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  1. rushmore's Avatar
    Wait, didn't I mention that the memory controller for UFS 2.0 doesn't work with SD cards?
    Respectfully another point pushed by some on forums and Samsung marketing- taking the relatively minor point of "slowing down", to "does not work" and what controller is used for it. There is a small technical bottleneck for sd cards and flash storage with 2.0, but works and only a tiny itty bitty fraction of a second slower bottleneck (for slower cards) for content on the card to initiate access (catch is cores of apps are not on the card anyway). All moot, since there are other cache, wait state and Android related issues that negate and override any perceived slow down due to just that. Quick summary: It is an excuse not to add micro sd and test out an Apple wannabe storage model that failed miserably to the point of earlier than normal planned price drops on the S6 and Edge. Samsung sales were bad and will be even worse once the bogus sell-in to retail numbers are netted out of actual sell-though to consumer numbers.

    Samsung wanted the usual attach rates of micro sd sales built in to the S6 and Edge. Why let consumers buy lower cost card options from other companies when they could try out the Apple model? It has not worked as they expected and played even further into Apple's hands.

    Samsung might be full of BS, but they did make a great device with the Note 4
    07-30-2015 11:34 AM
  2. robnelle's Avatar
    Without MicroSD support and removable battery, I will not be buying the Galaxy Nope 5 ™. I will wait for it to launch and then buy a newly discounted Note 4 to replace my Note 3. I'll then take my Note 3 and re-purpose it for some other pet project after I buy a new battery for it.
    monsieurms likes this.
    07-30-2015 12:15 PM
  3. WDZ's Avatar
    To be honest. I will never ever buy a Samsung phone again.
    I bought a Note2 in december 2012. After 3 months the phone died because of the SDS.
    I sent it for repair and when i got it back the touchscreen starts acting weird.
    Again i sent it to the Samsung repair shop and till date i have been going back and forth with Samsung CCC.

    Spend more than a $1,000 bucks on that crap.
    I just gave up last week and promise myself; never ever a Samsung product.
    07-30-2015 01:19 PM
  4. A2theC's Avatar
    Yes, no sd card slot means they are using the new UFS 2.0 memory, so the phone will be way faster just like the S6 is! You people who cling to your cheapo sd cards are crazy, I've lost so much data on 64gb sd cards because of those cheap things, sandisk ultra btw. I'm on board for these better memory chips, I only use the extra space for storing app backups/ROMs and music/recordings and pictures/video...but since google has upped their unlimited photo backup I'm just deleting everything after its backed up (local backup with seagate app also).
    07-30-2015 04:17 PM
  5. rushmore's Avatar
    Yes, no sd card slot means they are using the new UFS 2.0 memory, so the phone will be way faster just like the S6 is! You people who cling to your cheapo sd cards are crazy, I've lost so much data on 64gb sd cards because of those cheap things, sandisk ultra btw. I'm on board for these better memory chips, I only use the extra space for storing app backups/ROMs and music/recordings and pictures/video...but since google has upped their unlimited photo backup I'm just deleting everything after its backed up (local backup with seagate app also).
    Can't help but notice comments like this, but people that want sd cards are not saying people that don't want them are crazy. It is like the folks that could care less about them are imposing their standard on others. Tyranny!

    Added: I have owned the N-Gage (don't laugh), Tmo Dash, G1, Incredible, Droid 1, Droid 2, Droid 3, Razr, S3, S4 and now the Note 4 and have never lost data due to card corruption and fill them suckers up! I though HAVE had a corrupted internal error that hosed my data on the S4- where I had my photos and lost them. My experience so far has been the antithesis of your perspective and will not keep my media in the internal data- especially photos.

    Sd cards rock, since all you do is take it from one device to another and no 116GB transfer BS using sucky MTP transfer protocol. Oh, wait- there will not be enough storage to transfer all of the 128GB card since less total storage. Ruh roh!

    I do not find people crazy not liking cards, so would expect similar on the other side of it. If anything, the practicality of sd cards, the extra storage and less cost puts card fans on the higher ground of total cost analysis. Real winning
    monsieurms, KJ78 and shady909 like this.
    07-30-2015 11:15 PM
  6. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Yes, no sd card slot means they are using the new UFS 2.0 memory, so the phone will be way faster just like the S6 is! You people who cling to your cheapo sd cards are crazy, I've lost so much data on 64gb sd cards because of those cheap things, sandisk ultra btw. I'm on board for these better memory chips, I only use the extra space for storing app backups/ROMs and music/recordings and pictures/video...but since google has upped their unlimited photo backup I'm just deleting everything after its backed up (local backup with seagate app also).
    eMMC 5.1 seems pretty quick on my G4...
    07-31-2015 12:15 AM
  7. pcguys's Avatar
    I'm on AT&T. As far as I can tell, coming from a Note 3, the only phone's I'd consider are:

    • LG G4
    • Galaxy Note 4



    Did I miss any worthy of consideration (coming from this Note 3 snob?)

