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  1. rushmore's Avatar
    I'm sure everyone who said I'm not getting it because..... will.

    via the Android Central App With S6 Edge

    Nope. Indubitably this would not be the case. Tennis had 7 Days in Hell and Samsung would have a Fall and Winter in Sales Hell. Samsung would likely lose 15% of sales in relation to current Note owners who use the storage and rely on the battery design. That is millions of units and over a billion in lost revenue. Bank on it- IF the Note 5 is a giant S6 with pen.

    Hmmmm. Which is better? A Note 5 128gb with same display design, or a Note 4 with 128gb card that has 32gb more total storage and at the very least $100 less total cost? With the bonus of a removable battery. Samsung made the a great device with the Note 4 that still is worthy if launched today. I expect this to be a bad time for Samsung, but expect Samsung to distort with sell-in numbers like they tried and got away with (for a few months) with the S6. Analysts nailed Samsung on that. Will be interesting how this all pans out

    The Note series is not a fashion statement. A giant S6 is a bad idea and will sway virtually no iPhone fans, but would push more into the iPhone 6 Plus. The more Samsung acts like Apple, the more share they lose. Lack of functional differentiation is a bad move. The N5 needs to at least have the sd slot to lessen the hit.

    Added: Indubitably!
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    07-28-2015 07:58 AM
  2. tadpoles's Avatar
    I think Samsung is willing to see how a drastically changed Note will do in the market. If sales are poor and their research indicates the big changes they made are the reason, they'll go back to removable storage and batteries next year.


    Sent from the Elegance
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    07-28-2015 08:05 AM
  3. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Removing the SD Card and having a non-removable slot might be the new thing now for future phones. The One Plus 2 also removed the Micro SD card slot (I was surprised) and also doesn't have a removable battery

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S6!
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    07-28-2015 08:16 AM
  4. mclarryjr's Avatar
    From what I've seen so far I'm planning on making my first Note purchase. I'm a minority here because the lack of removable battery and no SD card don't really bother me as I would prefer a more premium device build (Just maybe not glass back). I know I can't be alone feeling this way and wonder to masses out there how many first time buyers will be compared to the current Note owners that won't purchase #5? I'm guessing that sales will be down a little due to 6 Plus and not because the battery and SD card.
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    07-28-2015 09:35 AM
  5. anon8380037's Avatar
    A 128 gb Note 5 would be better in my opinion than a 32gb device plus a large capacity sd card (lets call it a hypothetical 96gb card to level the field for pedantics), *costs being equal.

    Sure you can't expand further, in theory, but there are enough neat small drives around for when you positively, absolutely, on pain of death have to carry (or be able to load) every ounce of global data on your travels.

    Sounds like I am making fun of mega sd card diehards, I am not ( < well it ended up that way as I wrote )

    but - point being:
    cards do corrupt, fail and drag the system down, whether this has never happened to you or not.
    07-28-2015 09:38 AM
  6. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    cards do corrupt, fail and drag the system down, whether this has never happened to you or not.
    Exactly, which is why I think phone manufacturers are starting to do away with Micro SD cards and use SSDs or something similar inside their devices
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    07-28-2015 09:49 AM
  7. anon8380037's Avatar
    On the other hand - Wow, a Moto X with a 5.7“ Qhd screen and sd slot, SD 808, sealed battery but definitely an option for me at USD 399.

    http://www.androidcentral.com/motoro...s-moto-x-style
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    07-28-2015 09:53 AM
  8. rushmore's Avatar
    What we need is a 256gb internal And a do it yourself kidney remover to sell organs to pay for it
    07-28-2015 09:53 AM
  9. rushmore's Avatar
    On the other hand - Wow, a Moto X with a 5.7“ Qhd screen and sd slot, SD 808, sealed battery but definitely an option for me at USD 399.

    Motorola announces the Moto X Style; available in September for $399 | Android Central
    Agreed. The 808 is a step up from the already good 805 in the Note 4..... I wonder how the pixel arrays are designed on this, since one of the reasons for the larger screen door on the Gear VR and other VR sets with the Note and Galaxy devices is the pentile design that results in more of the pixel area standing out in a bad way with VR.

    64GB with sd slot..... Why do I think most carriers will not carry it....? Verizon would be a big heck no.
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    07-28-2015 09:58 AM
  10. anon8380037's Avatar
    Agreed. The 808 is a step up from the already good 805 in the Note 4..... I wonder how the pixel arrays are designed on this, since one of the reasons for the larger screen door on the Gear VR and other VR sets with the Note and Galaxy devices is the pentile design that results in more of the pixel area standing out in a bad way with VR.

    64GB with sd slot..... Why do I think most carriers will not carry it....? Verizon would be a big heck no.
    I was forgetting no Super Amoled, but maybe another amoled like the X 2014 I never saw but had mild colour issues apparently.

    Still good enough for the likes of me anyhow.

