully charged Battery ready to swap. I also swap the SD into the new phone before I sell the old one!
    07-20-2015 11:00 AM
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