    Any phones likely to appear in the next few months which would likely have have removable batteries?

    Do you think Samsung will release a Note 5 Nuclear (for power-users who insist on removable batteries)?

    I'll be shocked and devastated if Samsung discards me as a long-term/loyal customer on the alter of iphone design envy.

    BTW: don't batteries generally last 2 years? Who wants a dying battery stuck in a phone? This is such a dumb trend!

    -Mike
    07-31-2015 01:04 PM
  8. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Most 2015 flagship phones have non-removable batteries I think. Might be the new trend because all companies care about is money
    Just get a Note 4 and be happy...I can guarantee you the Note 5 will not have a removable battery
    Its also not expensive to replace the battery of the Galaxy S6 or Note 5, about $30-$45
    07-31-2015 01:59 PM
  9. pcguys's Avatar
    Thanks, but I refuse to be a wall-hugger (especially after samsung made them look like idiots just last year!)
    07-31-2015 02:14 PM
  10. KJ78's Avatar
    No.
    08-01-2015 02:40 AM
  11. Mihai HG's Avatar
    Nooope!
    08-01-2015 02:51 AM
  12. monsieurms's Avatar
    Well updates depend on when the carriers release them, not Samsung
    You know, I said the same thing in a recent thread, but in hunting around on the Stagefright hack issue on T-Mobile forums, it appears at least a bit more complicated (at least at times). The first fix has to come from Google of course. Then, however, the manufacturers like Samsung have to vet it for their own hardware--especially, I would think, Samsung which tends not to have a "plain vanilla" Android experience. THEN and only then, said T-mobile, will they get the patch to apply and push. At least according to TMO and in this instance, they are simply the last in the chain, waiting on everyone else.

    It's no wonder that patches are so slow.
    08-01-2015 07:52 AM
  13. AqLynch75's Avatar
    You are incorrect. You can simply move the apps to SD after you install them. At least I know you can do this with the new Lolipop update. And if you look at Android M coming out. They said that you will be able to install directly to your micro sd card. Its in the official Android M developers builds..
    08-01-2015 08:46 AM
  14. rushmore's Avatar
    You are incorrect. You can simply move the apps to SD after you install them. At least I know you can do this with the new Lolipop update. And if you look at Android M coming out. They said that you will be able to install directly to your micro sd card. Its in the official Android M developers builds..

    Samsung says we don't need no stinkin' sd cards! We'll use the 24GB in the phone and LIKE it! Or, pay even higher exuberant iPhone model like prices for more storage that is more expensive and still less total storage. Samsung ain't Apple and if they did not learn from the S6, they are about to learn the hard way by consumers in force this time. Samsung is about to lose a big chunk of their core install base to the G4 and Moto X Pure/Style. Some will move to the iPhone Plus since frankly, Apple is much better at being Apple than Samsung ever will be. Others will just stay with what they have now.

    This will probably get real nasty, but Samsung will lay the usual BS with sell in and inventory load-in retail channel numbers. Those numbers are more fake than autotune and will buy them two months of BS- tops this time if that.

    I know a lot of people with Notes, both personal and professional. None have interest in upgrading to the Note 5 without sd slot (a few the battery reason too) and the ones that do no use the pen are considering other options including the iPhone Plus (ironic). Most have either 64GB or 128GB cards and do not want to spend more money when they already have a card to move their media to a new device.

    I wonder if Samsung knows it will be bad, but many months too late to make any change and stay in front of the Apple launch? Now they have Moto X stealing some August/September thunder thanks to the media buying in to the Moto X product and concept of delivery.

    If the Moto X Pure 64GB really is $500 as reported, I will probably buy that and use my Note 4 as a back up and mainly for Gear VR.
    08-01-2015 10:27 AM
  15. calicocat2010's Avatar
    You are incorrect. You can simply move the apps to SD after you install them. At least I know you can do this with the new Lolipop update. And if you look at Android M coming out. They said that you will be able to install directly to your micro sd card. Its in the official Android M developers builds..
    IF that is true, then I bet a few users will NOT be happy. I've read posts where people want to install APPS ON their SD card. BUT, if they are doing away with NO SD Card slot on the next phone then bye bye .
    08-01-2015 10:39 AM
  16. Preach2k's Avatar
    Looks like there is a MicroSD card on the Volume side in this picture. It is clear. Look at it Blown up.







    Sent from my GNOTE4 using Tapatalk
    08-01-2015 11:46 AM
  17. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Looks like there is a MicroSD card on the Volume side in this picture. It is clear. Look at it Blown up.


    https://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08...36c4c2db55.jpg


    https://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08...56bcd4d1d2.jpg

    Sent from my GNOTE4 using Tapatalk
    Semi-Offical specs leaked today from EVLEAKS...no MicroSD slot
    08-01-2015 12:12 PM
  18. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    You know, I said the same thing in a recent thread, but in hunting around on the Stagefright hack issue on T-Mobile forums, it appears at least a bit more complicated (at least at times). The first fix has to come from Google of course. Then, however, the manufacturers like Samsung have to vet it for their own hardware--especially, I would think, Samsung which tends not to have a "plain vanilla" Android experience. THEN and only then, said T-mobile, will they get the patch to apply and push. At least according to TMO and in this instance, they are simply the last in the chain, waiting on everyone else.