    I would prefer Samsung to have brought out this spec at this price, but no chance.

    VR doesn't concern me, but I learned about pentile screens from tv's.

    Don't know why Verizon wouldn't do it, but I am in the UK.
    07-28-2015 10:13 AM
  11. anon8380037's Avatar
    TFT on the Moto X 2015 but I may still be getting the bus over there.

    http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-x-style-specs

    They owe me for living with a 4.5" Moto G for 2 months.

    I would take a removable battery over an sd card but I am not too worried.
    07-28-2015 10:25 AM
  12. rushmore's Avatar
    I was forgetting no Super Amoled, but maybe another amoled like the X 2014 I never saw but had mild colour issues apparently.

    Still good enough for the likes of me anyhow.

    I would prefer Samsung to have brought out this spec at this price, but no chance.

    VR doesn't concern me, but I learned about pentile screens from tv's.

    Don't know why Verizon wouldn't do it, but I am in the UK.
    Your beer is better and so is your phone selection
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    07-28-2015 10:26 AM
  13. tadpoles's Avatar
    From what I've seen so far I'm planning on making my first Note purchase. I'm a minority here because the lack of removable battery and no SD card don't really bother me as I would prefer a more premium device build (Just maybe not glass back). I know I can't be alone feeling this way and wonder to masses out there how many first time buyers will be compared to the current Note owners that won't purchase #5? I'm guessing that sales will be down a little due to 6 Plus and not because the battery and SD card.
    The reality for me is that I don't generally keep devices long enough for their batteries to degrade. It was just peace of mind know that if the battery every did wear out a replacement was only a day away (via Amazon overnight). Removable storage? I guess I'll just have to pay more up front. These things have never been an issue on my iPhones so it's just the idea of losing something I had without an adequate conciliatory replacement. A glass back to supposedly convey higher build quality doesn't do it for me. The Note 4's design is beautiful to me and didn't need replacing, at all, in my book.


    Sent from the Elegance
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    07-28-2015 10:26 AM
  14. rushmore's Avatar
    Contrary to the opinions expressed herein for me the decision is crystal clear and not negotiable.

    No removable battery OR no SD-card-slot means: SAMSUNG you can keep that crap to yourself!

    Not sure, if everyone is aware of the fact, that spying agencies like NSA and other sinister organizations can secretly turn a switched-off Android phone on again and turn it against you to spy on its owner via microphone and camera. In that case, when you want to avoid traceability at all circumstances, the only remedy would be to temporarily remove the battery. And, trust me, I am not THAT STUPID to even pay for a spying-device myself, that can be turned against me later on!

    Also I have a spare battery ready, should the first one run empty, let alone when it degrades after some time and doesn't make it through the day any more. Quick charging is no option as it is technically immature and won't give you IMMEDIATE operability either.

    Also I need that card-slot as I NEVER store personal data in the "cloud of data-fraud" and do not even place them in the main memory. I do not like the idea of having to incinerate my old phone when switching to a new one, I'd rather prefer to simply delete and reset the main memory and removing all my data on SD-card before passing my old phone on to someone else.
    I think the key is folks should appreciate there are different wants and needs and so should businesses that make products. The issue here though is Samsung has an Apple wannabe fetish that merely plays into Apple's hands and for that- Apple applauds. Whatever the case, I will not force my perspective on others as some try to do in forums and the media when being incredulous on why we need sd slots, batteries etc.

    IMO from an aggregate standpoint, Apple fulfills one group and Samsung and other OEs did the others. If the Moto X is offered for Verizon's network and I can get the 64GB version, I think that could be my next purchase since I believe in supporting companies who are not Apple clones. We already have an Apple and they do quite well
    07-28-2015 11:50 AM
  15. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Contrary to the opinions expressed herein for me the decision is crystal clear and not negotiable.

    No removable battery OR no SD-card-slot means: SAMSUNG you can keep that crap to yourself!

    Not sure, if everyone is aware of the fact, that spying agencies like NSA and other sinister organizations can secretly turn a switched-off Android phone on again and turn it against you to spy on its owner via microphone and camera. In that case, when you want to avoid traceability at all circumstances, the only remedy would be to temporarily remove the battery. And, trust me, I am not THAT STUPID to even pay for a spying-device myself, that can be turned against me later on!
    You do know that you are already being "spied" on by your carriers by using their networks. And what are you gonna remove your battery every 5 minutes just to not get spied on?
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    07-28-2015 12:39 PM
  16. anon8380037's Avatar
    Contrary to the opinions expressed herein for me the decision is crystal clear and not negotiable.

    No removable battery OR no SD-card-slot means: SAMSUNG you can keep that crap to yourself!

    Not sure, if everyone is aware of the fact, that spying agencies like NSA and other sinister organizations can secretly turn a switched-off Android phone on again and turn it against you to spy on its owner via microphone and camera. In that case, when you want to avoid traceability at all circumstances, the only remedy would be to temporarily remove the battery. And, trust me, I am not THAT STUPID to even pay for a spying-device myself, that can be turned against me later on!