    It's no wonder that patches are so slow.
    Well, I would think Samsung, once done with their tweaks, would release it to all carriers at the same time, since they only tweak it for Touchwiz. Its the carriers that then do all the bloatware and other stuff. If the other carriers have released theirs already, you know one carrier is being slower than the others *cough* AT&T *cough*
    monsieurms likes this.
    08-01-2015 12:14 PM
  19. Preach2k's Avatar
    Semi-Offical specs leaked today from EVLEAKS...no MicroSD slot
    I am going from the picture above. Sim card is on the top. Why would you need one on the side also. Post the link for Evleaks from today.

    Sent from my GNOTE4 using Tapatalk
    08-01-2015 12:20 PM
  20. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    I am going from the picture above. Sim card is on the top. Why would you need one on the side also. Post the link for Evleaks from today.

    Sent from my GNOTE4 using Tapatalk
    Galaxy Note 5 (SM-N920) tech specs and S6 edge + leaked - SamMobile
    anon8380037 likes this.
    08-01-2015 12:22 PM
  21. rushmore's Avatar
    The Amazon case render had a pin slot on top and under the power button and with the exception of the power button area that has yet to show in any other "leak", the other images of the render appear to be correct. I have not seen a card design though that has slots perpendicular to each other and would be an odd design for a chipset. Especially if the N5 has the same chip as the S6. Probably another bunk render. Probably.
    Preach2k likes this.
    08-01-2015 01:39 PM
  22. anon8380037's Avatar
    A week from Thursday!

    Will we have any concrete information before then?

    Can't help feeling a little excited to find out about what I most probably won't now be buying.
    08-01-2015 01:51 PM
  23. AqLynch75's Avatar
    Hello
    08-01-2015 05:41 PM
  24. Adawg1203's Avatar
    Samsung says we don't need no stinkin' sd cards! We'll use the 24GB in the phone and LIKE it! Or, pay even higher exuberant iPhone model like prices for more storage that is more expensive and still less total storage. Samsung ain't Apple and if they did not learn from the S6, they are about to learn the hard way by consumers in force this time. Samsung is about to lose a big chunk of their core install base to the G4 and Moto X Pure/Style. Some will move to the iPhone Plus since frankly, Apple is much better at being Apple than Samsung ever will be. Others will just stay with what they have now.

    This will probably get real nasty, but Samsung will lay the usual BS with sell in and inventory load-in retail channel numbers. Those numbers are more fake than autotune and will buy them two months of BS- tops this time if that.

    I know a lot of people with Notes, both personal and professional. None have interest in upgrading to the Note 5 without sd slot (a few the battery reason too) and the ones that do no use the pen are considering other options including the iPhone Plus (ironic). Most have either 64GB or 128GB cards and do not want to spend more money when they already have a card to move their media to a new device.

    I wonder if Samsung knows it will be bad, but many months too late to make any change and stay in front of the Apple launch? Now they have Moto X stealing some August/September thunder thanks to the media buying in to the Moto X product and concept of delivery.

    If the Moto X Pure 64GB really is $500 as reported, I will probably buy that and use my Note 4 as a back up and mainly for Gear VR.
    And how can you say samsung will lose a big chunk of their core base to the G4 and Moto X. First of all, combined, those two companies don't even sell half the devices Samsung does. By Samsung scrapping SD cards, that is them trying to be like Apple??? Seriously??? Was LG trying to be like Apple when they produced the G2? Or when HTC launched the M7? What about Android makers today offering devices without SD slots. Are they trying to be like Apple? Your argument is senseless in that regard. No mention from you about Apple now making larger display devices. Who are they copying?

    Samsung will offer a selection of devices with different storage capacities like they do today. Pick the size that works for you. Common logic says if you go for 64GB over 32gb then you will pay more. So again I don't see your point of that being Iphone like.

    Lastly samsung isn't forcing anyone to switch to the N5 from a previous note device. If you own a Note with an SD slot and find it to be functional then keep it. Who says you have to switch. So the folks you speak with that aren't going for a Note5, that's ok. Guess what, there are many folks who didn't go for the N2, N3 & N4 either, so why expect anything different with the N5???

    Unlike Apple and their IOS devices, android/Google offers its users a selection of devices from many different manufacturers. If you don't like Samsung then try something else like LG,HTC, MOTO, Sony or whomever. With IOS you only have the iphone.

    Regardless of what people think of the changes Samsung is making, the fact is they will still sell millions and stay at the top of the Android market. For how long is anyone's guess.
    08-01-2015 08:30 PM
  25. harun.aslan's Avatar
    no

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    08-02-2015 03:28 AM
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