    Also I have a spare battery ready, should the first one run empty, let alone when it degrades after some time and doesn't make it through the day any more. Quick charging is no option as it is technically immature and won't give you IMMEDIATE operability either.

    Also I need that card-slot as I NEVER store personal data in the "cloud of data-fraud" and do not even place them in the main memory. I do not like the idea of having to incinerate my old phone when switching to a new one, I'd rather prefer to simply delete and reset the main memory and removing all my data on SD-card before passing my old phone on to someone else.
    May I just say, you do look particularly fetching in that dress today.

    A little more leg waxing wouldn't go amiss, but we all like the colour combination here at the NSA.

    Thanks for brightening a dull day!

    We are people too.
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    07-28-2015 01:05 PM
  17. beh's Avatar
    Yes!
    Samsung is the innovation leader in mobile. The future is being birthed by Samsung and the future is extremely fast internal memory with everything stored in the cloud. Like the cassette tape, VHS and Beta tapes, CD's external memory cards are soon the thing of museum displays only.
    Embrace the Chaos!
    07-28-2015 01:11 PM
  18. rushmore's Avatar
    Yes!
    Samsung is the innovation leader in mobile. The future is being birthed by Samsung and the future is extremely fast internal memory with everything stored in the cloud. Like the cassette tape, VHS and Beta tapes, CD's external memory cards are soon the thing of museum displays only.
    Embrace the Chaos!
    Meh. Data caps alone kill the premise. Paying to access my own content on the data mining cloud is not my idea of even Charlie Sheen type winning

    BTW, I know you are being sarcastic. That, or a Samsung marketer
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    07-28-2015 02:46 PM
  19. anon8380037's Avatar
    From what I've seen so far I'm planning on making my first Note purchase. I'm a minority here because the lack of removable battery and no SD card don't really bother me as I would prefer a more premium device build (Just maybe not glass back). I know I can't be alone feeling this way and wonder to masses out there how many first time buyers will be compared to the current Note owners that won't purchase #5? I'm guessing that sales will be down a little due to 6 Plus and not because the battery and SD card.
    That's a good point of course.
    There will be many first time Note buyers who have different priorities and expectations.

    Without knowing the full Note 5 details, I expect people will be impressed with whatever they bring out.

    Many will tire of the iPhone possibly (works both ways, sure), but want a premium look, feel and screen if they are going Android, with plenty of WoW features.

    These newbies may be the priority target for Samsung.
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    07-28-2015 03:08 PM
  20. Preach2k's Avatar
    I can go without the recoverable back and Battery. No Sim Card is an deal breaker for me. I use my Gnote4 for work. I have One 128GB Micro SD full of Movies. I have another full of Documents for work. Had an 3rd for music, but now I use Google Music.
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    07-28-2015 03:11 PM
  21. Rukbat's Avatar
    Assuming that the phone had something I wanted (I wouldn't buy it just because it's the newest Note), either no removable battery or no SD card slot would be a deal breaker for me.
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    07-28-2015 04:27 PM
  22. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    I can go without the recoverable back and Battery. No Sim Card is an deal breaker for me. I use my Gnote4 for work. I have One 128GB Micro SD full of Movies. I have another full of Documents for work. Had an 3rd for music, but now I use Google Music.
    Yeah in your case I understand why you would need a MicroSD card with the movies and all that.
    Why don't you just get a tablet? Its better to watch movies and work on documents on than a phone
    07-28-2015 05:23 PM
  23. Almeuit's Avatar
    Yeah in your case I understand why you would need a MicroSD card with the movies and all that.
    Why don't you just get a tablet? Its better to watch movies and work on documents on than a phone
    Might not be able to use a tablet -- different circumstances. My work allows me to stream video on my phone but if I propped up a big tablet I believe they would draw the line.
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    07-28-2015 05:31 PM
  24. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Might not be able to use a tablet -- different circumstances. My work allows me to stream video on my phone but if I propped up a big tablet I believe they would draw the line.
    Well not if you get an 7 or 8 inch tablet...Its not too big but bigger than the Note series
    I could see this being a problem with a 10 inch tablet
    07-28-2015 05:33 PM
  25. bigbuc's Avatar
    I agree. I think Samsung has lost market share to Apple because Apple finally released a bigger phone, not because Samsung lacked metal/glass construction in their premium phones. The S2, S3, and S4 were mega hits, plastic phones. Conversely, had Apple continue to make small phones, they would lose market share to Samsung and other android phone makers. Smartphones are no longer just for calls and emails, bigger display screens allow us to do much more. Apple finally acknowledges the trend now.
    Yeah. The metal vs plastic is silly. I put a case and tempered glass screen protector on my phone as soon as I buy it. I could care less what the body looks like because it's all covered for life.
    07-28-2015 05:46 PM
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